Thread: The Erosion of Civil Liberty in America

Originally Posted by TiredPhil

Latest invention available to all
Plastic, printable gun, with only one metal part.
Somehow, I do not think your problems are going to go away.

Cody Wilson: 3D-printable guns are just the start, 3D-printable guns are just the start, says Cody Wilson | World news | The Guardian

The interview with him was on the local news today. It really is weird seeing it.

Our governor is touting Texas as a place that is less restrictive with guns. I feel sick every time I see the commercial.


Something is wrong in this country when we have to present a license and sign a declaration to buy Claritin-D for allergies but can buy a handgun or semi-automatic weapon outside a gun show in the parking lot with no record of the transaction and no proof that the purchaser isn't a criminal.

Something is wrong when the vast majority of Americans approve of background checks yet we can't get any meaningful legislation passed in that direction, and states actually forbid law enforcement agencies to pursue the issue in any way.

People are shouting civil liberty at the top of their lungs without even thinking about the consequences of blocking some of the first helpful laws this country has seen in a long time.

Originally Posted by melanieb

Something is wrong in this country when we have to present a license and sign a declaration to buy Claritin-D for allergies but can buy a handgun or semi-automatic weapon outside a gun show in the parking lot with no record of the transaction and no proof that the purchaser isn't a criminal.

I totally agree, the oppressive laws around prescription drugs is outrageous.

Talk Show Host Calls For Armed March on D.C. - YouTube

Originally Posted by hathor28

Talk Show Host Calls For Armed March on D.C. - YouTube

Kokesh needs to work on his marketing skills.

Obama Speech: Reject Voices About Gov't Tyranny - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SULfkybxLlQ
Martial law is coming prepare !! Banned Episode- with Jesse Ventura - Police State.!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvBfwQSFtVE

Mandatory Microchip Implant for all Americans by March 23rd 2013, Wake Up Jacob! - YouTube

Originally Posted by hathor28

Mandatory Microchip Implant for all Americans by March 23rd 2013, Wake Up Jacob! - YouTube

It's May 11th and nobody has microchip implants. Quit posting sensationalist nonsense.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

It's May 11th and nobody has microchip implants. Quit posting sensationalist nonsense.

I'm just posting things i am seeing, i didn't state that this DID happen, i'm just more open minded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jmnP5yg9Q4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...ture=endscreen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-CpCUOygqU

Obama Administration Secretly Obtains Phone Records of AP Journalists | Threat Level | Wired.com

Originally Posted by Oneironaut Zero

Obama Administration Secretly Obtains Phone Records of AP Journalists | Threat Level | Wired.com

Apparently the White House says they had nothing to do with it, rather it was something the DoJ did.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

Apparently the White House says they had nothing to do with it, rather it was something the DoJ did.

You believe that?

Originally Posted by hathor28

You believe that?

I believe that's what they're saying, yes (because it is). Whether its true or not, I have no idea. But the DoJ under Holder has a penchant for fucking up so I wouldn't be surprised.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

Apparently the White House says they had nothing to do with it, rather it was something the DoJ did.

Yeah, that's what they are saying (and aren't really saying anything other than that during the 'pending investigation). Taken with a grain of salt, of course.

And here it is:

U.S. Military ‘Power Grab’ Goes Into Effect



(Also, not 100% on the source's cred. Bear in mind.)

Edit:

Also found this, from a member on ATS:

The language incorrectly attributed to Title 10 USC is found in 32 CFR 185, and its source is 76 FR 2248 (Jan 13, 2011). In other words, this guy is at least a couple years late to the party.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread947366/pg1

Does anyone know anymore about this issue and its precedence? Is this just a rehashing of the power that is already vested?

Originally Posted by StonedApe

Ya, i can't pay my credit card, arrest me! smh.

That's nice. The government gives us a recession and then puts people in jail for not being able to pay fines. The oppression continues to grow.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

That's nice. The government gives us a recession and then puts people in jail for not being able to pay fines. The oppression continues to grow.

All while Wall Street is allegedly hitting record highs, this [last] quarter. Any healthy dose of skepticism would have someone wondering how much of what is going on is engineered, and how much of it is by pure chance. If one is open to the former possibility, the dissinters (which the WH has gone on record as trying to discredit) don't really seem all that crazy anymore, do they?

It really might have been orchestrated for that purpose. No amount of conspiracy or corruption surprises me any more.

Can someone with some time, and an interest in these things, run through this material and verify it? I just watched the video and have downloaded the .PDF, but I don't know when I'll have time to go through it.

Leaked Document: Military Internment Camps in U.S to be Used for Political Dissidents (VIDEO) – Secrets of the Fed

Maryland governor signs tough gun control law | Reuters

Originally Posted by Oneironaut Zero

Maryland governor signs tough gun control law | Reuters

So they are doing it one state at a time eh? By the end of the year all states already have the gun law.

Originally Posted by hathor28

So they are doing it one state at a time eh? By the end of the year all states already have the gun law.

No, that's not how politics work in the US. States have the power to do as they please. Maryland passed a gun control law but meanwhile Texas would be more likely to pass gun rights act or something. Colorado legalized pot but its neighbor, Utah, has the harshest drug prohibition in the Union.

Originally Posted by Original Poster

No, that's not how politics work in the US. States have the power to do as they please. Maryland passed a gun control law but meanwhile Texas would be more likely to pass gun rights act or something. Colorado legalized pot but its neighbor, Utah, has the harshest drug prohibition in the Union.

The problem is that federal law trumps state law, and the federal government passes laws all the time, most of which they have no business passing because the 10th Amendment says that any power not specifically given to the federal government in the Constitution is a state matter. That amendment is being ignored. Marijuana is still illegal everywhere in the U.S. under federal law, although the Constitution does not give the federal government the right to have such a law. Fortunately, the feds haven't raided Colorado or Washington like they did California when medical marijuana was legalized there. I hope it stays that way.

Could this be the future of 'non-violent protest' in America?

How the US Turned Three Pacifists into Violent Terrorists

Story was also covered by CNN and the Washington Post.
The Prophets of Oak Ridge | Style | Washington Post

Not good.