Quote Originally Posted by Voldmer View Post
Okay, got it! I'm essentially an anarcho-capitalist (for those who know, what that is), and I think that producers do own their products (but that they had better sell them, if they want any real benefit from them).
Producers are the laborers that actually build the product, support the entire industry through their labor and reap nothing but their contracted wage. Essentially anarcho-capitalism exploits labor from an anarcho-syndicalist perspective. It's called wage-slavery because laborers have no choice but to be exploited if they want to make ends meet.

This discussion seems much more interesting than the OPs ridiculous game of redefining socialism and taking any attempt to clarify socialism as question dodging.