Thread: [YouTube] UFO Mainstream News Coverage, Mass Sightings Worldwide

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

Those turns don't have nearly as sharp an angle as the videos I posted.

Well they're not computer-generated. (Although the first one is well within the capabilities of missiles).

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

Show me. Then show me how a helicopter blasts off into space at blinding speeds after taking this sharp turn.

Tbf, you don't see it blasting off in to space. You see it get thinner, go up a few metres and disappear, which gives the illusion of it flying upward at blinding speeds.

To all the people posting videos of flying UFOs in some attempt to convince us skeptics: don't bother. I don't mean to sound harsh or what you might consider "willfully ignorant" or something, but the fact is, we'll never be convinced by video. The well has been poisoned already with lens flares, atmospheric anomalies, regular aircraft with the sun glinting off them, unannounced missile launches, and outright hoaxes that no case can be made with videos. Period. It's like trying to convict someone of a murder, but at the same time trying to pin the JFK assassination on him. It doesn't matter how good your case is for the murder, by bringing in the JFK thing, you turned the jury against you. Likewise, by mixing in OBVIOUS hoaxes and misinterpretations with the more "hard-to-explain" videos, you've turned us skeptics against you.

Rule number 1 of marketing: You're not trying to change anybody's mind. The undecided are the target. If I thought the future of mankind lay in the critical capabilities of a few skeptics, I would have given up long ago. Luckily you're not the person I'm trying to convince. You made up your mind, you will learn based on your own experience at this point.

People don't typically start off believing in aliens by default. Some may be swayed by the youtube videos circulating to begin independent research but that's where the rubber hits the road, not in the videos themselves and not in the irrelevant skeptics that find explanations for them. As of now, there is so much evidence of ET contact that to deny them at this point is a display of ignorance, not skepticism.

And Spartiate: If these were computer generated, that's a pretty intricate hoax.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=QDIF-ZwJbF0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=XtiylJCma9c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=wQmut0XtD3s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw8b8pBW5Sc

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

Rule number 1 of marketing: You're not trying to change anybody's mind. The undecided are the target. If I thought the future of mankind lay in the critical capabilities of a few skeptics, I would have given up long ago. Luckily you're not the person I'm trying to convince. You made up your mind, you will learn based on your own experience at this point.

People don't typically start off believing in aliens by default. Some may be swayed by the youtube videos circulating to begin independent research but that's where the rubber hits the road, not in the videos themselves and not in the irrelevant skeptics that find explanations for them. As of now, there is so much evidence of ET contact that to deny them at this point is a display of ignorance, not skepticism.

You just fell way over in to bat shit crazy territory. You're saying people aren't skeptics, they're just willfully ignorant. When there's thousands of fake videos and photos out there, why would one not be skeptical of the next fake video or photo or whatever?
You're only willfully ignorant if you instantly believe it.

I have not seen ANY evidence of ET contact. I have never spoken to, seen or heard one. I've never even smelled one.

I'm pretty sure we'd know about it. Unless they decided to hide out in the jungle with ancient tribes or something.

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

And Spartiate: If these were computer generated, that's a pretty intricate hoax.

Well... I don't want to be the one to define "intricate" but is it that hard to convince 6 or 7 people on a street corner (especially friends or people you know) to look at the sky for 2 minutes and then add some CG glowing spherical things...?

Originally Posted by tommo

You just fell way over in to bat shit crazy territory. You're saying people aren't skeptics, they're just willfully ignorant. When there's thousands of fake videos and photos out there, why would one not be skeptical of the next fake video or photo or whatever?
You're only willfully ignorant if you instantly believe it.

I have not seen ANY evidence of ET contact. I have never spoken to, seen or heard one. I've never even smelled one.

I'm pretty sure we'd know about it. Unless they decided to hide out in the jungle with ancient tribes or something.

Then go do some research and get back to me. You may still be skeptical but you won't deny their existence. That's the point I'm making, which you misinterpreted. I'm saying anyone who does the proper research will no longer flat out deny them. I don't expect anyone to watch a video and make up their minds. But I thought that was clear in my bat shit crazy post -_-

Originally Posted by ThePreserver

Well... I don't want to be the one to define "intricate" but is it that hard to convince 6 or 7 people on a street corner (especially friends or people you know) to look at the sky for 2 minutes and then add some CG glowing spherical things...?

Yeah it's a hoax, otherwise there would have been more to report than a handful of videos, like hundreds of eye-witnesses for instance. Also, one of the videos was posted by a guy who does CGI vids. That's still what I would call an elaborate hoax.

K now debunk THIS one

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9h...136#from=embed

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

Dailymotion - Space mysteries: NASA's secret UFO footage? - a Funny video

Funny how they go "SOME SAY it can't possibly be space debris..." as if they're trying to distract you from the obvious simpler explanation...

The only mildly interesting one is the rather chaotic movement of debris around the tether. The damn thing broke, so it's not a stretch to assume that the debris is related to the experiment... Maybe the tether was electrically charged and interacted with other metallic objects.

I can't debunk that one... because I have no idea what I'm supposed to be looking for that doesn't act like standard space junk... O.o

I believe!

Wasn't the Israel UFO witnessed by thousands? Or was that another event? Maybe it wasn't that specific one, but I do know there was a UFO (light) over Israel that was observed by the masses.

I understand how easy it is to hoax a UFO on video. But there are mass sightings of UFO's, as in UFOs seen by everyone on the ground, officers, pilots, etc. It's only frustrating that when these events happen only a few videos come out.

My favorite one is the falling object that looks like it could just be a meteorite but then has three glowing orbs around it forming a V shape - when the V shape is being seen all over the world. I want to know more about that video, if it was witnessed by many or just a few.

With videos like this around. The minority of hardcore skeptics just look ridiculious these days.

Originally Posted by knight31

With videos like this around. The minority of hardcore skeptics just look ridiculious these days.

Oh I believe in UFO's, I saw a light travel across my field of view while looking through my telescope at the Great Orion Nebula 2 weeks ago. I couldn't identify it, and it appeared to be "flying" in the sense that it was going really fast through space.

Why'd you even post the second video, the bearded guy acts like a tool.

Originally Posted by tommo

Oh I believe in UFO's, I saw a light travel across my field of view while looking through my telescope at the Great Orion Nebula 2 weeks ago. I couldn't identify it, and it appeared to be "flying" in the sense that it was going really fast through space.

It's a start. Better than people who say we can identify the cause of every single skyward observation.

Originally Posted by Xei

Why'd you even post the second video, the bearded guy acts like a tool.

But Bill Nye is in it. Bill Bill Bill Bill.....

Originally Posted by tommo

Oh I believe in UFO's, I saw a light travel across my field of view while looking through my telescope at the Great Orion Nebula 2 weeks ago. I couldn't identify it, and it appeared to be "flying" in the sense that it was going really fast through space.

I once saw a big circle of light coming down from the sky almost touhing the road at like 3AM, it was a half block away, it was bright like looking at a heli shooting their searchlights, but it made no noise. I was just staring at this thing as i'm in the middle of the road with my dog going "WTF!!!". A UFO it was, since it was unidentified. I still wonder what it was i saw....no noise, super bright light in a circle coming down from the sky almost touching the ground, then going back up.

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

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The so called UFOs at 1:06 to 1:09 are seagulls. Watch the video on fullscreen - it is pixellated yes, but you can still see their wings flapping.

I know that there are people who really want to believe, and will continue to believe no matter how much evidence on the contrary they are provided (kind of like religious and superstitious beliefs for some. Hmmm....) but I can't help but LOL when people try to claim things that are explainable (even if those things are not obvious at first) as aliens and UFOs.

Originally Posted by Sekhmet

The so called UFOs at 1:06 to 1:09 are seagulls. Watch the video on fullscreen - it is pixellated yes, but you can still see their wings flapping.

I know that there are people who really want to believe, and will continue to believe no matter how much evidence on the contrary they are provided (kind of like religious and superstitious beliefs for some. Hmmm....) but I can't help but LOL when people try to claim things that are explainable (even if those things are not obvious at first) as aliens and UFOs.

And now a selected quote from the comments section of said video:

A bird does not look anything like what is in the top right corner at exactly 1:06 mark dumbass birds are solid objects, not clear an round you moron... get a clue troll... open you damn eyes there are BIRDS in the start of the video the things at the 1:06 mark are not birds!!!

And this^ is why I'm a skeptic. I don't want to be on this guy's side.

There's no way you guys can debunk this

Originally Posted by cmind

And this^ is why I'm a skeptic. I don't want to be on this guy's side.

Don't let someone ruin your beliefs or thoughts! Unless you were already a skeptic.

I, personally, am waiting for actual evidence that isn't vague or blurry images or "MAYBE it's an alien!" before I make up my mind. Anything can be made to look like anything... but if it's aliens, I want PROOF not a hunch.

I think everyone in this thread should donate to SETI so we can find some real aliens.
https://www.teamseti.org/

I became a member this year. They had their funding cut off a while ago and started needing donations. In a few days they will start the Allen Telescope Array back up and continue searching.

wtf man, is that utube on auto play..i can't turn it off

With videos like this around. The minority of hardcore skeptics just look ridiculious these days.

u really just said that

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

There's no way you guys can debunk this

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