Thread: How come every single european nation prospered by but only 1 african nation prospered.

Why am I 'mentally ill'. Does disagreeing with you constitute a mental illness? Funny thing is, when you have a valid rebuttal to put across you will, but when I am right, and you can't prove me wrong, you just resort to name calling. If you don't have any valid point to valid, why say anything at all?

Africa still to this day hasn't, you gonna prove me wrong by showing me how africa is this wonderful prosperous continent? Excluding egypt and south africa for brief periods of history.

More-advanced technology/weapons versus the less-advanced = control = Empire.

That's how the romans did it, the spanish did it, and how the brits did it..

...and it goes on.

Originally Posted by Thatperson

Africa still to this day hasn't, you gonna prove me wrong by showing me how africa is this wonderful prosperous continent? Excluding egypt and south africa for brief periods of history.

Africa has never had civilisation if you ignore the times when Africa had civilisation hurrr.

ATS member? @ Thatperson

why has Africaapartfromegpytandsouthafrica never had civilisation then?

What is ATS? do you mean above top secret? If so, no.

Originally Posted by Thatperson

What is ATS? do you mean above top secret? If so, no.

Hmm. Ok. Yeah. That's what I meant. I was just recently having the same 'conversation' with a closet racist over there, who was using that exact same ridiculous slogan that's in your Sig. It just seemed like quite the coincidence, as it was just a couple of days ago, and that was the first time I'd ever seen that slogan.

Oh, well. Carry on.

What did you mean then, I've never heard of an 'ATS' apart from the company who make car tyres. Whats ridiculous about my sig? I already had another DV memebr send a message laughing about it. Whats so funny?

Lol, and this racist you were having a conversation with, what exactly did he say for you to give him the racist label?

Originally Posted by Thatperson

why has Africaapartfromegpytandsouthafrica never had civilisation then?

Complex geographical, social, historical and political reasons. Patently nothing to do with being brown.

what geographical, social, historical and political reasons?

Originally Posted by Thatperson

What did you mean then, I've never heard of an 'ATS' apart from the company who make car tyres. Whats ridiculous about my sig? I already had another DV memebr send a message laughing about it. Whats so funny?

Lol, and this racist you were having a conversation with, what exactly did he say for you to give him the racist label?

By "Yeah. That's what I meant," I mean that I meant Above Top Secret.

And I'm not going to go through the entire conversation, but he basically was making the point that black people should either be forced out of 'White Countries' (his term), and that the immigration policies in 'White Countries' (those which promote and encourage people of other races to move to those more-developed 'White Countries' - such as the US and the UK) are actually a part of a genocidal conspiracy to rid the world of the white man. Even when he would ask a basic question like 'why is it that White Countries are forced to split their land with black people, but Africans aren't being forced to take an influx of white immigrants, and the Japanese haven't allowed mass immigration at all, but nobody forces them to. Why is it that they have the right to maintain their cultural diversity and White Countries don't?' he would get benign, fundamental answers; such as the fact that the black population was shipped here, and to many of the other countries he was mentioning, and once slavery became abolished, and these countries were being touted as 'free, equal opportunity nations', there really was no choice but to allow such mass immigrations. Japan also had slaves, but they were mostly indigenous Japanese, so why would they create a policy such as mass immigration, if not for necessity?' Then he would just get all indignant and start saying "oh you're just another 'Anti-white', spewing your 'Anti-white' venom!" I asked him if he could explain to me exactly what a 'white country' was, in his eyes (as, we can agree, white is a pretty arbitrary term, when talking about race). And he'd be like "how can you ask me what a white person is?" (Even though I asked him what a white country was, which we had to go over 4 times, though he continued to put words in my mouth.) Then he'd say, "don't you know that denying that something exists (by asking that question) is the first step in genocide? You are condoning the eradication of my race. Good job, buddy."

Even when someone would say "I'm not saying that I support of abhor policies that push immigration on any country. I'm simply saying that such colonialism and slave trade are the major reasons why it happened," he'd just call you an 'Anti-white' and continue on with his rants. And then he and this one other person would always be sure to stick that ridiculous line into the bottom of every one of his posts, reminding himself of it over and over, even when the points he was making in conversation didn't hold up to what others were saying.

And I find it ridiculous because (even with the attempt to make a bit more ambiguous, with the quotations around 'Anti-Racism', as they also did), Anti-Racism does not always mean Anti-White. The douche I was talking to was making the point that all the 'non-whites' (which he loved to call people in the thread) who say they are 'against racism', are just against white racism, and that everyone that disagreed with him in the thread was just a part of the conspiracy. It was hypocrisy, in every sense of the word. If he's not a racist, he wears the hat well.

So, forgive me, but, to me, the phrase is just a sensationalized, paranoid way of trying to discredit many, quite legitimate, anti-racist arguments; which I've been seen mostly by white...uh.. (what was is they usually call themselves, nowadays? Ah...) ...."nationalists."

Well mass non-white immigration will lead to genocide, andthe governtments of the world are well aware of this. However much people like to laugh at the gaffes Obama and bush have made, the government are not stupid, they can forsee what effect their policies will have. So intentional genocide yes, is this openly admitted? No. So I think that constitutes a genocidal conspiracy, I'd have to agree with him yes.

I understand the blacks were shipped to America, and I don't consider america a white country. But european migrants are all very recent, non freed slaves. There was absolutly no reason to intentionally destroy europe, which was clearly forseeable.

Peoepl who label themselves as Anti-racists (Because if you asked people in the street if they are racist, the population would be 98% Anti-racist) usually have some gripe with White's, from my eperiecen they will spout out how bad it is that whties dominate a lot of high ranking positions within european society, and how affirmative action (Anti-white racism) is the answer to the problems.

Originally Posted by Thatperson

ok, you all get your way, I'll never return to dreamviews again.

I've not ever seen anyone so obsessed with skin color. Damn weirdos...

Originally Posted by Somii

I've not ever seen anyone so obsessed with skin color. Damn weirdos...

I'm not obsessed with skin color, I actually don't think I've even mentioned skin colour once, although if I have, it's definatly not something I can remember doing and would ahve been a minor comment.

Come on dude... Who are you trying to fool?

As a black man, I take offense to your insulting misrepresentation of black people, particularly about me.


You thought Europe ni**as were something?? Come to the States where we on that real sh*t bro bro. No play we set AFBs and murk shrimp like you.

All of us. Even my grandma.

what does AFBs and Murk Shrimp mean? how have I misrepresented black people(if you believe 'black people' exist) and you?

Originally Posted by Thatperson

I'm not obsessed with skin color, I actually don't think I've even mentioned skin colour once, although if I have, it's definatly not something I can remember doing and would ahve been a minor comment.

You are the definition of a bigot. Everything you post in ED has something to do with your massive prejudice towards muslims, black people and gay people. It's so terribly obvious to everyone in this forum, yet whenever confronted about it, you seem to be unaware of this quality of yours.
It's great that you try to seek knowledge in certain fields, but maybe a more enlightening excercise would be taking a moment to ask yourself why you hate everyone who is different.

Im not sure where I've shown prejudice towards Blacks and Muslims, yes i've made topics critising black and muslim immigration, but whats wrong with that? I'm not sure what the actual definition of a bigot is, but you make it sound like a compliment. And you say prejudice about gay people? Opposition to gay marriage isn't the same as prejudice towards gay people.

somii, yeah way to go putting black people in a good light there,

we set AFBs and murk shrimp like you.

All of us. Even my grandma.

with comments like that, is anyone suprisied why I have concern about europe becoming minority white?

Originally Posted by Thatperson

Im not sure where I've shown prejudice towards Blacks and Muslims, yes i've made topics critising black and muslim immigration, but whats wrong with that? I'm not sure what the actual definition of a bigot is, but you make it sound like a compliment. And you say prejudice about gay people? Opposition to gay marriage isn't the same as prejudice towards gay people.

somii, yeah way to go putting black people in a good light there,

with comments like that, is anyone suprisied why I have concern about europe becoming minority white?

Oh no these people are different, grab your guns, hide your children, a war is coming!

when 'different' means 'murking' people you don't like, then yes of course I have a reason to be concerned.

Originally Posted by Thatperson

when 'different' means 'murking' people you don't like, then yes of course I have a reason to be concerned.

The problem you have, is that you are unable to see the grander scope of things. When you hear "muslim immigrants on the rise" you don't think "Cool, now we can finally move towards a more united culture", but instead think "oh no they will outnumber us and the white race will become extinct and Europe will fall into infinite misery". But you are completely missing the fact that these people are humans, just like you, they aren't a different organism here to replace you. People like you are exactly the reason that our cultures clash, instead of merge. And people like you exist in large numbers on all sides of these issues. And that's terrible.

You're beyond confirmation bias and have resorted to inventing new facts based on your bias.

Originally Posted by Marvo

The problem you have, is that you are unable to see the grander scope of things. When you hear "muslim immigrants on the rise" you don't think "Cool, now we can finally move towards a more united culture", but instead think "oh no they will outnumber us and the white race will become extinct and Europe will fall into infinite misery".

Absolutly 100% spot on. for that part

They may be humans, but they are not just like me, a dog is a mammal, so it's just like me right?

Thankfully, you acknowledge that people like me exist in large numbers on both sides. There is no way around this, we arn't going anywhere soon. This leads to the issue of, why even have multiculturalism in the first place if you can forsee race riots? or racial tensions at least.

As a gay person yourself, i'm quite suprised you're not on my side. White nationalists may be a bit socially conservative for you liking, but at least we don't wan't to stone gays to death.

This is what will happen in a muslim majority society, Tower Hamlets Taliban: Death threats to women and gays attacked in the streets | Mail Online

Originally Posted by Thatperson

How come every single european nation has prospered yet only a single african nation every propered, that being south africa. What caused this?

There is an abundance of thriving life in Africa, believe it or not. Even intertwined within the thickest, seemingly chaotic depths of the Congo, you will find utter prosperity. That which we praise about our civilized selves and correlate with good fortune, from a full belly and warm abode to a strategic mind and innovative tendencies, prevails not only within modern African cities, but also tribally.

only a single african nation every propered

If this claim doesn't appear ignorant to you, Thatperson, we're letting you know how little you know on the subject of Africa. Help us help you. Yes, yes, the continent is quite massive and size can be a bit intimidating at times, but I assure you, Africa has rowed down this serpentine river of Time, albeit not right alongside Europe, and is a successfully active participant in perpetuating humanity.

Unfortunately, trials and tribulations are always abound; Africa is no exception. Akin to European nations, Africa has slums. Africa has corruption. Africa makes mistakes. It is not currently a failing union, however... And in case you've only managed to fall into data of Africa's distress, I can only urge you to remember:

Africa is large. Europe cannot compare in population or environment with that of Africa, making struggle comparisons kind of disproportionate, anyway. Nonetheless, like much of Europe, Africa has many locations of economic strength, as well as burning beacons of industrial civility, i.e. modern, congested cities, from Casablanca to Harare. Have you ever been stuck in Cairo traffic? Cor blimey.

Anyway, I'd suggest spending your next tea time with some tabs open on Angola and Morocco for starters. Check out the IMF's 2010 list of countries by real GDP growth rate, too.

Thatperson must not like beautiful women. Have you SEEN a mixed woman lately? Jesus H. Christ I'll partake of that population.