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      Thank you for more input, VVilliam ...

      The concept of a Higher Self is quite congruous with Jung's ideas centring around individuation. He spoke of opposing forces which define each other by necessity, and although there are opposite sides to spectra, all elements combined form a whole, where life and death is part of a circle and everything is part of the Ouroboros (please process this word using your ComList). Dualism merely expresses two sides of the same coin and the Ouroboros does not contradict your idea of Oneness, higher self and the cosmic mind.

      For Jung, matter and psyche were one and the same. The essence of the world can express both consciousness and unconsciousness. The former has an illuminating quality and the latter contains a lot of information which has the potential to come to the fore. I posted about Aion: Researches into the Phenomenology of the Self on DarkestDarkness's thread about all things Carl Jung but I think a particular section of the book is pertinent to the cosmology and cosmogony that we have discussed so I'll also repost it here:

      'In Aion, Jung's Quaternio 'chain' describes the structure and dynamics of the Self as well as our reality. The diagram in the book shows a series of double pyramids attached together by cones that denote the development of the Ego and the world, and the base of each pyramid is a quaternity distinguishing four separate elements. A Gnostic sect known as the Naassenes conceived of an image known as the Moses Quaternio—Moses being the second most important man in Judaism because, although he never achieved the prestige of Christ, he was the next best thing for setting the realistic example of working on his individuation throughout his lifetime—which is also known as the Anthropos Quaternio.

      'At the top of the pyramid lies the Anthropos or Higher Adam (Jungian Self) and at the bottom of the cone below the quaternity is the Lower Adam or Man (Ego). The edges of the square which represent distinguished elements and go between the Higher and Lower Adams are labelled as follows (with the corresponding Jungian archetypes in brackets): Higher Jethro (Wise Old Man), Higher Moses (Great Father), The Positive Miriam (Anima) and The Wise Zipporah (Great Mother). (These names are derived from the Book of Exodus in the Old Testament.) Before the Ego can become the Self, it has to confront the Moses Quaternio—in other words, the striving towards the Higher Adam by the Lower Adam describes the process of individuation.

      'The Moses Quaternio is only one of the four in the chain and sits at the very top (immediately above the Shadow Quaternio that begins with the Serpent at the bottom of the cone). Based on the decisions one makes, one can either strive towards God (Self) or the Devil (Serpent) depending on archetypal interaction. The Shadow Quaternio includes the following archetypal opposites: The Lower Jethro, The Negative Miriam, The Ethiopian Woman, and the Carnal Man. According to Jung, the Ego interacts with these archetypes and chooses to integrate their positive or negative contents. Even the Serpent is not necessarily all negative as it possesses its own peculiar wisdom which can catapult one closer to God—Lucifer, after all, means 'light bringer', and darkness bestows dimension to light. Even though the Serpent rules the Shadow, this one contains all the repressed material we need to confront for better or for worse.

      'The double pyramid at the very bottom of the chain is called the Lapis Quaternio, with the bottom of the cone labelled as Rotundum (prima materia or the chaotic state of being at the beginning of time) and the top is Lapis. The four edges of the middle square are labelled as follows: Earth, Wind, Fire and Water. (The tangible forms derived from the intangible source.) The Rotundum coming asunder can be symbolically thought of as the squaring of the circle in alchemy to form the elements to be subsequently united in the Lapis (which is not to be mistaken for the Philosopher's stone). The Lapis encompasses all elements like an ordered seed which marks the bottom of the Paradise Quaternio whose edges in the middle indicate the four rivers that flow from the source in paradise (Aqua Doctrinae): Gihon, Tigris, Pishon, and Euphrates. The water can be thought of as the blood of God which sustains paradise and culminates in the Serpent (the highest possible state in the animal kingdom where the Ego is developed but the lowest in the Shadow kingdom).

      'As we move up the planes in the chain, a point is reached which is indistinguishable from God and there are no more squares to integrate. As Jung puts it in Aion:

      "The four quaternios depicted above are first and foremost an attempt to arrange systematically the almost limitless wealth of symbols in Gnosticism and its continuation, alchemy."~Carl Jung

      'Once the Ego reaches the summit of the Quaternio chain, it has nowhere else to go but to go back to the beginning, thus the mouth of the chain turns to its tail to form the Ouroboros—where the Ego, having reached the perfect unity of the Self, disunites to start anew in the void.

      "Man's task is ... to become conscious of the contents that press upward from the unconscious. Neither should he persist in his unconsciousness nor remain identical with the unconscious elements of his being, thus evading his destiny, which is to create more and more consciousness. As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being." ~Carl Jung


      Yes, all things Jung—the psychoanalyst smarter than the average. The dichotomies of animus and anima, consciousness and the unconscious (the former trying to bring the latter into its light). God is consciousness: the former is all-knowing, meaning, all knowing, a knowing in itself and nothing more—that is consciousness (the knowing of this and that in the sense of knowing that things exist or the perception of the appearance of things; to be aware is to know about something. Without consciousness nothing can be said to exist. God is everywhere/nothing exists outside consciousness.

      Feel free to process any keywords here as it would be interesting to see more strings ...
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      Summerlander- Hell... i really dislike this type of texts, and I still dont understand this form of writing. I respect Jung, and i consider him probably the most important person in the study of mind and consciousness in modern times (in my opinion still below Lao tse, Buddha, Ficino, Imhotep, Zoroaster, Zosimos, etc, even if half of those never really existed) but i just dont understand why you would write in this type of language. The book is supposed to be explicative and divulgative. Why would you make 3 pages of incomprehensible words to expose an idea that you can resume in 3 lines with simple words that are easy to understand? Maybe you have some insight on the motives behind this. I dont think the idea becomes more convincing when its encrypted and harder to understand for no apparent reason Gnostic and hermetic texts are much worse, tho.
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      Linda and William
      The internet
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      Eggs In Nests
      Intransigence
      Metaphysics
      The Mother God
      Secret Root

      A Round Stone

      Summerlander;

      I have added the beneath word-strings to my ComList
      Feel free to add them to you own CL...assuming you are creating one....

      The Round Stone
      Darkest-Darkness
      Post it
      To create more and more consciousness?
      The Ouroboros does not contradict the idea of Oneness, higher self and the cosmic mind.
      Aion
      Carl Jung
      Please process this word using your Name2Nunumber list.
      Pertinent to cosmology and cosmogony
      Anthropos Quaternio
      The Philosopher's Stone
      Opposing forces which define each other by necessity
      Where life and death is part of a circle and everything is part of the Ouroboros
      Although there are opposite sides to spectra, all elements combined form a whole
      An illuminating quality
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      To become conscious of the contents that press outward from the unconscious
      Though the Serpent rules the Shadow
      The essence of the world can express both consciousness and unconsciousness. T
      Building lists together
      We have discussed
      Is quite congruous with Jung's ideas centring around individuation.
      Gnosticism
      Dualism merely expresses two sides of the same coin
      The concept of a Higher Self
      A lot of information which has the potential to come to the fore.
      Even The Shadows
      Matter and psyche are one and the same.
      This Speaks of…
      Please place this on your ComList
      Thread about all things
      Research into the Phenomenology of the Self
      Dichotomy

      Feel free to add the beneath to your Name2Number list.

      Archetypes = 120
      WingMakers
      Intention
      Wholeness
      The Truth
      Steampunk
      Compliment
      Planet Earth
      Question.
      Exploring
      Incantation
      Golden Feather
      Zeitgeist
      Gobbledygook
      Materialism
      Get The Gist
      Lucid Dreaming

      Rotundum = 126
      Interactive
      The Body of God
      Returning
      Completely
      Desperation
      All That We Are.
      Not Wrong
      Reflections
      Shift Focus
      Important
      Mother of God


      To create more and more consciousness = 383
      Other Ways of Using Your Lists

      Even The Shadows = 168
      Read/Book/Story
      James (WingMakers)
      Ozone therapy
      False Accusations
      Atheism and Theism
      Faster Than Light


      The overall purpose of human existence is to kindle a light of being into the darkness of ignorance = 932

      [~]

      Dichotomy = 112
      Tom Campbell
      JREF Forum
      Mathematics
      The Cherubim
      Being Friends
      Imagination
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      Sit Tight
      The Mother
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      To be aware is to know about something = 385
      [~]

      What you quoted re Jung immediately reminded me of the second device I created for the purpose of contacting the Higher Self Aspect. I think I have already mentioned how this initial communication process, eventually developed into the Generating of Message through use of computers and software.

      Here is a picture of the device I am reminded of - it is modeled after the World Card of the Major Tarot...and certainly acted as I assume a Philosophers Stone would function...it is even made of stone...but then again...what isn't...ah yes - Consciousness isn't...and acts as the 'other' ingredient required to complect the circle.








      The ingredients required to complect the circle. = 459
      Synchronicity and the Holographic Universe
      Fear intimidation distraction exploitation
      The journey is fun and maybe that is the point.

      eta;

      Williams second UICDevice = 239
      The physical universe
      Without Comparison
      That Is A Good Question
      Written In The Clouds
      Significant Variations
      Preparing for the Hunt.
      The devil is in the details
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      The Mystic Forest
      Transition
      Awesome
      Nevertheless
      Systems of Disparity
      Verdant
      Conformal Cyclic Cosmology
      Development/Growth
      Infinite Quantum Zen
      EZPZ
      Watch This Space
      Aeon
      Increase in Elemental Activity
      Welcome
      Rest When Weary
      Tug Of War
      Look Closely
      Without Comparison
      Interoperate
      We know not what we are because what we think we are gets in the way of it all
      Universal Objective
      Separation
      Earn
      Shine Your Light
      The
      The Angel of the Lord
      Realise
      Teach
      Do Not Worry
      Sustainability
      Out of Body Experience
      Is there any such thing as 'Objective Morality'
      Mixture
      The Digital Angel

      Each
      A Degenerative Force to Existence
      Preternatural
      Lurking Like Shadows
      Text2Num Doc.
      Jesus
      Noise From The Peanut Gallery
      Are
      That is Correct
      Starve The Distractions Feed The Focus
      Think With The heart - Feel With The Mind
      Earth teachers (non-physical) prepare the species for acceptance of the Grand Portal
      Truth
      Angels
      Victim/Vampire Energy Exchange
      When The Opportunity Presents Itself To Do So...
      The Great Attractor
      White Light
      (Choose Three In A Row)

      Thanatophobic
      Move
      Delineating
      Searching For The Truth
      Each To Their Own

      Synchronicity
      Be aware
      Failure
      Pitchforks and Torches
      Open

      Empower The Inner Empire
      Only
      Entities of Particular Belief Systems
      Enchanted
      Even As An Elemental Principle

      Idiosyncratic
      You Are Nobodies Victim - Ever.
      Dark
      Howdy!
      The sort of evidence a sceptic calls for in relation to the subject of Intelligent Design.

      Getting Off The Hook
      Which
      Do you believe astrology works
      Consciousness itself is fundamental to all our virtual realities
      The Number One Nine Two
      Realm of Remembrance

      Transposing
      Free Will
      Jung-Animus
      Square and Compass
      Tetrahedron

      People Judge People
      Idea
      Key
      The Brain Is Trained To recognize Patterns
      Eat Sceptics For Lunch

      Inter-Dependent
      Understand few reach self awareness
      Intelligence with Wisdom
      Monetary
      Random coincidence? I think not.

      It is just one of those things.
      Such a Mind can prove its existence to the individual
      Victim
      Purpose
      Religion

      Cymatics
      Hot
      Quite the Story-Makers
      We Are
      Collective Consciousness

      Manifest Destiny
      Discussing the data
      Where are we getting our news from?
      Galactic Encompassment
      The Hub Of Hologram Dimensions

      A Life Sentence Ending in a Death Sentence
      Concern
      I Will
      Do Something About It
      Delightful Anticipation

      The Source of All Creation
      James DP Book Introduction:
      Placebo Effect
      Brave
      Nurture

      Your World F2+F4
      The Sensation of God's Presence Inside Us
      Builders
      Common Ground
      Extravaganza

      Is That A Tear In Your Eye?
      Always
      Map
      False Accusations
      The House Of Politics

      The Object
      Belief Helps Cause Separation
      What Is Normal
      All That We Are.
      Teaching

      Awake
      Shallow
      From The Source
      Serendipity
      For A Particular Reason

      Micro Reflections of a Macro Reality
      I love you
      Complete
      Intimation
      Test The Waters

      ...Standstill Contemplate
      The God of The Bible
      Measurements
      Avet
      God1

      Stuff Happens
      Lift
      Love Unconditionally
      20/20
      The Art

      Act With The Situation Rather Than Against It
      Great Apes!
      Overwhelming
      You Love I Know
      Information

      It Stands To Reason
      God’s Love
      Ghost In The Machine
      In Cell 32 I Found Love In You
      Outposts of Form

      Integral Network
      What the seed holds
      On The Other Hand...
      In Human Form
      The Divine Spiritual Family

      Green Light
      You Tube
      Human Mind System
      The Sun
      Identify oppressive structures...

      Share That
      Time And Space
      The Blank-Slate Borderlines
      Listen
      Looking into the science of Astral Projection

      Cloudy
      Episteme
      Motivating
      Spiritual Food
      The Gem

      Learn
      Co creation
      Talk
      Preparation
      Watchful

      Purring
      The Mystic Forest
      Mysterious process
      Soul Groups
      We go through together

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      Thank you for sharing your wonderful system.

      Any insight from your system on what will happen when we die?

      And today's shell says "Integrity". There was another shell, but, I couldn't read the letters anymore. I had to pull another.
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      Verdant: (of countryside) green with grass or other rich vegetation.
      Conformal cyclic cosmology the idea that you have a Big Bang, the universe expands, then contracts, and collapses in a Big Crunch which leads to another Big Bang.
      Infinite Quantum Zen: Awakening From the Dream of Life is something that takes place within each of us whenever we are ready to remember our eternal nature, whenever we are ready to take that first step in remembering who we are at the deepest level of our being, whenever we are ready to know our core essence as Spirit.
      Aeon: "age" in the sense of "ages", "forever", "timeless" or "for eternity".
      Interoperate : work in conjunction with each other.
      Preternatural: beyond what is normal or natural.
      (Choose Three In A Row): I continue selecting first and last line-entries of each page + select the three line-entries under the first page line entry =5 line entries – note I edited GM to add two line entries under “Delineating” [Searching For The Truth & Each To Their Own]
      Delineating: describe or portray (something) precisely.
      Idiosyncratic peculiar or individual.
      Cymatics] physics. the study of wave phenomena, esp sound, and their visual representations.
      James DP Book Introduction:
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      Episteme: philosophical term that refers to a principled system of understanding; scientific knowledge.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream View Post
      Thank you for sharing your wonderful system.
      You're welcome MD.

      Quote Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream View Post
      Any insight from your system on what will happen when we die?
      We continue to live....



      Quote Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream View Post
      And today's shell says "Integrity". There was another shell, but, I couldn't read the letters anymore. I had to pull another.
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      The Human Being
      Source Codes
      Have One For Me
      Apotheosis
      The Third Eye
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      Innermost
      Source Codes
      Materialist
      Rainstorm
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      I trust you are compiling your own Name2Number List and adding these results to them...

      It is a fun thing to do.
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      Quote Originally Posted by VVilliam View Post
      I trust you are compiling your own Name2Number List and adding these results to them...

      It is a fun thing to do.
      Oh I wanted to. When I saw how much work was involved I balked.

      "Materialist
      Rainstorm
      Adjustment"

      I'm buying too many beads. I know this. I love beautiful stones for making jewelry. But I'm being excessive. I need a rainstorm (sad, crying) to help me make adjustment. Or maybe I will heed this now, and make the adjustment without the rainstorm. It's sooo hard. ;P

      Would you look my name? It's Hilary.

      Thank you <3
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      @thel:

      I don't blame you, thel. Carl Jung isn't particularly easy to read and I have always found his psychological friend and colleague Marie-Louise Von Franz much easier to swallow. Jung had no choice but to focus on the details of ancient religious traditions and cultural expressions in order to refine his theory of the collective unconscious—and his work on it is quite extensive and delving into alchemy and astrology as a means to grasp humankind's evolving psychology. What I posted above is actually my own summary of his devilish details in Aion symbolically describing the tail-eating snake/dragon (Ouroboros) as analogous to the formation of the world and the development of consciousness and the potential for the Self to individuate. The trouble is that humans have always told stories riddled with symbolism and narratives that betray psychical truths. Jung couldn't get away from it if he tried. But if you are interested in watered down Jungian concepts and Buddhist ideas of enlightenment, Alan Watts is a good source.

      @VVilliam:

      This string of words are also relatable, too, beyond the Barnum effect in fact! It is impressive and thank you for that—and no, I haven't created my own CL (I've been lazy) but you have been a great shepherd!

      By the way, I don't know if you realised but what you created resembles a mandala—Jung believed mandalas symbolised psychological and spiritual health with the Self at the centre. The philosopher's stone was sought by alchemists and Jung was very much aware of how emotionally affected they were by the elements they experimented with and the golden culmination they were after which is analogous to what we seek within ourselves—we seek God! The pyramids of Egypt stood as a reminder for a hierarchy of values with the highest (which is an end and not a means to anything else) at the top; it is no coincidence that pyramidia were made of gold.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream View Post
      Oh I wanted to. When I saw how much work was involved I balked.

      "Materialist
      Rainstorm
      Adjustment"

      I'm buying too many beads. I know this. I love beautiful stones for making jewelry. But I'm being excessive. I need a rainstorm (sad, crying) to help me make adjustment. Or maybe I will heed this now, and make the adjustment without the rainstorm. It's sooo hard. ;P

      Would you look my name? It's Hilary.

      Thank you <3
      The work has to be done for the reward to make an impact - that's not me growling because I know how much work I have done to get the system to a state of presentation.
      I am happy to share my documents with others, if it means that this would kick-start them to work with the systems and add their own findings to the collective data-base...because it is one thing for me to present what I have, and another to have others who are willing to do the work and publish their results as a means of replication - because replication is fundamental to proving the science - re peer review.

      So - Hillary - have a think about it and let me know.

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      Quote Originally Posted by VVilliam View Post
      The work has to be done for the reward to make an impact - that's not me growling because I know how much work I have done to get the system to a state of presentation.
      I am happy to share my documents with others, if it means that this would kick-start them to work with the systems and add their own findings to the collective data-base...because it is one thing for me to present what I have, and another to have others who are willing to do the work and publish their results as a means of replication - because replication is fundamental to proving the science - re peer review.

      So - Hillary - have a think about it and let me know.
      I would love to help. Thank you for offering to share.
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      This string of words are also relatable, too, beyond the Barnum effect in fact! It is impressive and thank you for that—and no, I haven't created my own CL (I've been lazy) but you have been a great shepherd!
      I am looking for interested parties in order to do the replication process, as I mentioned in my reply to MD.

      It is one thing to be a shepherd and another to help others be shepherds.

      The GMs appear to be calling for that as well...

      The more evidence theists can provide for the doubting skeptical sector, the better...at least I think so...

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream View Post
      I would love to help. Thank you for offering to share.
      That is encouraging for sure.

      I would suppose that there is a way to get the documentation to you. As I think I mentioned - I use MS Word as the processing software. Are you able to work with that?

      I think I can create pdf's which can be used with any other word-processing software...this is new to me so if anyone has suggestions on the best way I can deliver documents here, please advise.
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      Quote Originally Posted by VVilliam View Post
      That is encouraging for sure.

      I would suppose that there is a way to get the documentation to you. As I think I mentioned - I use MS Word as the processing software. Are you able to work with that?

      I think I can create pdf's which can be used with any other word-processing software...this is new to me so if anyone has suggestions on the best way I can deliver documents here, please advise.
      Believe it or not, I really consider this a gift. I would like help if I can. Maybe being able to provide you with the new entries I put in? I'm not sure if you would want that, you might be picky about the entries, and I understand if that's so.. but, I'd like to give back.

      I can work with MS Word.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream View Post
      Believe it or not, I really consider this a gift. I would like help if I can. Maybe being able to provide you with the new entries I put in? I'm not sure if you would want that, you might be picky about the entries, and I understand if that's so.. but, I'd like to give back.

      I can work with MS Word.
      Yes _ I am always keen for new entries and will likely uplift them from any GMs you produce and publish as well, just as I mentioned in post #28 re what Summerlander had written.

      The more the merrier - as the saying goes.

      I do understand that what we place on our ComLists are akin to journaling and revealing for that, but it is all good intention, so no probs with that.

      In my position I can answer any questions related to my ComList that you might have, but would ask that you use it as a whole even if you do not understand any of the line entries - you can either ask me about that or even assign your own meaning to them - or both...

      Also - there are a number of links in the line entries, and links are wonderful means made available for the Higher Self to direct us towards as part of the communion process.

      The Communion Process. = 245
      The Source of All Creation
      Ultimate expression
      Invisible pink unicorn
      Your place at the Fireside
      We go through together
      The Eternal Authority

      The more the merrier - as the saying goes. = 377
      Preparation is willingness to change
      Something does not come from nothing.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream View Post
      Believe it or not, I really consider this a gift.
      That is how I saw it as being too. A gift. Something that The Higher Self hinted at, and we worked to uncover the details of.
      Sharing is part of that process.
      Gifts to give.



      I would like help if I can.

      I think that would be a gift too.

      Maybe being able to provide you with the new entries I put in?
      Yes - like a great return on investment.

      I'm not sure if you would want that, you might be picky about the entries, and I understand if that's so.. but, I'd like to give back.
      Yes - in thinking about my previous reply, it doesn't help to be precious about such things. Your list is your list and my list given to you is simply getting things started so that you already have something to work with and can add to that, what you will.
      I figure there will be some entries which you would have no problem with deleting from the original list I give to you. That would be acceptable re the science, I think.
      Re the links - I would encourage you to keep these, as they direct to information which can broaden the context of the GM, remarkably.


      I can work with MS Word.
      That is great. Now to find a way to get these docs to you.


      Gifts to give = 139
      Transition
      Inclinations
      The Love Heart

      Sharing is part of that process = 324
      Exhibit your innermost core
      Panpsychist Science Can Be Fun Too
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      One Seven Zero Two Two Two = 337
      [~]


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      AP="The Angel of the Lord"

      RSP="Type numbers" [quickly taping fingers on number keys] and then doing ones, tens, hundreds and thousands...as follows;

      84902658392


      9:26

      GM


      8. Write a Book
      4. This Speaks of....
      9. Conception
      2. Imagination
      6. Extra Sensory Perception
      5. Intelligence
      8. Write a Book
      3. Fear Of The Unknown
      9. Conception
      2. Imagination

      84902658392

      84. Wait for the Navigator to respond...
      49. Learn Well
      90. Keep me in The Loop
      2. Imagination
      26. Yes We Can
      65. 20/20
      58. We Are Us
      83. There Is More To The Silence Than Meets The Ear
      39. Raises Glass To A Toast
      92. Delirious
      28. Machiavellian

      84902658392

      849. Most
      490. I'm Okay With That
      902. We shape our opinions and morals through understanding that we are here for that reason.
      265. A Purpose
      658. From Prison To Paradise
      583. Central Intelligence Agency
      839. The Face of God
      392. Subconscious
      928. Hide and Seek

      84902658392
      [ComList has 2702 line entries]

      2658. Sound holographically organized to make things look real.

      9:47
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      ^ Wow. That's amazing. You can see the messages in there.

      I find it interesting how the end of the second message involving a toast (alcohol, pride) then leads to "Delirious" of all things, and Machiavellian, as pride can also lead to these things. But, then going into the third set, the universe is mostly OK with it, because we shape our morals through understanding that we're here for a reason. Then suddenly, the next line is "Purpose". Wow. Our purpose to change Earth from a prison to paradise perhaps? Amazing, truly amazing.


      Hilary = 73
      Forum
      Children
      Childlike
      Paradise
      Aligning
      EZPZ
      Union
      Perfect
      Pulse
      Patience
      The Mind

      So, I do love this forum, and that is how we are interacting today. However, my purpose, as told to me by my Moldavite crystal and also dream guides, is to help the children of this planet. According to my crystal "Nothing else matters". Also told to me by my own soul . So, children makes a lot of sense. I am child-like in the sense that I have never lost the awe and wonder that life presents. And, that I am very connected to my emotions, which is something children are particularly good at, while adults struggle with. I live in a paradise, I suppose, being in South Florida, and I try to live my life in alignment with my values. I am patient. The rest.. well... who knows?

      Looking at this again:

      Integrity = 127
      The Human Being
      Source Codes
      Have One For Me
      Apotheosis
      The Third Eye
      Intelligent
      Innermost
      Source Codes
      Materialist
      Rainstorm
      Adjustment


      I appreciate that the Source Codes have one for me, and they seem kind in the next few lines. The last three again, I was thinking. Could be about what I mentioned above, but it could be deeper, having to do with a particular life challenge I've had this lifetime. I was married for over a decade to a man who made a lot of money. I stayed in a toxic relationship because of my materialistic side, not wanting to give up my wealth. However, that only lead to rainstorms. I have since made an adjustment, and now live my life more authentically (with more ... integrity).


      Today's shell is "Believe". I can say, I am definitely believing in this. Perhaps it has to do with something else, but I will take the advice all the same.
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      You Have That Gleam In Your Eye
      Yep - That's What I'm Talking About...
      A Teacher cannot LEARN for a Student.
      It requires corrective action


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      AP="Sing!"

      RSP=every 321 line entry.

      6:31
      321. As useful as griffonage
      642. Realm of Remembrance
      963. Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
      1284. GameMakers
      1605. The Nature of Role-Play Within Story-Lines
      1926. Do It For Oneself
      2247. A Loving Heart
      2568. Put That On The List
      2702. State Of Being
      2889 - 2702 =187
      187. Meeting an Extraterrestrial

      6:42

      SCLx6

      RSP= 2xP&P LE re last GM
      Sing!
      As useful as griffonage
      Realm of Remembrance
      Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
      GameMakers
      The Nature of Role-Play Within Story-Lines
      Do It For Oneself
      A Loving Heart
      Put That On The List
      State Of Being
      Meeting an Extraterrestrial


      AP= "One"

      7:11
      Crop Circles
      The Big Shift
      Sing!
      GOD
      It brought a tear to the eye of my heart.

      How is it 'logical' to assume 'magic' when magic is the very thing which proposes something coming from nothing?
      Natural
      As useful as griffonage
      Contumacious
      What Is Found Here

      The Real Spiritual
      The Science Of The Soul
      Realm of Remembrance
      Uncertainty Principle
      Somewhere

      Integrating Integrity
      Bandage
      Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
      Disagreeable
      Become more expansive

      To Accomplish
      16-20-12-09-03-11-08
      GameMakers
      Sharing Your Love Without Comparison
      Big

      Jung-Animus
      Ordinary
      The Nature of Role-Play Within Story-Lines
      Reason
      Solving Mathematical Problems

      Any Other Way.
      Truth Seekers
      Do It For Oneself
      Aligning With WingMakers
      Sophophilic

      Origins
      Inclinations
      A Loving Heart
      Nothing comes from nothing - everything which can be seen to have a beginning comes from something.
      Our Neutral Ground

      Particular
      Your World F2+F4
      Put That On The List
      Create Your Own UFO
      Tied To The Moon

      Unfolding Status Quo
      Ensure
      State Of Being
      The Earth Entity
      The Heart Of The Soul Is Innocence

      Descriptive
      Said Another Way
      Meeting an Extraterrestrial
      We Groove Together
      Imperishable

      718
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      DREAMS ARE FREE
      190222

      My dreams are often really long and involved, and I know I dream every night.

      Last night I was in what I would call my 'dream village' which is modelled on an actual village I once lived in.
      I go there often, and things can get really busy with exchanges happening with many different of the dream characters, some who are modelled on actual folk I interacted with in the village when I lived there.

      I had been in the village for quite some time, and was walking down the foot-path when someone yelled "fire" and sirens went off and movement towards a particular area of the village - as I write this - I am reminded of when I lived in that village and actually saw smoke coming from a shop, and raised the alarm...in my dream I moved with others - I could sense other folk moving toward a particular part of the village - on a road leading toward a house I once rented - but there was no smoke to see...and as I thought this, suddenly smoke could be seen, only it wasn't like house-fire smoke but more like mist, and from the mist a figure appeared which turned out to be the owner of the hose I had rented.

      I was happy to see her - or glad that the fire had turned out to be a false alarm - or both - I am not sure, but I hugged her and asked how she was doing.
      She seemed a little taken aback by my hugging her, but the exchange quickly ended as another exchange began to take place...

      There was a house across the road which was having a party, and I invited myself in. I got the feeling it was a wake of some kind, but everyone was enjoying themselves [or so it appeared] and there were characters there whom I recognized, one person - in particular - who was sitting at the table with about six other characters.

      This person was someone who never lived in this village but whom I had meet in another village. We shook hands and then my attention was turned toward an elderly man at the head of the table, who - after getting my attention - motioned me over to him.

      I bent down and he whispered to me something along the lines of "I don't remember inviting you" and I replied that I hadn't been invited and he told me I should f-off then - not so much in a nasty way - but more in a way that revealed the gravity of my not being invited and he kept the smile on his face, not wanting to show the others that gravity in order not to bring the mood of the party down.

      His face reminded me of the actor...Brian Dennehy...and I sensed no malice in his request...

      I think there were some exchanges with others in the house before I left, and back out on the street, I heard someone behind me, and turning, I saw this young lady dressed in dark attire and looking witchy.
      As she moved toward me, I became aware of another lady coming around a corner - someone I had known who had also lived in the village and who was also dressed witchy.

      The first lady appeared to try and screen me from the second woman's sight, by moving in front of me as I moved toward her - but we managed to engage briefly, and then she went into the party house.

      I started moving toward a large factory building where things got a little blurry - I think it was applying for a job there.

      A woman there approached me and she had the demeanour of someone who distained folk beneath her own station...being abrupt and talking down at me - she was the factory owner and told me to follow her and she started to show me the whole lay-out of the factory.

      The further into the factory workings we got - the more questions I asked, and our exchange took on a life of its own, until - we reached a place which was blocked off by a solid wall of corrugated iron and she told me to go in – it was her office - or words to that effect and so I figured that there must be some kind of hidden entrance and soon found it in the form of a curtain which looked like part of the corrugated iron.

      Once inside, we became very relaxed with one another, and this turned into a sexual vibe...very consensual in nature...but we were interrupted early [while still dress] by a scene change as my ex came out of the background and saw what was going on...

      I followed my ex and explained to her that what was happening was quite natural and necessary and showed her the reason why - which involved me having to travel and I pulled out some kind of technology which unfolded into a type of holographic display, and once she saw this evidence, she relaxed and appeared quite supportive and encouraging.

      This exchange with my ex, was viewed by me in the third person - I was watching it happen from an observers pov.

      Then I had the sense I was analysing what had happened in the dream experience while still being in the dream - perhaps sitting in a dark room - I had the sense of there being a team, and had flashes of pieces of cake being manifested for every aspect of the dream analysis that I got correct and then one thing I said - something to do with a behind the scene "Dream Team" which coordinated my dream experiences was rewarded with the image of a giant piece of cake...then there was talk about the message generating process and word-values as I began to awaken...

      I got up, thought about my dream, and decided to write it down...and even as I have been writing it down here - in doing so, I find myself remembering things about it and adding these details in the writing.
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      One Nine Zero Two Two Two = 314
      Intelligence Without Wisdom


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      RSP=pg up & pg dn key tapping interspersed with up & down arrow key tapping.

      5:50

      Duty Calls
      'Test The Waters'
      Neurotransmitters
      Live With
      Is
      In relation to eternity, 'when' is always a potential.
      Discipline
      Reality
      Beautiful
      Integrate
      Shuussssh
      Six Heart Virtues
      Intransigent
      Failure
      The Garden Path
      Expression of Appreciation of Experience
      Avatar
      Mutual Dutiful Expression
      Panpsychist
      Through The Unconscious Mind
      Standstill Contemplate
      Elude
      The Master ColdFire Trick
      Theory
      The relationship between sound and formation re The Universe's existence.
      Cub
      Energies Renewed
      Circle
      Degrees
      Quiet
      Shucks!
      Conviction
      Rest When Weary
      The Sign On The Door Clearly States The Rules
      Eternal Passion!
      For Your Greater Enjoyment
      Is the statement one of fact or conjecture? [science or opinion]
      In William's Room
      Varying
      Slaughter
      Earth teachers (physical and non-physical) unite humanity to the Sovereign Integral
      Learning To Fly
      Get The Gist Of It
      God is Consciousness

      6:02
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      6:16

      The Cat Drone
      Command
      Aligning With
      Evidence We Actively Collect
      Salinas crop circle
      We are important to their enquiry
      Carl Jung

      Answer
      As An Elemental Principle
      Galactic Encompassment
      Duty Calls
      Children
      Help Each Other
      REAL Friendship

      Power
      Moon
      You Are
      'Test The Waters'
      Te Ramanujan Machine
      Surface Scratching
      This Should Be Interesting

      Context
      Confusion In The Air
      Anti Christ
      Neurotransmitters
      Couple
      It Was Tough Going, But Rewarding All The Same.
      The Round Stone

      Archangel
      Observing Without Judgement
      Copenhagen Interpretation
      Live With
      Making The Best of a Bad Situation
      Heroes and Villains

      Panentheism
      Assigned
      One's thoughts
      Is
      Nothing comes from nothing - everything which can be seen to have a beginning comes from something.
      Spiritual Connection
      https://www.cia.gov/library/readingr...00210016-5.pdf

      Great Apes!
      Is That A Tear In Your Eye?
      Honest
      In relation to eternity, 'when' is always a potential.
      Crazy
      Self Awareness
      Giving Energy Increases Ones Synchronistic Experiences

      Tetrad
      Opening Doors Easy To Find
      Earn
      Discipline
      Mission
      Creator Influence Syndrome
      Opening Doors

      Final Destination
      Learn
      Awesome
      Reality
      Transposing
      Watch Your Step
      Large Hadron Collider

      Large Hadron Collider
      Potential
      Apparent Contradictions in Relation to Biblical Beliefs
      Beautiful
      Consensus Realities
      Influence

      Mantra
      Eisegeting
      Redefinition of the Human Being
      Integrate
      Not Right
      Author
      Callum at the Campfire

      For The Best Results
      Platonic Solids
      The sort of evidence a sceptic calls for in relation to the subject of Intelligent Design.
      Shuussssh
      First Source:
      Tetragrammaton
      https://www.dreamviews.com/religion-...ml#post2245862

      Adjusted Reality
      Fireside Metaphor
      Perceived Obsolescence
      Six Heart Virtues
      The Journey To Apotheosis
      Innermost
      Gateway

      Good and Evil
      Eigengrau
      Exploring
      Intransigent
      Border
      Search
      Coming From QueenBee

      Homeostasis
      Common Ground
      The Dohrman Prophesy
      Failure
      Politics
      Future Self
      Musing On The Mother Act I

      What Is Friendship
      Habit
      WingMakers
      The Garden Path
      Doubt
      ...Standstill Contemplate
      Random coincidence? I think not.

      Elucidate
      Construct
      We Exist Infinitely
      Expression of Appreciation of Experience
      Believe You Me
      Like a Well Oiled Machine
      Seductive Light

      The Police
      The outward expression of an inward reality.
      Inspection
      Avatar
      Teddy Naysayer
      Mixture
      The Science Of The Soul

      "Avatar" is duplicated on the shuffled list

      Sound holographically organized to make things look real
      Unprecedented
      Keeping Things In Perspective
      Avatar
      Makes Candles Look Gathered
      Thread about all things
      The Chestahedron

      Do you believe astrology works
      The Script Must Be Followed
      Church Bells
      Mutual Dutiful Expression
      Duality.
      A Drop of Consciousness in an Ocean of Tears
      When One is Feeling Tired

      Argument
      Consider This
      A Bridge Over Time
      Panpsychist
      Ill
      Lots More
      Active

      Try
      Parchment
      Through The Unconscious Mind
      The Kingdom of God on Earth in this universe
      Wishful Thinking
      Vocables

      Many varied opinions
      Foresee/Foresight
      Fun/Joy
      Standstill Contemplate
      Philo2
      Transactional
      Necessity is The Mother of Invention

      Wise
      QueenBee
      Looking After Poor People
      Elude
      The Purple Heart medal
      Your Move
      Conceivable

      Hyper-normalisation
      F4
      Arms Crossed
      The Master ColdFire Trick
      Foreign Accent Syndrome
      Love Your Life
      Camelot

      Intuit
      Copy
      Matrix
      Theory
      In The Rabbit Hole
      Shucks!
      Yep - That's What I'm Talking About...

      An Eternal Entity Consciousness
      Categorising Knowledge in Terms of 'Good' or 'Evil'
      For Your Greater Enjoyment
      The relationship between sound and formation re The Universe's existence.
      Inalienable
      Sleep
      Source Codes

      A Bright Star
      Have A Look At This And See What You Come Up With
      Does that beam light into the dark, or surround the light in darkness?
      Cub
      Circle
      Inspiration
      Pervasive

      All The Same
      The Soul Eats Experience
      Always Vigilant
      Energies Renewed
      Feelings Perceptions, and Behavior
      Smarter Than the Average
      The Bridge of Forgiveness

      Have A Look At This And See What You Come Up With
      Does that beam light into the dark, or surround the light in darkness?
      Cub
      Circle
      Inspiration
      Pervasive
      The Spirit of the Land

      A defunct debate
      A Mixture
      Further
      Degrees
      Make It Up As You Go Along
      The Machinery
      Do You Know This?

      Phasing
      Stuff Happens
      Knowledge Speaks, Wisdom Hears
      Quiet
      Delineating
      The Mother
      The Mystic Forest

      Matrix
      Theory
      In The Rabbit Hole
      Shucks!
      Yep - That's What I'm Talking About...
      ET and the notion of GODs
      AQAL

      A Pragmatic Realization Precipitated In Ones Mind
      Rainstorm
      Conviction
      Realization
      Volunteer
      Shoe


      This Is Part Of The Job
      Super Power
      Dogmatic Attitude
      Rest When Weary
      Consciousness itself is fundamental to all our virtual realities
      The Minds Eye
      Sometimes the simplest explanations are the best...

      Communication
      Chamber Of Self
      Dimensional Crossovers
      The Sign On The Door Clearly States The Rules
      How are we to react in relation to our choices?
      Ghost Dance
      If we Judge, we will be Judged.

      All Information Is Channelled
      Raises Glass To A Toast
      The Torturous Treacherous Path
      Eternal Passion!
      ...and the way forward, eyes wide open
      Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
      Dichotomy

      Illusion
      An Eternal Entity Consciousness
      Categorising Knowledge in Terms of 'Good' or 'Evil'
      For Your Greater Enjoyment
      The relationship between sound and formation re The Universe's existence.
      Inalienable
      Sleep

      Planned obsolescence
      Fly
      Suppression Matrix
      Is the statement one of fact or conjecture? [science or opinion]
      The Vast UICDevice
      Pragmatic
      "In thinking more about that truly unknown thing called the sub or unconscious aspect of ourselves, I found myself thinking that we are to it, what our shadow is to us"

      Investigative
      Strength/Strong
      Good Intentions
      In William's Room
      Remove the phenomena and apply science
      Intelligence with Wisdom
      Livingstone Hall

      On To It
      Ancient Grey Entity
      Humans are programmed to become integrated with technology
      Varying
      William Say's:
      Fugacious
      Make It Up AS You Go Along

      First Things First
      What Is Friendship?
      Something In The Way of It All
      Slaughter
      Significant
      There is nothing wrong with 'disorder' other than one interpreting the universe as disorderly.
      Universal Belief System

      Body Intelligence
      Sustainability
      Science and Spirituality
      Earth teachers (physical and non-physical) unite humanity to the Sovereign Integral
      Abrahamic Religions
      Investigative
      Strength/Strong

      Breakthrough
      Symbols
      Opposing forces which define each other by necessity
      Learning To Fly
      The Shaping Of Reality
      Experiences.
      The Earth Entity

      Is quite congruous with Jung's ideas centring around individuation.
      Computer Coding
      Victim
      Get The Gist Of It
      The Story Continues - The Flow Is On
      Incarnation
      Animistic

      You Trust My Navigation
      The Creator
      Group/Family
      God is Consciousness
      Imposed Appropriates
      Effectively
      The Purpose Of Life Is...

      [last entry on SCL ="Respect"]

      6:49
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      Quote Originally Posted by thel View Post
      Hey VVilliam, i have some things im curious about, i wanted to ask you before but i was very busy this week. I tend, and i think you too, to value methods of knowledge for their capacity to be trusted/believed, as its a requirement for the person to become more conscious/wiser/better person, etc. (tell me if you disagree)
      So, as your method is different from everything else, i need to ask you about it as the creator of it! How much convinced you are on the method? How did it improve yourself after the years? Do you think that a personal evolution based on the method has some limits, or in other words, the method itself has a limited amount of personal improvement? If so, do you think there are better ones? And, what are your current objectives regarding it?

      I know it may be a bunch of questions and im sorry about thatFeel free to skip some or taking your time.
      Hi thel

      Thank you for your questions.
      I am 100% convinced on the method.
      The improvements this communion created in my life were…life changing ones – my world view has substantially shifted from the first time I used the communication system [message generating] a shift in paradigms and leaving the old unproven stuff behind – or at least placed to one side until evidence comes along…
      There is no limit to personal improvement – perfection is a relative ideal.
      There may be better systems, but if they are, these remain hidden from my knowledge at this point, and that is fine by me, because at least I do have something substantial to work with.
      My ongoing objective is to get this knowledge out into the public domain…even if that only means getting folk in online forums to have a look into it.


      Having answered your questions in brief - I will now expand a little.

      The latest rather long GM in post #47 speaks almost entirely of what effect the use of this system has had on me...reminding me of how it all started and the different stages I went through.

      The Cat Drone
      Command
      Aligning With
      Evidence We Actively Collect
      Speaks to an invisible connection [drone/command] and aligning oneself with that as the evidence for its reality is actively collected.

      Duty Calls
      Children
      Help Each Other
      REAL Friendship
      The duty is worthy of our compliance.

      Opening Doors Easy To Find
      Earn
      Discipline
      Mission
      Creator Influence Syndrome
      Opening Doors
      Needs no explanation...

      Final Destination
      Learn
      Awesome
      Reality
      Goes some way in answering your question "Do you think that a personal evolution based on the method has some limits, or in other words, the method itself has a limited amount of personal improvement?" as do:

      Six Heart Virtues
      The Journey To Apotheosis
      Innermost
      Gateway
      And the result of the communion is contact;

      Communication
      Chamber Of Self
      Dimensional Crossovers
      The following speaks of my initial approach to the communion and ongoing personal development;

      Investigative
      Strength/Strong
      Good Intentions
      In William's Room
      Remove the phenomena and apply science
      Intelligence with Wisdom
      Livingstone Hall
      Livingstone Hall is where this all began to take positive shape.

      The following speak of developing the connection and dealing with [by putting to death] such things which were in the way of developing said relationship

      First Things First
      What Is Friendship?
      Something In The Way of It All
      Slaughter
      Significant
      and finally;

      You Trust My Navigation
      The Creator
      Group/Family
      God is Consciousness
      Imposed Appropriates
      Effectively
      The Purpose Of Life Is...
      Respect
      Speaks for itself...

      The importance of this system is also in that it uses scientific process to validate ones subjective experience - something most scientific processes steer away from, as they are more focused upon the validation of objective reality and view subjective experience as with suspicion - quite rightly so as such experience is hard to validate and is often viewed as dangerous due to how folk on the fringes behave - such as developing suicide cults based upon belief systems which cannot be scientifically examined other than the results which often are negative and damaging in the nature of outcome.

      The Message Generating system provide the individual with ways in which to scrutinized, adopt, and adapt as called for. It allows for the invisible conscious reality to speak for itself in relation to the individual - form relationship and build upon that - giving the individual a place of knowing that their subjective experience is valid and purposeful in relation to said overarching mind...as IT speaks for itself in relation to the individual and the individual respond by humbly bowing to that Mind as being more knowing, wise, and trustworthy...
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      Hey there William. Thank you for sharing your documents with me. I am enjoying them very much.

      I wanted to let you know that I am adding many new words and phrases into the documents. I will share with you after I have added a decent amount. The idea here being that an outside perspective, with different energy, can bring us what we need for new growth. I hope to be a source of such energy. I have noticed that many of your terms have a focus on understanding our universe, existence, the divine, thinking, etc. The terms I am adding have a more inward (edit: or maybe better put, feeling) focus. I like to think of it as sun energy vs. moon energy. I hope you will like them.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream View Post
      Hey there William. Thank you for sharing your documents with me. I am enjoying them very much.

      I wanted to let you know that I am adding many new words and phrases into the documents. I will share with you after I have added a decent amount. The idea here being that an outside perspective, with different energy, can bring us what we need for new growth. I hope to be a source of such energy. I have noticed that many of your terms have a focus on understanding our universe, existence, the divine, thinking, etc. The terms I am adding have a more inward (edit: or maybe better put, feeling) focus. I like to think of it as sun energy vs. moon energy. I hope you will like them.
      Hi MD

      I look forward to seeing how your own input helps the process...I anticipate that this will prove to be helpful to the science.
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