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      Quote Originally Posted by Creation View Post
      My point is that we were not alive the same way we are today. Our human selves did not exist back then, even if the matter of our bodies did.
      I'm sorry, but it's hard to believe you aren't just talking out of your ass here, because you are making statements about things you could not possibly know. It's one thing to make suggestions and admit that these suggestions were made under a lot of assumptions, but that's not what you are doing. Your stated reason for believing in an afterlife (which is just living as a human again? How is that an afterlife? Simply because it is another life you live after yours?) is rather flimsy and has no basis in fact and relies entirely on assumptions.

      Also, I know Deanstar is banned and he's also pretty much just a troll, but citing the Bible as evidence for an afterlife is dubious because I think most of us will agree that it isn't a credible source.

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      There is something called an afterlife. It's called death.

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      Quote Originally Posted by snoop View Post
      I'm sorry, but it's hard to believe you aren't just talking out of your ass here, because you are making statements about things you could not possibly know. It's one thing to make suggestions and admit that these suggestions were made under a lot of assumptions, but that's not what you are doing. Your stated reason for believing in an afterlife (which is just living as a human again? How is that an afterlife? Simply because it is another life you live after yours?) is rather flimsy and has no basis in fact and relies entirely on assumptions.
      I´ve already stated in my first post that this idea is by no means scientific.

      Quote Originally Posted by snoop View Post
      (which is just living as a human again? How is that an afterlife? Simply because it is another life you live after yours?)
      Well what is your definition of an afterlife then? The traditional afterlife expectation of having your mind/spirit/soul transferred into another realm where it continues to live does not sound convincing to me. I doubt we´ll have the privilege of keeping our memories after death. But even if we are not the same person anymore, we would still be able to exist as another being (human or not).
      Maybe it would be more accurate to call this “another chance for existing” instead of an afterlife.


      Quote Originally Posted by snoop View Post
      Also, I know Deanstar is banned and he's also pretty much just a troll, but citing the Bible as evidence for an afterlife is dubious because I think most of us will agree that it isn't a credible source.
      I never quoted the bible or any religious ideology. Don´t compare my posts to those of bible-thumpers. Being open minded about more spiritual topics and being religious are not the same thing.

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      Well it doesn't just revolve around money, despite behind a huge factor. You have to imagine too that scientists would rather work on something that will likely grant some kind of progress, as well as wanting to start on something that already has a basis. The reputation most concepts such as an afterlife have is generally a bad one with most experiments ending in failure, so it's not a certain field of research to be in. On top of that, scientists might also be scared to taint their names by working in a field with a high density of pseudo scientists.

      In terms of experiments on afterlife, I faintly remember one currently running, and it seemed to be very "legit". If I find it I'll post it here
      I totally agree with this post. The kind of tragicomical thing with science as I see it though. Is the last statement you mentioned, that
      scientists might also be scared to taint their names by working in a field with a high density of pseudo scientists.
      That the fear of being condemned like an unprofessional scientist for taking on a hard or in many peopels eyes "weird" questions. That's kind of sad. And that's the way it works in many other areas of life as well unfortunately.

      But hey, If you find the experiment you mentioned. Then i'll gladly take a look at it!
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      Well maybe it is about time for me to actually post some relevant stuff to this thread now since it have cooled of a bit after the first wave of scepticism and somewhat, vague interest. So here we go! This is an interview with an Cardiologist that have taken some interests in the NDE(Near Death Experiences) Phenomenons that occur all around the world in different ways due to sickness or more serious injuries. I tend to belive in most of these NDE stories for various reasons as long as I doesn't seem to stumble on a single redflag. All it takes is really one redflag for me to dissmiss all of it's content as very doubtful. And one of those redflags when it comes to NDE stories for me, is when the person who claims to have had an NDE are starting to talk about a heven and a hell. And the imbedded message of that tends usually to be very obvious.. A heaven could maybe be mentioned in those NDE's that I find to be legit. But merely in a sense of explaining their NDE as heavenly, so people get an overall idea of what they might be reffering their NDE experience to. Alright this was merely a tiny fraction of all the aspects I take in consideration when I try to find some "legit evidence" or what to call it. Anyways, if there happen to be any curious soul out there that might happen to bother about anything I post here at all. Then here is the Interview in two parts. Both are very interesting, so Enjoy! The first seconds of the intro is a bit funny but it's al good. I will be keep posting other things as time goes by.
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      I used to read people's NDE's and watch their video's, I believed it until I found some of the information given to be suspicious. So in some of the NDE cases it depends on their beliefs for the experience they'd have. So a Christian tends to be greeted by Jesus at the end of the tunnel, a Buddhist might be greeted by Buddha, Allah for someone who is Hindu, A passed family member for one not affiliated with a religion. So then I thought, "Oh it's not about religion, it's about love." But then I watched a women's NDE video and said she was greeted by tall grey skinned beings with big black eyes wearing silver clothing... That instantly reminded me of a UFO testimony video I saw where they claimed a UFO was hovering in the sky in front of this mother and daughters house, the Aliens did something to both of them with either telepathy or some machine on the UFO, it made the mother feel unfathomable love and bliss, and even her retelling the experience she seemed to get all emotional in the love she felt. But while the mother was instilled with that artificial love during the UFO experience, her daughter standing next to her said she heard heinous noises in her head and felt massive fear and panic that also seemed to have been instilled from an outside force. While retelling their experience to the camera the daughter obviously was traumatized from the experience, the mom didn't give a fuck because she was too enthralled by her instilled experience. Ever after that experience the poor daughter saw little aliens in her room staring at her at night, and her other sister caught one leaving her sisters room one night and she ran into her room, then another alien peaked into her room. Yet the mother still cherishes her experience and seems to love the beings. She didn't seem to empathize with her traumatized daughters at all. It seemed so strange to me. This reminds me of what NDE experiencers say and express. This doesn't prove or disprove anything, but it makes what might happen after the body dies sound like a trick...
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      Narwhal I see what your getting at, and I find your comparison interesting and indeed thoughtful as well. I have some interests in UFO's as well, but havn't spending to much time to go into alien stories since I finding it even harder to actually try to see if there could ever been a possibility that any aliens that have been visiting people. There are some very interesting stories from pilots how ever, that could deserve some attention in my opinion. How ever back to NDE's
      So then I thought, "Oh it's not about religion, it's about love." But then I watched a women's NDE video and said she was greeted by tall grey skinned beings with big black eyes wearing silver clothing...
      I have as you also come to this conclusion that it's essentially all about love in the end. And even if there happen to be different kind of NDE's depending of which kind of belief a person have. I still dont see the problem with that. A NDE could maybe be adaptable just in the same way as anything in life is adaptable. There is for example not one and only true kind of race when it comes to dogs. But rather many different kind of dogs. Just look at what we may call a flower, there are thousands of variations with different shapes and colors but their are still not more flower than another flower. My understanding of life as I've have come to see it. Is that everything there is, is essentially just pure consciousness and love. Or to make it even more clear, consciousness is love. So love is all there is. And why then even call it love. When love is what is. Then is, is all there is.


      About the alien looking person in that NDE. Wasn't that NDE story pleasant for the person who had it? Or did it remind you of that Alien story merely because the NDE part described the look of an alien in the NDE?

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