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      Rule number 1 of marketing: You're not trying to change anybody's mind. The undecided are the target. If I thought the future of mankind lay in the critical capabilities of a few skeptics, I would have given up long ago. Luckily you're not the person I'm trying to convince. You made up your mind, you will learn based on your own experience at this point.

      People don't typically start off believing in aliens by default. Some may be swayed by the youtube videos circulating to begin independent research but that's where the rubber hits the road, not in the videos themselves and not in the irrelevant skeptics that find explanations for them. As of now, there is so much evidence of ET contact that to deny them at this point is a display of ignorance, not skepticism.

      And Spartiate: If these were computer generated, that's a pretty intricate hoax.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=QDIF-ZwJbF0
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=XtiylJCma9c
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=wQmut0XtD3s
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw8b8pBW5Sc
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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      Rule number 1 of marketing: You're not trying to change anybody's mind. The undecided are the target. If I thought the future of mankind lay in the critical capabilities of a few skeptics, I would have given up long ago. Luckily you're not the person I'm trying to convince. You made up your mind, you will learn based on your own experience at this point.

      People don't typically start off believing in aliens by default. Some may be swayed by the youtube videos circulating to begin independent research but that's where the rubber hits the road, not in the videos themselves and not in the irrelevant skeptics that find explanations for them. As of now, there is so much evidence of ET contact that to deny them at this point is a display of ignorance, not skepticism.
      You just fell way over in to bat shit crazy territory. You're saying people aren't skeptics, they're just willfully ignorant. When there's thousands of fake videos and photos out there, why would one not be skeptical of the next fake video or photo or whatever?
      You're only willfully ignorant if you instantly believe it.

      I have not seen ANY evidence of ET contact. I have never spoken to, seen or heard one. I've never even smelled one.

      I'm pretty sure we'd know about it. Unless they decided to hide out in the jungle with ancient tribes or something.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      And Spartiate: If these were computer generated, that's a pretty intricate hoax.
      Well... I don't want to be the one to define "intricate" but is it that hard to convince 6 or 7 people on a street corner (especially friends or people you know) to look at the sky for 2 minutes and then add some CG glowing spherical things...?
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      Quote Originally Posted by tommo View Post
      You just fell way over in to bat shit crazy territory. You're saying people aren't skeptics, they're just willfully ignorant. When there's thousands of fake videos and photos out there, why would one not be skeptical of the next fake video or photo or whatever?
      You're only willfully ignorant if you instantly believe it.

      I have not seen ANY evidence of ET contact. I have never spoken to, seen or heard one. I've never even smelled one.

      I'm pretty sure we'd know about it. Unless they decided to hide out in the jungle with ancient tribes or something.
      Then go do some research and get back to me. You may still be skeptical but you won't deny their existence. That's the point I'm making, which you misinterpreted. I'm saying anyone who does the proper research will no longer flat out deny them. I don't expect anyone to watch a video and make up their minds. But I thought that was clear in my bat shit crazy post -_-

      Quote Originally Posted by ThePreserver View Post
      Well... I don't want to be the one to define "intricate" but is it that hard to convince 6 or 7 people on a street corner (especially friends or people you know) to look at the sky for 2 minutes and then add some CG glowing spherical things...?
      Yeah it's a hoax, otherwise there would have been more to report than a handful of videos, like hundreds of eye-witnesses for instance. Also, one of the videos was posted by a guy who does CGI vids. That's still what I would call an elaborate hoax.

      K now debunk THIS one

      http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9h...136#from=embed
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      Funny how they go "SOME SAY it can't possibly be space debris..." as if they're trying to distract you from the obvious simpler explanation...

      The only mildly interesting one is the rather chaotic movement of debris around the tether. The damn thing broke, so it's not a stretch to assume that the debris is related to the experiment... Maybe the tether was electrically charged and interacted with other metallic objects.

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      The so called UFOs at 1:06 to 1:09 are seagulls. Watch the video on fullscreen - it is pixellated yes, but you can still see their wings flapping.

      I know that there are people who really want to believe, and will continue to believe no matter how much evidence on the contrary they are provided (kind of like religious and superstitious beliefs for some. Hmmm....) but I can't help but LOL when people try to claim things that are explainable (even if those things are not obvious at first) as aliens and UFOs.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Sekhmet View Post
      The so called UFOs at 1:06 to 1:09 are seagulls. Watch the video on fullscreen - it is pixellated yes, but you can still see their wings flapping.

      I know that there are people who really want to believe, and will continue to believe no matter how much evidence on the contrary they are provided (kind of like religious and superstitious beliefs for some. Hmmm....) but I can't help but LOL when people try to claim things that are explainable (even if those things are not obvious at first) as aliens and UFOs.
      And now a selected quote from the comments section of said video:

      A bird does not look anything like what is in the top right corner at exactly 1:06 mark dumbass birds are solid objects, not clear an round you moron... get a clue troll... open you damn eyes there are BIRDS in the start of the video the things at the 1:06 mark are not birds!!!
      And this^ is why I'm a skeptic. I don't want to be on this guy's side.

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      There's no way you guys can debunk this


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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      There's no way you guys can debunk this


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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      There's no way you guys can debunk this

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      There's no way you guys can debunk this

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      Quote Originally Posted by cmind View Post
      And this^ is why I'm a skeptic. I don't want to be on this guy's side.
      Don't let someone ruin your beliefs or thoughts! Unless you were already a skeptic.

      I, personally, am waiting for actual evidence that isn't vague or blurry images or "MAYBE it's an alien!" before I make up my mind. Anything can be made to look like anything... but if it's aliens, I want PROOF not a hunch.

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      I think everyone in this thread should donate to SETI so we can find some real aliens.
      https://www.teamseti.org/

      I became a member this year. They had their funding cut off a while ago and started needing donations. In a few days they will start the Allen Telescope Array back up and continue searching.

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      wtf man, is that utube on auto play..i can't turn it off
      With videos like this around. The minority of hardcore skeptics just look ridiculious these days.
      u really just said that

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