Thread: How to control what you see, stop feeling pain... How to learn doing things that are not natural

Street LSD is notorious for not even being LSD. There are a plethora of psychedelic (and for that matter, dissociative) hallucinogenic drugs out there, many of which are small enough molecules to fit on tabs/hits. Some of them, like any of the n-bome family, are actually incredibly dangerous to take without knowing the actual dosage, unlike some of the better studied psychedelics like LSD or mushrooms. In fact, they can actually kill you or cause permanent brain damage (iirc from overheating). Some people really aren't suited to take hallucinogens, and for them to choose not to is both commendable and the right choice.

Honestly OP, dissociatives alone or in combination with psychedelics sound more like what you want for the ideas you're throwing around. Have you tried any before? If you're more keen on psychedelics, try combining both. They get rid of the negative effects both both, and amplify the good effects of both, imo/ime.

In regards to a bad trip, I had a real problem with drugs before (that I'm still kind of working through, but have made a lot of progress on), and hallucinogens (namely dissociatives, but psychedelics too) are the ones I used (use rarely now I should say) the most. I've tripped on a large number of psychedelic and dissociative drugs, and far too many times for me to mention it without being somewhat embarrassed. I've never had what I consider a bad trip, although there are plenty of them that have had negative portions, sometimes very negative, but mostly due to my wanton abuse and just how much I was taking. Never was it something I would consider scarring or something I couldn't learn from. The fact of the matter is that it seems many people are not this mentally resilient. I'm not trying to toot my own horn, this is in response to OneUp. I find the idea of a bad trip being as awful, terrifying, or scarring as people make them out to be myself, but I've read enough reports and seen enough people actually go through it that I accept and recognize it to be something that isn't overblown. Many people do not react to negativity or traumatic experiences well at all, and often in fact tend to make them spiral even more out of control. Some people are scarred for years and whatnot, but, I do want to address the story of the guy that never came back. It's a really vague tale of he-said-she-said that makes its way everywhere, just like the one where someone on LSD thought they turned into a glass of orange juice for life and one day tipped over or something. If somebody really goes crazy from something like this, it isn't from the drug itself. It's from a predisposition toward some kind of schizo-spectrum disorder that they were born with. Stress, whether it's from drugs or life, can bring that out of people and cause a psychotic episode. The drug will not simply cause somebody to go insane for the rest of their life.

As far as controlling the drugs--when you do them as often I did, it was very easy to control them, even at megadoses and heroic doses (which I tended to do more often than not because if I didn't lose myself almost completely I didn't really feel like I properly tripped). However, trying to do this sober can't really go much further than advanced visualization and being really good at meditation. Otherwise, lucid dreaming is the realm you should shoot for. Otherwise, just take the drugs. I thought for a minute this was a necrobump of a thread that showed up like 5 years ago with some guy wishing he had schizophrenia, having no idea what it was really like. I remember wringing him out for that one. For anyone who thinks it'd be fun or cool, take a minute to think about what you're asking for. I've had quite a few psychotic episodes from my drug use. While not scarring, they were definitely some pretty fucked up experiences. They are very interesting for me to think back on today, from an educational and experiential standpoint, but it's nothing you want to experience. I'm simply making the most of the experiences I've already had. If I had to number the times I've had a psychotic break (one of which lasted 3 days), I'd say I've had around 6. Which is to say, compared to how much and how often I was doing the drugs I was doing, was extremely lucky. Take it from me, it was really, really fucking stupid, and definitely not worth it to go so hard on those drugs. I know, who would think it would be? At the time though, I didn't care what happened to me, so I'm just leaving a warning for anyone who is of a similar mind set and just doesn't care to think of themselves like they should.