Thread: How to learn to do vivid visualizations?.So vivid that will confuse with real world,physical things?

Originally Posted by Original Poster

Your wish is my command.

Keep in mind when doing the type of visualizing you initially mentioned, you are creating a window to your unconscious. You are seeing images related to your unconscious conditioning and neural patterns. You're going to see things based on this conditioning, which your conscious mind has no control of because it's based on your past experience.

To achieve purposed visualization, you gotta start by focusing on something very simple, even simpler than an apple, such as a blue rectangle. At first, you'll merely gain flashes of the blue rectangle for nanoseconds at a time. This phase of the process can be very, very frustrating if you expect to achieve results quickly. Building the focus to hold a blue rectangle for even two straight seconds can take a mind-numbing amount of time and focus. Once you can hold focus on a shape and color for a substantial amount of time, you can try rotating it, and go on from their increasing the shape's detail etc. Note this part is theory, I fucking suck at gnosis. Chaos Magicians do this because it allows us to train gnosis which basically means singular focus. You'll notice there is no room for other thoughts or desires when one undergoes this process.

Thank you so much for the tips and information

I have a question, though. How good are you at this right now?

I'm out of practice, I've been traveling the country (US) for the last 6 months and fell out of a lot of good habits, including recording my dreams, etc. I also couldn't sustain the motivation to put in the time back when I was working on it. In short, I know the theory but am not the best source of practical understanding. I got like 4 seconds of sustained focus once, and that was a lot for me.

I can try looking up the website where I was recommended this practice though, I'll post it if I find it.

Meditate and do visualization. Learn about self hypnosis. Learn relaxation ans breathing techniques.

Originally Posted by Original Poster

I got like 4 seconds of sustained focus once, and that was a lot for me.

I wish I had that kind of skill at least. I could barely hold it for like half a second, and I've been trying all sorts of techniques for several months now. I also wouldn't mind knowing the website if you come across it again.

Originally Posted by kadie

Meditate and do visualization. Learn about self hypnosis. Learn relaxation ans breathing techniques.

I thought about meditation and visualization, but I'm not really sure my visualizations would be convincing with that alone.

Well you could use the black box or empty rice bowl method that remote viewers use. But that takes focused thought too.
basically you first clear your mind of all intrusive conscious thought. Only imagine an empty black box or black board. I use a black computer screen. Some people say to make your mind as blank as an empty rice bowl. It might take 2 to five minutes to get a bla
Cl screen. From there you should be able to add other images of your own choosing.

Sorry about the text skipping around but DM boots me off from time to time then I have to edit what was not autosaved.

Originally Posted by kadie

Well you could use the black box or empty rice bowl method that remote viewers use.

When you put it that way it sounds really interesting. I'll definitely try it. And I don't really mind the text skipping.

Let us know how it goes. I was going to suggest that you keep a journal like lucid dream or other dream journalist.
Anyway, I wish you good trials and all
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Hello, I know this thread is old but I'll respond anyway.

The kind of visualization you're talking about requires two things: 1) developing your visualization skills and 2) snapping yourself into an altered state of consciousness.

Let me explain what I mean by this. When someone has a visual hallucination, whether it's because they're on drugs or they are having a schizophrenic hallucination, they are actually also in an altered state of consciousness. In order to see something that's not there requires one to be somewhat in an altered state. To get an idea of what this feels like, and you've probably done this many times, think back to a time when you were in school and instead of listening to the teacher you start thinking about something, and then you start being so much into your thoughts that you're actually daydreaming, seeing what you're imagining, and almost like being transported to a different place, experiencing your thoughts, until something snaps you out of it.

Now I know what you are looking for is to be able to actually see visually without being in an altered state and thought I'm not one to say anything is impossible, I would say that some change of consciousness must take place in order for the vision to crystalize and look real. You can practice building these skills for both at the same time:

Practice visualizing a simple object, but instead of just visualizing it, also feel it, smell it, hear it, hold it, throw it, get a 'feeling/knowing' from it. Using all your senses instead of just your visual sense will pull you into an altered state much quicker. Start with simple objects, then move on to more complex objects, cups, cars, clothes, a person's face.

As someone wrote earlier, in the beginning it will only be in your imagination with microsecond flashes of it visually where you won't even be sure if you saw anything. But eventually it will become more and more solid, the microflashes lasting longer and longer.

What you're doing by practicing visualizations like this is creating connections in your brain to be able to visualize things vividly. Since it's not something we humans practice because we don't need it, we have never developed it and the brain connections are not there yet - but they will be with regular exercise, I promise. Look at it this way: people who were blind all their lives because of severe cataracts were never able to develop the brain connections to see. Once they had cataract surgery you'd think they'd be able to see perfectly, but that's not the case at all. It will take months for the person to develop the ability to do a simple task like distinguishing between a circle and a square. But will it be worth the effort? Absolutely. So, yes, it will take a long time to develop this ability, maybe 2 years of daily practice, one if you're lucky.

For those in here who gave the questioner a hard time about the question, I will tell you what an ability like this can be used for. Once you develop this level of skill (or even a more basic level of being able to hold in the mind's eye a picture) you will be able to receive psychic impressions in the form of visions. While you will still have to learn to how to interpret these, by practicing the other senses as well (hearing, touch, feeling/knowing, smell) you will be a long way toward becoming psychic. I know it sounds crazy but it will happen. We all have the potential, we just have to develop it. One day, you'll be thinking, where did I put my keys, and you will see clearly, in a visual form, where your key was lost - and you'll understand how this is the beginning of a much more powerful way of knowing.

One of the best books I can recommend on this subject, and all psychic/intention abilities is: Initiation Into Hermetics by Franz Bardon. It's a complete manual on developing your abilities, with step by step directions.