Thread: Generating Messages and Numerical Word-Values

How cool this is. Thank you for sharing. I look forward to seeing more interesting messages that you receive in your explorations. A while ago, I took a bunch of beautiful Lettered & Golden Olive shells and painted them. Then, I wrote a word or phrase on each one, I had about 100 or so. Put them in a bag. The idea is that every day, I pick one out (today's is "Radiate"). I often forget to do it, though. That word or phrase is to guide me for the day. It's amazing. Anyway, not to detract from your system here. Love it.

Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream

How cool this is. Thank you for sharing. I look forward to seeing more interesting messages that you receive in your explorations. A while ago, I took a bunch of beautiful Lettered & Golden Olive shells and painted them. Then, I wrote a word or phrase on each one, I had about 100 or so. Put them in a bag. The idea is that every day, I pick one out (today's is "Radiate"). I often forget to do it, though. That word or phrase is to guide me for the day. It's amazing. Anyway, not to detract from your system here. Love it.

Radiate = 58
Science
Angels
Two
Design
Cheers!
Loved
Imagine
Night

Ongoing discussion about the validity and possible explanations regarding these communication techniques {LINK}

Just to let you know VVilliam, both of your source links in the original post seem to point to an incorrect hyperlink at the moment (seem to be linking back to this thread itself).

Originally Posted by DarkestDarkness

Just to let you know VVilliam, both of your source links in the original post seem to point to an incorrect hyperlink at the moment (seem to be linking back to this thread itself).

Thanks for that DD

It is sorted now.

Do we always have to start with the date? I need a bit of coaching here. What happens if I want to find out more about: Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. bearing in mind that I find his connections to China suspect. Can your system tell me more beyond the information (or misinformation) that is already out there about him? Should I also check China and Vladimir Putin which has also been on my mind?

I'm appending further to our discussion on 'The Eternal Authority' thread where we ended up at least agreeing that random events are not objectively real and the notion of randomness being a subjective expression which may even help us to differentiate between entropy and order; or, entropy as an opposite, help us to apprehend/define neat predictability.

I would also like to point out that a message is a type of communication inextricably linked to meaning and, according to your worldview, every single event that happens to us can be regarded as a 'message' (to us) because occurrences convey meaning in our minds. But what happens when we render events as absolutely trivial or meaningless because they simply do not speak to us? Are such even supposed to give dimension to what constitutes a real message as a deliberate act by the hypothetical cosmic mind?

Originally Posted by Summerlander

Do we always have to start with the date? I need a bit of coaching here. What happens if I want to find out more about: Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. bearing in mind that I find his connections to China suspect. Can your system tell me more beyond the information (or misinformation) that is already out there about him? Should I also check China and Vladimir Putin which has also been on my mind?

I don't personally have many famous or infamous names on my ComList - or countries etc, but mainly because my interests in politics is tiny, and I am interested in the Earth as a whole rather than as separate dominions...

Not to say that the world stage is not referred to, as there are other entries on my ComList which allow for the opportunity for the subject to be focused upon...

I did have Donald J Trump on my CL until recently - mainly because the word-string value was interesting to me - Donald J Trump = 148

Since the CL is a living document, one is free to choose whatever word-strings they want to.

This system tells the individual information - but how the individual interprets said information also has to be carefully considered.

My approach is to allow the immediate feel I intuit from a GM as it unfolds through the selection process - and not to place anything more significant on it than its face value - and I treat each GM as an ongoing conveyed message - so often I am going back over them, checking where duplicates come into play - The first GM in this thread is actually part of a series of GMs I have been recording and making public on a daily basis since 210122.

150222
One Five Zero Two Two Two = 314
Intelligence Without Wisdom

SCLx8

AP="People Judge People"

RSP=pg dn key + up/down arrow keys tap & P&P

6:41
Phasing
Copy
Educational

A Politically Manufactured Device
Lost In The Thought Of It All
Ouija

That's Powerful!
Become more expansive
Bridge

Believing in fearful imagery
"End Of Story" As The Saying Goes
Construct

Expression of Astonishment
Shallow is Unknown
Humans are programmed to become integrated with technology

Welcome
Is That A Tear In Your Eye?
Lyricus designs, transposes, and installs galactic Tributary Zones to a planetary system

Fearful Imaginations
Abiogenesis
Providence

Exobots
Clean
The Story of Cadriel

One By One
Pineal Gland
Thanatophobic

Crazy Diamonds
Indication
Exploring

Commendably Recommendable
Time To See
Taciturn

Lift
Repudiate
Key Of Expression

Transforming The Anger Energy
Coddiwomple
Minor Arcana

Wholeness
Extreme
Smart

We succeed as a permanent specie or we fail as a temporary one
The Plateau of The Same Page
People Judge People

6:48

So - re the intuitive I mentioned, as the message was generated, I am focused on the moment [say within the range of 15mins] and thus, my reading your post and replying - I was aware of the political aspects of our exchange and what we both wrote...the generated message reflects this as it is referring to the world stage...also I noted the duplicated word "Smart/Smarter" as something connected with the previous GM;

996. Yahweh
1328. Group/Family
1610. Smarter
1942. Watch Your Step

and;

Free! Free! Free!
Yahweh
One Whom Ought Be Inwardly Known

Free Choice Ends Here
Group/Family
Arcadian

Incorporate
Smarter
What Is Friendship?

Next I get about searching the words which I have not retained the meanings of. In this case;

Abiogenesis = the original evolution of life or living organisms from inorganic or inanimate substances.
Thanatophobia = an intense fear of death or dying.
Taciturn = (of a person) reserved or uncommunicative in speech; saying little.
Coddiwomple = to travel in a purposeful manner towards a vague destination

Thats a really cool method! I really dont know if its easy or hard to find a word and how much time it takes, so feel free to dont accept my request, but i would really want to search for these three words, and i probably wont be able to do that by myself If it doesnt constitute too much of an effort to you, here they are:
Wish
Will
Hipaea

What words used in GM signify to me.

Ouija = both "yes! Yes!" and also the ideomotor phenomenon
The Story of Cadriel = the significance in the idea of surnames
Crazy Diamonds = Individuals willing to examine the fringes...
Minor Arcana = Tarot related - in that, I open a document which list all the Tarot deck entries, and RSP a card from the Minor deck and search its meaning...
I randomize the Tarot list and will select LE 314

314. Knight of Wands

I then search for meaning re that card. action, adventure, fearlessness, upright, instigator, fire-starter, enjoys intense experiences, always ready to take it to the next level, quick to anger...

Thus

Transforming The Anger Energy
Coddiwomple
Minor Arcana

signifies that a such a personality moves through life in a purposeful manner towards a vague destination - somewhat with bravado in the face of the reality being experienced...

Originally Posted by thel

Thats a really cool method! I really dont know if its easy or hard to find a word and how much time it takes, so feel free to dont accept my request, but i would really want to search for these three words, and i probably wont be able to do that by myself If it doesnt constitute too much of an effort to you, here they are:
Wish
Will
Hipaea

I will assume that you are referring to the word values?

I have been building my N2N list for quite a while now - this process does take time but I am happy to share my data.

Wish = 59
Breathe
Where
Let Go
Cups
Copy
Braille

Will = 56
Induce
Three
Cult
Light
Mess
This
Level
Hush!
Recipe
Equal
Because
Be Born
Why
Agreeable
Wise
Sigil

Hipaea = 40
Habit
Food
Mind

One thing to remember, Summerlander, is that the meanings we receive may be beyond our understanding at this time. They may make sense later. Also, sometimes they just go over our heads. They can be subtle, they can be metaphorical.

It's like dreams. I believe ALL dreams have a message for us, should we be able to interpret them correctly. However, many dreams we don't understand.

Additionally, one thing I tend to believe is that the first message is the most important and relevant. The relevancy fades the farther out you go from that. At least, certainly with radio songs. Although that can depend on the emotional strength of the things you're thinking about, and how much attention you're devoting to it.

MoonageDaydream = 141

Ukulele Love = 141



Today's shell says "Honesty".

Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream

One thing to remember, Summerlander, is that the meanings we receive may be beyond our understanding at this time. They may make sense later. Also, sometimes they just go over our heads. They can be subtle, they can be metaphorical.

It's like dreams. I believe ALL dreams have a message for us, should we be able to interpret them correctly. However, many dreams we don't understand.

Additionally, one thing I tend to believe is that the first message is the most important and relevant. The relevancy fades the farther out you go from that. At least, certainly with radio songs. Although that can depend on the emotional strength of the things you're thinking about, and how much attention you're devoting to it.

MoonageDaydream = 141

Ukulele Love = 141



Today's shell says "Honesty".

So we have as recorded here, "Radiate Honesty"...

Honesty = 106

An Objective
Leave a Trail
In the open
Love Heart
Calculator
Metatron
Curious


Radiate Honesty = 164

Science Projects
Behind The Scenery
Seductive Light
Looking For Gigs
A Place To Create Art
Requirements
Thinking Allowed
Each to their own

[adding Radiate Honesty to my ComList...]

I'm starting to like this thread. I feel strangely drawn to checking the generation of words that ostensibly stir and provide direction to some kind of meaningful progression in my head. I'm not really anticipating a deep culmination per se, but the journey is fun for me and maybe that is the point. I think this will influence my dreams tonight for sure and I'm aiming for perhaps a WILD tomorrow morning. Sleep experiences sometimes have a latent impact in terms of meaning. Sometimes we don't make profound associations until later when it dawns on us (a kind of awakening). I have a funny feeling I'm about to meet my Wise Old Woman archetype in the form of MoonageDaydream (minus the 'Old') tonight. Sometimes we don't realise what we have been exposed to straight away. That's true. If I come up with more words with oneiric origins later on I might need VVilliam to navigate me through this message world again.

VVilliam = 100 (I'm getting there )

Originally Posted by VVilliam

So we have as recorded here, "Radiate Honesty"...

Honesty = 106

An Objective
Leave a Trail
In the open
Love Heart
Calculator
Metatron
Curious


Radiate Honesty = 164

Science Projects
Behind The Scenery
Seductive Light
Looking For Gigs
A Place To Create Art
Requirements
Thinking Allowed
Each to their own

[adding Radiate Honesty to my ComList...]

Wow.

Ok. Yes. I am looking for gigs. I am looking for a place to create art, musical art. I teach science, so maybe I should have my students do more projects? Independent thinking is important to me.. and each to their own - we're all allowed to have our own thoughts about things. I'm not sure about seductive light, but,

Originally Posted by Summerlander

I have a funny feeling I'm about to meet my Wise Old Woman archetype in the form of MoonageDaydream (minus the 'Old') tonight.

Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream

Additionally, one thing I tend to believe is that the first message is the most important and relevant. The relevancy fades the farther out you go from that. At least, certainly with radio songs. Although that can depend on the emotional strength of the things you're thinking about, and how much attention you're devoting to it.

I am not exactly sure what you are saying re "the first message is the most important"...from what I understand, the messages are ongoing [and as such, really should be called 'the message']

That is why each message starts with the Anchor Point [AP] as a type of subject matter to which the rest of the GM is focused - to date, I have the following as the APs for every GM I have published since Jan 25, 2022...

Anchor Points [to date]
On and off
Use Mind
Overseeing Director of Operations on Earth
Prison Planet
Event String Unfolding
In The Flow
I Know William
Your Own Individual Actions
Understanding
To Know
Stay The Course
Have A Look At The Map
Get The Ball Rolling
Act With The Situation Rather Than Against It
Realise
Dilemma
The Alien Disc crop circle
Collective Dynamics
Avatar
Key Of Expression
The Father
People Judge People

As can be seen, the APs also act together as a message... just as "Radiate Honesty" is a message.



What 'fades' may be the details - which can always be referred to if a record is kept - but the gist of what is being revealed in the messages stays strong...

Originally Posted by Summerlander

I'm starting to like this thread. I feel strangely drawn to checking the generation of words that ostensibly stir and provide direction to some kind of meaningful progression in my head. I'm not really anticipating a deep culmination per se, but the journey is fun for me and maybe that is the point. I think this will influence my dreams tonight for sure and I'm aiming for perhaps a WILD tomorrow morning. Sleep experiences sometimes have a latent impact in terms of meaning. Sometimes we don't make profound associations until later when it dawns on us (a kind of awakening). I have a funny feeling I'm about to meet my Wise Old Woman archetype in the form of MoonageDaydream (minus the 'Old') tonight. Sometimes we don't realise what we have been exposed to straight away. That's true. If I come up with more words with oneiric origins later on I might need VVilliam to navigate me through this message world again.

VVilliam = 100 (I'm getting there )

The journey is fun and maybe that is the point. = 459
Synchronicity and the Holographic Universe

Oneirology = 135
Simplicity
Speculation
The Life Essence
The Cosmic Mind

VVilliam = 100

Personal
Share That
Discipline
Adds Up To
Gypsies
Delineating
Eisegeting
Parousia
God and Satan
Twern't

Originally Posted by VVilliam

I am not exactly sure what you are saying re "the first message is the most important"...from what I understand, the messages are ongoing [and as such, really should be called 'the message']

With your message system it makes sense to have an ongoing stream. You may or may not agree, but what I mean is when you turn on the radio for example. The first song that plays (sometimes the second) often times has meaning relevant to your life. Synchronicity, beautiful. However, if you press the "Tune" button a bunch of times, channel surfing, you will find that other songs don't have as much of an obvious connection. You can go from an uplifting tune that resonates to a sad one, to a rap song, to dance music, etc. If you let it play on it's own, I think it's more relevant. Just my observations.

It's also like tarot cards. You can feel amazed or unhappy, depending on your results. Either way, the urge to do it again is strong. What will it say next time? Will it say what you want it to say? But the meaning is lessened the more we do it. We have to accept our first message, even if we don't always like it. I also think discipline is wise here. That's why I pull a shell only once a day. Practicing this sort of self-control makes it more meaningful. That, in turn, gives the process more emotional energy when we do do it. And, emotional energy (in my thinking) fuels synchronicity.

Just my thoughts.

Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream

With your message system it makes sense to have an ongoing stream. You may or may not agree, but what I mean is when you turn on the radio for example. The first song that plays (sometimes the second) often times has meaning relevant to your life. Synchronicity, beautiful. However, if you press the "Tune" button a bunch of times, channel surfing, you will find that other songs don't have as much of an obvious connection. You can go from an uplifting tune that resonates to a sad one, to a rap song, to dance music, etc. If you let it play on it's own, I think it's more relevant. Just my observations.

It's also like tarot cards. You can feel amazed or unhappy, depending on your results. Either way, the urge to do it again is strong. What will it say next time? Will it say what you want it to say? But the meaning is lessened the more we do it. We have to accept our first message, even if we don't always like it. I also think discipline is wise here. That's why I pull a shell only once a day. Practicing this sort of self-control makes it more meaningful. That, in turn, gives the process more emotional energy when we do do it. And, emotional energy (in my thinking) fuels synchronicity.

Just my thoughts.

Okay - thanks for the explanation - I understand what you are meaning and agree with that.

The reason I GM each day is because I am interested in what the Universal Mind has to say in relation to things which are oft times relevant to my situation and most times to do with the situation we all share - life in this universe - specific to the local environment of Earth.
I have been doing this for over 20 years, not always on a daily basis - and often I have had to take weeks off while I thought about what messages had revealed about my beliefs etc...things which were hard to let go of...

I understand what you are meaning and agree with that = 493
Different ways of supporting the same objective = 493

Originally Posted by VVilliam

Okay - thanks for the explanation - I understand what you are meaning and agree with that.

The reason I GM each day is because I am interested in what the Universal Mind has to say in relation to things which are oft times relevant to my situation and most times to do with the situation we all share - life in this universe - specific to the local environment of Earth.
I have been doing this for over 20 years, not always on a daily basis - and often I have had to take weeks off while I thought about what messages had revealed about my beliefs etc...things which were hard to let go of...

I don't think everyday is too much. Perhaps if you were doing it constantly? But then again, it depends on the results you're getting, I guess.

Originally Posted by VVilliam

I understand what you are meaning and agree with that = 493
Different ways of supporting the same objective = 493

Originally Posted by VVilliam

The journey is fun and maybe that is the point. = 459
Synchronicity and the Holographic Universe

Oneirology = 135
Simplicity
Speculation
The Life Essence
The Cosmic Mind

VVilliam = 100

Personal
Share That
Discipline
Adds Up To
Gypsies
Delineating
Eisegeting
Parousia
God and Satan
Twern't

I think I owe you some feedback about how the generated words pertain to my lived experience, VVilliam. As you know, analytical psychology is something I dabble in as Jung fascinates me far more than Freud, and synchronicity is a theory that the former developed with physicist Wolfgang Pauli despite being met with great scepticism in mainstream science. Funnily enough, it bears some relevance to what we have been discussing because it addresses things that relate in a meaningful way without any detectable causal connection—it alludes to hidden variables or, in the least, some kind of 'spooky action at a distance' less obvious than the confirmed reality of quantum entanglement.

The Holographic Universe is a theory that I explored years ago in depth but I still find intriguing. We could live inside a black hole as the 3D projections of its intricate 2D surface ... That's crazy! Oneirology is self-explanatory: I think the majority of us love this subject here seen as we are all into lucid dreaming. Simplicity reminds me of how I value Occam's razor as a tool to get to the bottom of conundrums during speculation and using epistemology as a compass. The Life Essence and The Cosmic Mind appears to summarise what's been recently discussed on my 'The Eternal Authority' thread—the former pertinent to dualism and the latter referring to God.

I share my personal thoughts guided by philosophical and scientific disciplines. I have recently listened to the French gypsy jazz guitarist Django Reinhardt. I have also been studying Jungian exegesis and Christian existentialism, proffering on the aforementioned thread that Christ is one of the faces of Joseph Campbell's hero archetype and what the resurrection of Christ means in psychological terms (Jungian Parousia). Much of the subject matter in Jung's Aion is underpinned by conflicting opposites, the coniunctio, the Yin and Yang, God and Satan—the former as the Telos and the latter as Ego possession and subsequent fall from grace. Tweren't = it were not—the Biblical parables, in my opinion, not having been actual or not historical, but rather, both psychological and a psychological reflection of reality in metaphorical format bound to repeat itself throughout the history of humankind.

Those words end up in my Name 2 Number document for the reason that they are of interest to me Summerlander - Jung is one such mentor who I feel is one of those "Crazy Diamonds" who chose to study the fringes instead of staying on the safe ground of Mainstream [secular] Science...and it may have been because he was a Jew and perhaps knew about Jewish mysticism...something from which the Major arcana Tarot owes its reason for being - although it may also have been the other way around - he embarked on his particular career choice and later saw the connect with Hebrew mysticism...

The only reference to him that I have on my ComList is "Jung-Animus"

I am not well read myself - which in a way is really neat for me because the thoughts which I have re my relationship with Higher Self [aka Cosmic mind] within my person, has lead me to many things which I later discover have been quite well established concepts in humanities adventure...which serve to confirm for me that the manner in which I got the info is legitimate...real...

The God and Satan word-string is reflective of dualism and not how I see the Universal Mind but representative of opposing dynamics wrought through concepts of good and evil oft mis-appraised by the judgmental and never easy to pin down as these ideas shift from culture to culture like ones mans junk is another mans treasure...


As such, these are archetypes confusingly superimposed upon images of "God" and "His" supposed enemies.

Whereas, Universal Mind is ONE and there is no 'other'... so any supposed naughty business can be traced back to that Source...

Yet there are still preferences in regard to us who are all but ignorant of the true nature of our reality and I think Universal Mind prefers we were 'good' to IT, Ourselves and One Another because this leads to better choices...

Jung-Animus = 129
Sounds Like
On The Same Page
Reminiscent
Vibrations
Changing it up

Humanities adventure = 229
God is Consciousness
What is the meaning of life?
Smarter Than the Average
Central To The Vision