Thread: About Sopa

Oh okay, I thought they wouldn't support PIPA either.
Maybe they should also massively bias the pages of the politicians who supported it

Google Plans Home Page Protest Against U.S. Piracy Measures - Businessweek

Google is participating as well.

Slightly unrelated, but apparently if you're in the UK you can now be extradited to the US for an act taking place in your own native country despite having committed no crime whatsoever and having never set foot in the US, nor being bound by US law in any way shape or form.

What the fuck?

BBC News - 'Piracy' student Richard O'Dwyer loses extradition case

That's some bullying. Apparently the media industry can't corrupt UK law as well as they can corrupt US law so they just have the US intimidate the UK into extradition.

That's how America rolls... the man most likely to be our next President (besides Obama), Mr. Willard "Mittens" Romney, said last night in the debate that the United States would absolutely pursue their own interests around the world before responding to international law.

You mess with our corporations or military bases, we fuck you up through either extradition, bombing, sanctions, or regime change. (If you're lucky, you get a combination of 3 of the 4!)

And us Americans who wish America wasn't fucking crazy silently sighed.

Romney couldn't beat Obama in his wildest dreams. Not in his wildest dreams.

Originally Posted by Photolysis

Slightly unrelated, but apparently if you're in the UK you can now be extradited to the US for an act taking place in your own native country despite having committed no crime whatsoever and having never set foot in the US, nor being bound by US law in any way shape or form.

What the fuck?

BBC News - 'Piracy' student Richard O'Dwyer loses extradition case

Yep, just ask Marc Emery Marc Emery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Quote from the Preserver's article:

The so-called blackout day to protest anti-piracy legislation is “abuse of power given the freedoms these companies enjoy in the marketplace today,” Christopher Dodd, chairman of the Motion Picture Association of America, said today in an e-mailed statement.

.... The freedoms they enjoy, WHICH YOU WANT TO FUCKING TAKE AWAY YOU DAFT CUNT!


*deep breaths*
I agree that Romney can't win too.
You know, America is just taking advantage of a well known trait of the human psyche.
If they/you all spoke some exotic language and had darker skin everyone would see you the same they see any country you're at war with now. Probably worse.

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

Romney couldn't beat Obama is his wildest dreams. Not in his wildest dreams.

That's not hard, though. His wildest dreams consist of having a sip of alcohol WHILE smoking a cigarette!

Originally Posted by ThePreserver

That's not hard, though. His wildest dreams consist of having a sip of alcohol WHILE smoking a cigarette!

Don't forget while wearing a speedo and drinking some tea.

Flow chart for SOPA/PIPA: Ape Con Myth › 00227 – Super PIPA-SOPA

Originally Posted by tommo

Yep, just ask Marc Emery Marc Emery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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THIS IS NOT HOW LAWS FUCKING WORK. THEY ONLY APPLY TO ACTS COMMITTED WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION. US LAW IS NOT WORLDWIDE LAW.

By that logic any country anywhere could have you arrested and demand your extradition.

What should have happened in both cases:

US: Send this pirate over to us
UK: Hahaha, fuck no. You do know that we're not a part of the US, right?

US: Send this pot-grower over to us
Canada: Lol, fuck no this is Canada's business only bitch. Go fuck yourself.

I mean.. this is just.... what...?

can we revolt now plz?

All I have to say about SOPA is ...who cares if it passes?

All I got from this was major corporations being able to shut down and censor websites hosting copy-written material. But the solution to that is to not use copy-written material on your website really. This actually sounds like good news if it DOES passes, because this would put mainstream media and independent media on the same level.

I'm a musician myself, and I see how big corporations ( for example the big 4 major record labels ) want to keep control of the music industry. It's all about them wanting to be the "Gatekeepers". They want it so that they get all the money from internet radio streams and to be the major distributors of music. They have to realize that it is 2012.

Everything is direct content-to-consumer now and technology today has made so anyone can create content they want. Anyone can create Indie games now, produce films, animate shows, television shows, write e-books, model, create music and actually monetize if they have the passion to do so.

Unauthorized to use a Lady Gaga song for your youtube video because it would cost thousands to clear it? Simply use a royalty-free song from an independent musician or site that hosts indie music, it's cheap and youtube can't give you shit about it because you have permission to use it from the content-creator ( who owns the copyright ).

This whole thing really is the music/film industry not accepting that life has moved on, and they no longer have a monopoly on distribution.

A lot of fear on this SOPA, government is not just going to go shut down your website just because. They will only do that if you have illegal copywritten content on your site. They just care about the money. It's the dumb entertainment industry CEO's that needs to reevaluate their business model if they want to stop piracy.

Originally Posted by Photolysis

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THIS IS NOT HOW LAWS FUCKING WORK. THEY ONLY APPLY TO ACTS COMMITTED WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION. US LAW IS NOT WORLDWIDE LAW.

By that logic any country anywhere could have you arrested and demand your extradition.

What should have happened in both cases:

US: Send this pirate over to us
UK: Hahaha, fuck no. You do know that we're not a part of the US, right?

US: Send this pot-grower over to us
Canada: Lol, fuck no this is Canada's business only bitch. Go fuck yourself.

I mean.. this is just.... what...?

Tell me about it.... I was fucking astonished as I watched all that unfold.
I mean.... seriously it is just FUCKED. That's all there is to say about it!
There is no international law setting a precedent for it but they still fucking do it anyway!!!!
Just....

Originally Posted by tommo

Tell me about it.... I was fucking astonished as I watched all that unfold.
I mean.... seriously it is just FUCKED. That's all there is to say about it!
There is no international law setting a precedent for it but they still fucking do it anyway!!!!
Just....

Majestic - That actually is quite a good point. Maybe it will actually take business away from the main music labels.
haha! Wouldn't that be fucking ironic....

However, it is a problem with news because heaps of blog posters and youtube creators use content from news articles.
And they could easily shut them down (and I'm sure Murdoch is just itching to do that).

Originally Posted by tommo

However, it is a problem with news because heaps of blog posters and youtube creators use content from news articles.
And they could easily shut them down (and I'm sure Murdoch is just itching to do that).

Maybe, could be news too but I've never seen someone's youtube video get snatched down because they had a copy-written article on there. They are worried about that BIG money ( film, video games, and music ) And if they did so what, you can easily just create another article and change it around a bit in your own words.

The people who support SOPA are old-skool people who don't even know how to use a computer. They are trying to figure out how to stop piracy and go back to buying dvd's, cd's, and newspapers which is retarded because technology is advancing and those days are over. They are on their last leg and this SOPA thing sounds like a last desperate move to get people to go back to that old business model.

Originally Posted by Majestic

Maybe, could be news too but I've never seen someone's youtube video get snatched down because they had a copy-written article on there. They are worried about that BIG money ( film, video games, and music ) And if they did so what, you can easily just create another article and change it around a bit in your own words.

I've seen people having their Youtube videos taken down due to malicious DMCA claims even where the use is easily covered by fair use, I've seen people have it taken down by fraudulent claims, and I've seen it done by people abusing it to get the personal details of someone they particularly detest. All in all, it gets abused quite a lot.

Murdoch is a bastard who would almost certainly have such things taken down if he could get away with it.

Also, the funny thing is that SOPA will do fuck all to prevent piracy. It's fairly easy for technically-competent users to get around. Trying to stop this sort of behaviour through legislation when politicians barely understand the issues involved and the nature of the internet will always fail. There's an entire generation of people who grew up using the internet who will run rings around them.

rofl no wonder these people hate the internet. Just can't shut people up.

busted.

I was getting through the day alright with these sites shut down, but then when I learned one of the fansites I visit all the time had also been shut down for the day, I was sad. :c

The response has been pretty incredible ever since wiki shut down. The last time I saw facebook (and twitter, tumblr, etc) so overflowed with something, it was when OBL died.

Originally Posted by Puffin

I was getting through the day alright with these sites shut down, but then when I learned one of the fansites I visit all the time had also been shut down for the day, I was sad. :c

Are you going to write your senator now?

Originally Posted by knight31

Russia Today is hands down one of the best news stations in existence.
I'm going to start only posting news videos and articles if they're from RT.

Originally Posted by knight31

busted.

That'll be the first song taken down....

I'm glad it's getting people riled up. Although I do find some gripes with it; I was telling people about this last year, but no one CARED. If THIS is the only way to get through to America, we are going to have a very, very shitty future.