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      I have been informed that in posting links I am breeching forum rules.

      Therefore, wherever a link is selected in the GM, I will quote from the link and if any reader wishes to verify that I am being honest, please PM me and ask me for the link under question and I will supply it.

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      "I am not one to disregard anything any more than I am one to accept on faith any claim.

      My interest is in the idea that consciousness has always been in the background noise and that the universe is a mindful creation, and mathematics only confirms that - not in what the mathematicians claim to understand about the universe, but in the very fact that they discovered this language inbuilt into the universe itself....just like every other language has also been built into the universe.
      Mathematics was not invented, it was discovered.

      Such cosmologists might even mock such an idea, having not thought to include in their equations any symbol for the mind.

      Even the use of unknown numbers imply missing data and therefore probable mis-interpretation.

      The existence of mathematics allows me to tick off one more piece of the puzzle. I am not so much interested in the creation as I am with connecting and maintaining said connection, with the Creator-Mind.

      I think the main barrier between the theists and the non-theists is that they believe diametrically different things about the mind, even to the point where it is simply a waste of time either party arguing about that."
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      The Realm of The Knowing of My Self
      I Think – Therefore – Who Do I Think I Am?
      Actions speak louder than words

      SCLx6+last LE per shuffle
      The Seed of Origin - Mahu Nahi - Meaningful - Pyramids of Giza - Hey! look at that! It's uncanny... - Degrees

      RSP = 2xSCL + re + P&P + last LE

      AP= Healing the child within

      12:25

      GM: Sensing A Life Mission
      LINK
      Apotheosis [the highest point in the development of something; a culmination or climax. the elevation of someone to divine status.]
      10 Insights
      Healing the child within
      The evolution of consciousness

      William: From The Link
      There are as many beliefs in "God" as there are humans who have beliefs in "God".

      It isn't so much how the individual dresses up their image of "God" that is important, but rather - that the idea of "God" in relation to the individuals experience [which can only be subjective] within this mysterious universe is as natural as the universe itself, and a perfectly acceptable thing for consciousness to be thinking about.
      So the universe could be described as a type of HERS specific for the creation of a GOD?
      [Holographic Experiential Reality Simulation] in that all consciousness interacting within the HERS - no at matter what level - are part of that process of 'becoming' - even that essentially some levels of consciousness are at that level already while others are not?

      GM: Have A Look At This And See What You Come Up With
      “Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all”
      The evolution of consciousness
      Is There Really Such a Thing as Random?
      Supernatural
      “I do not exist to troll for any religious idea of "GOD"”
      Healing The Beast
      Here Everything All Real Together
      Makes Candles Look Gathered
      Deconstruct The Message
      LINK

      William: From the link:

      It''s called intrinsicism, the idea that something is just good or bad or right or wrong or just or unjust, not for any reason or purpose, but because it just is. In the case of Christians, they cover up the absurdity that something can just be a value (good or bad) without being good or bad for anything, by saying values are dictated by their God. It amounts to turning the absurd notion that, "might makes right," into a doctrine.
      That seems to be somewhat twisted.

      While I do understand your concerns, ideas of good and evil are natural products of survival.
      While humans have insinuated that a Creator-God is real rather than imagined, it is only natural to include therein, that The Creator instilled this within the creation.

      Where the wheels get wobbly, is when morals [Laws] become fixed and immovable - not something that nature itself is - by attributing said Laws as "coming from The Creator".
      GM: Homeostasis [the tendency towards a relatively stable equilibrium between interdependent elements, especially as maintained by physiological processes.]
      We oppose deception
      Caught in their mischievous false opinions
      ...Standstill Contemplate
      LINK

      William: From the link
      The "initial state" seems to be out of the reach of being described in any accurate or meaningful manner.
      In that, it is no more or less better than the idea of an exclamation "let there be light" from an Intelligent Source being the Initial State.
      Plenty fair. Though one's gotta ponder what did it that thinking.
      That is a journey in itself and provides me with lifetime of interesting subjective experience re my own way of interreacting with and finding out about such a thinker...

      GM: Earth Mother
      Wakey Wakey
      Shining light
      I Know William
      The Old Soul
      Even that it took an actual mind operating with language, to make such a statement.
      LINK

      William: The link goes to a post where an individual is explaining to me that if I do not understand the Mathematics of Cosmology, I will never be able to understand the universe, and that the language of the mathematics cannot be translated into any human language...

      GM: The Hub Of Hologram Dimensions
      Consider This
      Bandage
      Your Best Self
      LINK

      William: From the link
      I am saying this universe contains evil regardless of whether it is the product of a creative mind or not. The existence evil, is a problem (because it is unexpected) for the thesis that it is the product of a creative mind; but not a problem for the thesis that it is a mindless happenstance (as there is no expectation with re: evil one way or the other.)
      Okay - thanks for clarifying.

      Given that it has been proven that true random does not exist, mindless happenstance is off the table as an 'explanation' for this existence.

      Therefore, IF this universe contains evil and is also the creation of a creative mind, why is it an 'unexpected problem'? What do you mean by that? Why should it matter one way but not the other?
      GM: The Physical Universe
      Completely
      Strength of Body
      The Lord
      Go slow
      Everything
      Opinions formed on very narrow fields of observation
      Lucifer
      Beckoning Places
      Nuremberg race laws
      Rule your world
      Friction
      Is there any such thing as 'Objective Morality'
      Dream Village
      Healing The Beast
      Yes, I Hear You
      Mirroring
      "Because the imagery is based in the genuine, in that The Ghost is acknowledged - dressing The Ghost through the use of imagery is an attempt to make The Ghost be seen."
      Be Nice Do Nice
      Fear of the Unknown
      The Path Of Faith
      Walking the walk
      The Path

      William: I walk the path I choose to make I never walked that path before
      Unchartered - free from fear I find a foothold firm and sure
      And boldly meet no obstacle, dark veil, sunlit hill and shining dale
      Safe and warm though storm and rage surround
      I move - I shall not fail.

      12:52

      Clownboat: I'm open to any of the gods being true. I currently don't find any justification for any of the god concepts to be acceptable. I very much do find purpose and meaning to my life though. I do feel sorry for those that are unable to find purpose and meaning in life without a god concept being involved. It is what is it though, and for such people, humans have invented god concepts as a treatment.
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      140422
      Expression of Astonishment

      SCLx10+last LE per shuffle

      And - Welcoming the Unwelcome - William's Commitment - Does Armageddon have to be? The answer is in you and me - Fulfilling Human Destiny - https://futurism.com/astrobiologists...Xv5yWsMOmGhBkY' - Human Mind System - Panpsychist - Solar Plexus - The idea is to connect with the Planet Mind in a conscious manner rather than an unconscious one or even a subconscious manner...

      RSP = 3xSCL + re + P&P + last LE

      AP= Copenhagen Interpretation

      7:34

      GM: Morning

      William: Morning

      GM: Copenhagen Interpretation
      Effectively
      What's The Problem?
      Consciousness Incarnates
      Vision
      Ripple Effect
      "It gives rise to a lot of speculative mythology unsuccessfully attempting to make the dots all connect."
      Jesus Christ
      Be
      Fugacious [tending to disappear; fleeting.]
      Encounter
      The naked truth
      Preternatural [beyond what is normal or natural.]
      The Mother
      Gods Gift
      Sort It Out

      William: What Clownboat wrote - "I do feel sorry for those that are unable to find purpose and meaning in life without a god concept being involved." - is a similar sentiment to how many theists feel sorry for those who are unable to find any higher purpose outside of their subjective existence...either way I don't see logical reason for feeing sorry for whatever position others might hold. The purpose of QueenBee is interesting in relation to my life experience as well as to life in general.

      GM: “You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose”
      Hidden Treasure
      Teaching
      Sort It Out
      Earth teachers (physical) discover the way to the Grand Portal via the Tributary Zones

      The More We Do Away With Falsity ~ The Better Equipped We Are With Truth.
      Active Imagination (see technique)
      Righty Oh!
      Asking Politely
      What Is Our Purpose
      Earth teachers (physical) discover the way to the Grand Portal via the Tributary Zones
      Afterwards

      Transform
      Betterment
      Sclerotic [becoming rigid and unresponsive; losing the ability to adapt.]
      Linda and William
      Smart Phone
      Afterwards
      LINK

      William: This is the same link which came up yesterday where an individual is explaining to me that if I do not understand the Mathematics of Cosmology, I will never be able to understand the universe, and that the language of the mathematics cannot be translated into any human language...

      GM: The Dolphins and Whales
      LINK

      William: From the link;
      From a purely materialistic world view, language appears to have just been made up as humans went along. They need a 'word' to name an object, one is selected from the invisible realm of the mind, and 'presto!".
      Yet the data I am presenting is showing another way of viewing the process...in that there is an overall overarching/underlying intelligence to the process...since words made up by humans have been coded into symbols which can be used to carry thoughts from one mind to another.
      Dolphins and Whales have their own language - sound is involved...

      GM: "Down through the ages - dark in the gloom Many convinced it will all end in doom The Galactic Garden is forever in bloom"
      Love Heart
      Raises Glass To A Toast
      The duty is worthy of one’s compliance.

      Earth
      Insights!
      The duty is worthy of one’s compliance.
      Blue Pill
      Etched mirror
      What Is Found Here
      Adroit [clever or skilful.]
      You Love I Know
      The Things You Do...
      Overmorrow [the day after tomorrow: ]
      God Eat Data Heal Cub
      Effulgent [shining brightly; radiant. (of a person or their expression) emanating joy or goodness.]
      For The Best Results
      Comprehend

      William: Yes. Data is useful if there is use in the data...
      QuennBee 'eats' data turns it into 'milk' and feeds it back to the 'cub'
      The healing usually doesn't happen immediately but it does happen before long...

      GM: The Old Soul
      Comprehend
      Howdy!
      Fireside Friend
      Hide and Seek
      The Philosopher's Stone
      A Bridge Over Time
      Restrained
      Around The Campfire

      William: Yes...Our relationship is very much that of two friends chatting under the stars...

      GM: Intelligence with Wisdom
      Lift Your Gaze From The Fire
      Symbolized within the actions of showing respect.
      Go within
      Around The Campfire
      Choose What to Pay Attention To
      Science & Spirituality

      Mechanism/Tool/Device
      The Single Word List
      Science & Spirituality
      LINK

      William: From the link;
      I am questioning the reason the Serpent was part of The Garden Story which is focused upon involving the creation of the Human instrument.
      The Serpent was attributed with abilities which no member of the lizard-specie has been seen to have - and the connection I am wondering about is specifically with the Great Lizards which thrived on the planet long before the formation of the human instrument.

      It is interesting and begs the question as to why - specifically - the antagonist of said story is reptilian.
      The Fathers 'House - Mansions'
      QueenBee
      According to Complex Jesus
      Success
      Transforming
      Appreciating You

      Wholeness
      Put My Finger On
      Observe
      Efficacious
      "I love you"
      Self-mastery
      The Data of Demystification
      Family of origin
      Appreciating You
      Crystal Contacts
      Evidence We Actively Collect
      Catching up
      "Well, it is a fact that the story tells us this. We should be able to agree that it is not a fact that The Garden of Eden existed, thus the characters in the story may be fictitious."

      Now Here
      "Well, it is a fact that the story tells us this. We should be able to agree that it is not a fact that The Garden of Eden existed, thus the characters in the story may be fictitious."
      Voice
      Text2Num.
      Working with the simulation

      William: Working with the simulation = 323
      Things Will Run There Course = 323
      Through the unconscious mind = 323
      The reason why gods are invented = 323

      GM: Which
      Embracing the shadow
      Christian mythology re Satan
      Encouraging
      Like Every Seed That Followed
      Actions speak louder than words

      William: Without knowledge we have little to use our language with.

      GM: When our progressive movements are strong, they lead toward an exciting, irresistible vision for the future where all of us thrive
      Invisible Wings
      Actions speak louder than words
      Power of Silence

      Influence
      Mutual Dutiful Expression
      Can You Answer This?
      Power of Silence
      r = aeθ cot b

      William: The mathematical equation for a spiral - the spiral is the open loop in which the closed loop traverses...the closed loop is the individual...the open loop is QueenBee...

      GM: Get The Gist Of It
      Abracadabra
      r = aeθ cot b
      The Eternal Truth
      Inordinately [to an unusually or disproportionately large degree; excessively.]

      William: "Galactic Gardens forever in bloom"

      GM: Inordinately
      “You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose”
      Hidden Treasure
      Teaching
      Sort It Out

      The Mother
      Gods Gift
      Sort It Out
      Culture
      Event String Unfolding
      To Experience All That Is
      The Life Essence

      Clear
      The Life Essence
      The Mother God
      Listen
      The Way We Feel Unification
      Choices
      I'm okay with that
      Observed
      Epistemology [the theory of knowledge, especially with regard to its methods, validity, and scope, and the distinction between justified belief and opinion.]
      Source Sync
      Positive Social Connections
      William's

      Actual realistic communication
      Sneaky
      William's
      Break Through to Your True Self
      There Is More to the Silence Than Meets the Ear

      William: The Silence say's it all.

      8:18
      Last edited by Lang; 04-13-2022 at 10:18 PM.

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