Thread: So simple you will cry.

No, no stupid.

Everything is constantly becoming more and more complex, not seeking balance. If every system sought balance then the universe would be a stagnant pool of energy, evenly distributed through space.

Originally Posted by A Roxxor

No, no stupid.

Everything is constantly becoming more and more complex, not seeking balance. If every system sought balance then the universe would be a stagnant pool of energy, evenly distributed through space.

Yes but complex is relative, if the universe is infinite then complex is another term that simply means nothing.
You would perceive the universe is getting more complex because family lines(of every spiecies) keep growing and branching off but eventually the branching will slow as the conscious minds of the universe overcome this planet unconscious life(It is concious but on a much deeper scale, like gia status) and eventally concious will even die off from starvation + lack of oxygen(couple billion years later which means nothing because time is relative new unconcious life will start, but instead of oxygen and carbon it will be something diffrent, maby even in a gas state.)
What im really trying to show is that this multiverse is so "complex" that literally everytime there is interaction between members of the opposite sex there minds will "Click" and everyone of there potential children are born because there is infinite potential in each universe.
If the universe is infinite there is no fake or real, because everything is real just on a smaller scale, but small means nothing in an infinite universe so that which is thought simply is(You think therefore you are)
philosophers understand that true wisdom is understanding that they know nothing, This goes so deep that you dont even know if your parents really made you, or that there parents even made them. Life is just a contious series of thoughts and it dosent stop just because a "life ends", because if the universe is infinite there is no end or begining, its just a cycle of life and every animal plant and concious being is your own essence. You co exist with your ownself because time means nothing, you created your own universe by thinking.

Can I buy some pot off of you?

Originally Posted by ExoByte

Can I buy some pot off of you?

I think you should be asking him for some Amanita Muscaria. Pot wont do the trick!

Normally if something is hard to understand then I am skeptical of criticism. Because I do not understand who am I to say how much validity an idea has. But I must agree, this seems to be coming from left field. Your ideas jump all over the place, with no real premise to back up the ideas.
Maybe if you could further elaborate on, well the entire thing... we could come closer to understanding your perspective.

Originally Posted by Iminaluciddream

Yes but complex is relative, if the universe is infinite then complex is another term that simply means nothing.
You would perceive the universe is getting more complex because family lines(of every spiecies) keep growing and branching off but eventually the branching will slow as the conscious minds of the universe overcome this planet unconscious life(It is concious but on a much deeper scale, like gia status) and eventally concious will even die off from starvation + lack of oxygen(couple billion years later which means nothing because time is relative new unconcious life will start, but instead of oxygen and carbon it will be something diffrent, maby even in a gas state.)
What im really trying to show is that this multiverse is so "complex" that literally everytime there is interaction between members of the opposite sex there minds will "Click" and everyone of there potential children are born because there is infinite potential in each universe.
If the universe is infinite there is no fake or real, because everything is real just on a smaller scale, but small means nothing in an infinite universe so that which is thought simply is(You think therefore you are)
philosophers understand that true wisdom is understanding that they know nothing, This goes so deep that you dont even know if your parents really made you, or that there parents even made them. Life is just a contious series of thoughts and it dosent stop just because a "life ends", because if the universe is infinite there is no end or begining, its just a cycle of life and every animal plant and concious being is your own essence. You co exist with your ownself because time means nothing, you created your own universe by thinking.

This isn't a philosophical statement, this is a fact.

Systems lean toward complexity. It is favoured. This is observable in chemistry, mathematics, physics, anywhere. Complexity is the amount of subsystems that you can break a system down into.

Life is an arbitrary label for autonomous molecules.

Complexity? I think you mean disorder.

Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed

Complexity? I think you mean disorder.

No, if disorder was favoured the universe would be a simple series of systems that did noting but collect and disperse.

But, disorder is favoured, isn't it? If I remember correctly, this is what Chemistry suggests.

Not sure what you mean by disorder.

I do know that in chemistry, complexity is definitely favoured, as molecules interact and change.

Originally Posted by A Roxxor

No, if disorder was favoured the universe would be a simple series of systems that did noting but collect and disperse.

Isn't that EXACTLY what it does? yes

We've gone from It's so simple
To it's so complex
To it's so disordered
Please try to at least figure out what Iminal is saying before offering other ideas on the subject.

I think I get what he is trying to say with no drugs attached. In fact I have entertained this idea before, but then decided it wasnt worth worrying about.

In layman's terms, he is simply saying if there is an infinite universe and infinite possibilities then every time a thought process between two beings happens, then every possible outcome happens in some universe. Like with the creating a child, a lot of times people decide right in the first meeting if they would sleep with the person...so if they dont, but still thought about it, in a different universe they do make the child. However, this causes a problem because then that means the universes contain different people who are not in every universe, I believe this would cause an imbalance, no?

Originally Posted by tommo

Isn't that EXACTLY what it does? yes

No. Right now systems combine to form more complex systems which can be broken up into simpler systems or contine on, etc.

I meant that the universe isn't just a blob of energy that does nothing but contort. Systems react with each other and combine. They also break each other up, or do so spontaneously.