Oh, well I prefer that combination to DPH alone because I don't just feel like passing out the whole time, but I've done it together as often as I have alone. My only real point is, once drugs are concerned, safety is kind of thrown out the window. Yeah some are excessively unsafe, but if you're going to suggest drugs at all you might as well be informative about what ones are available and what they do. What business is it of mine if this guy wants to throw caution to the wind and take any of these? I would rather be informative and educative and let users exercise personal responsibility.