Thread: So simple you will cry.

and yes that which can be named is not the tao, but there is no wrong or right and believing that which has less logical fallacies could potentially lead to shift in polarity of thinking from neg to pos

Any mods wanna move this to senseless banter?

Seriously, What
The
Fuck
are you talking about?

As I read and rea my face just became more and more contorted with every word.
You seem to be talking to someone even though you are not responding to anyone.
Since you have written this down you can now go through it all and clarify.

Originally Posted by tommo

Seriously, What
The
Fuck
are you talking about?

I may not have phrased it quite the same way but...yeah...what he said^.

To me (and this is simply an observation, so please explain it better, if I'm wrong) it seems like you are taking the simple concept of equilibrium and balance and going waaaaaay left field with it - trying to use it to form explanations for things that just don't really make any sense.

For instance:

Originally Posted by Iminaluciddream

Peoples minds are black holes... and white holes depending on sex (white holes are essentially black holes though depending on perspective (=)

What does the human mind have to do with a black hole? And how does a black hole = a "white hole" (whatever that means), "based on perspective?"

And you completely lost me on the whole parent thing. Saying "you don't even exist in your parents universe" and implying (at least in my interpretation) that whenever people make eye contact and think about sex, it's quantifiable as having actually, physically, happened. I just don't get any of that. I mean, I understand the possibility of a "multi-verse" (which is what I think you're trying to touch on), but I think you're going to have to explain your position a little better than you did.

I'm going to do that whole quote thing that people like to do here... This way I can broadcast what I got out of this.

Originally Posted by Iminaluciddream

Peoples minds are black holes... and white holes depending on sex (white holes are essentially black holes though depending on perspective (=)
the connection of the two during eyecontact = new universe derived from the past 2. (your life is a compatilation of the sounds and experiences shared from your parents)
Another secret? There are no cubes in this universe,( not even in music skip bsharp esharp) but that is all we perceive, that's why it is un-percivable with out DRUGS

Originally Posted by Iminaluciddream

Another secret? There are no cubes in this universe,( not even in music skip bsharp esharp) but that is all we perceive, that's why it is un-percivable with out DRUGS

Originally Posted by Iminaluciddream

DRUGS

Originally Posted by Iminaluciddream

DRUGS

Please tell me his entire post was drug-induced. That would at least give him an excuse.

HAHA! I was actually thinking the same thing as Gestalt and sort of the same thing as Oneironaut but couldn't bring myself to think of a way to word it in a state of such utter.... something.

I get the whole negative, positive, polar opposite type thing completely. But

Life is the answer. The question? Sex
The real questions: Who is asking the question? Your parents
Why? Why not(=)
how?Eye contact.

Lost me entirely.
None of that fits together in a proper English sentence/paragraph.

I'm also uncertain why people think everything is balanced, like he said energy is balanced. ????

It's....so simple...

Originally Posted by Snowy Egypt

It's....so simple...

I LOL'ed.

I'm crying not because it's simple.

I'm crying because it's so damned confusing.

Edit: Ironically, I came to a similar conclusion the basic principles of life can be broken down into balances going through cycles. Left it at that, though. It's enough.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

I LOL'ed.

LOL me too.
Just such a simple joke too.

I wouldn't say it's balances. Not at all. Just that there has to be an oppisite to something for it to have any meaning. Um.... that made no sens. Okay, say there is only black, you won't have any idea what black is unless there is something to compare it to; white.
That's what I think he was getting at and then went, yeh completely left wing as gestalt said.
Fuck it's late I PROMISED I wouldn't be up this late.

No, no stupid.

Everything is constantly becoming more and more complex, not seeking balance. If every system sought balance then the universe would be a stagnant pool of energy, evenly distributed through space.

Originally Posted by A Roxxor

No, no stupid.

Everything is constantly becoming more and more complex, not seeking balance. If every system sought balance then the universe would be a stagnant pool of energy, evenly distributed through space.

Yes but complex is relative, if the universe is infinite then complex is another term that simply means nothing.
You would perceive the universe is getting more complex because family lines(of every spiecies) keep growing and branching off but eventually the branching will slow as the conscious minds of the universe overcome this planet unconscious life(It is concious but on a much deeper scale, like gia status) and eventally concious will even die off from starvation + lack of oxygen(couple billion years later which means nothing because time is relative new unconcious life will start, but instead of oxygen and carbon it will be something diffrent, maby even in a gas state.)
What im really trying to show is that this multiverse is so "complex" that literally everytime there is interaction between members of the opposite sex there minds will "Click" and everyone of there potential children are born because there is infinite potential in each universe.
If the universe is infinite there is no fake or real, because everything is real just on a smaller scale, but small means nothing in an infinite universe so that which is thought simply is(You think therefore you are)
philosophers understand that true wisdom is understanding that they know nothing, This goes so deep that you dont even know if your parents really made you, or that there parents even made them. Life is just a contious series of thoughts and it dosent stop just because a "life ends", because if the universe is infinite there is no end or begining, its just a cycle of life and every animal plant and concious being is your own essence. You co exist with your ownself because time means nothing, you created your own universe by thinking.

Can I buy some pot off of you?

Originally Posted by ExoByte

Can I buy some pot off of you?

I think you should be asking him for some Amanita Muscaria. Pot wont do the trick!

Normally if something is hard to understand then I am skeptical of criticism. Because I do not understand who am I to say how much validity an idea has. But I must agree, this seems to be coming from left field. Your ideas jump all over the place, with no real premise to back up the ideas.
Maybe if you could further elaborate on, well the entire thing... we could come closer to understanding your perspective.

Originally Posted by Iminaluciddream

Yes but complex is relative, if the universe is infinite then complex is another term that simply means nothing.
You would perceive the universe is getting more complex because family lines(of every spiecies) keep growing and branching off but eventually the branching will slow as the conscious minds of the universe overcome this planet unconscious life(It is concious but on a much deeper scale, like gia status) and eventally concious will even die off from starvation + lack of oxygen(couple billion years later which means nothing because time is relative new unconcious life will start, but instead of oxygen and carbon it will be something diffrent, maby even in a gas state.)
What im really trying to show is that this multiverse is so "complex" that literally everytime there is interaction between members of the opposite sex there minds will "Click" and everyone of there potential children are born because there is infinite potential in each universe.
If the universe is infinite there is no fake or real, because everything is real just on a smaller scale, but small means nothing in an infinite universe so that which is thought simply is(You think therefore you are)
philosophers understand that true wisdom is understanding that they know nothing, This goes so deep that you dont even know if your parents really made you, or that there parents even made them. Life is just a contious series of thoughts and it dosent stop just because a "life ends", because if the universe is infinite there is no end or begining, its just a cycle of life and every animal plant and concious being is your own essence. You co exist with your ownself because time means nothing, you created your own universe by thinking.

This isn't a philosophical statement, this is a fact.

Systems lean toward complexity. It is favoured. This is observable in chemistry, mathematics, physics, anywhere. Complexity is the amount of subsystems that you can break a system down into.

Life is an arbitrary label for autonomous molecules.

Complexity? I think you mean disorder.

Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed

Complexity? I think you mean disorder.

No, if disorder was favoured the universe would be a simple series of systems that did noting but collect and disperse.

But, disorder is favoured, isn't it? If I remember correctly, this is what Chemistry suggests.

Not sure what you mean by disorder.

I do know that in chemistry, complexity is definitely favoured, as molecules interact and change.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy

Which my chem prof talked about as the disorder in a system.

Entropy is the movement of heat across a system. How does this make diorder favorable? If anything, it would indicate that heat works like a fluid-- Actively moving from areas of high concentration to low concentration.

Originally Posted by A Roxxor

No, if disorder was favoured the universe would be a simple series of systems that did noting but collect and disperse.

Isn't that EXACTLY what it does? yes

We've gone from It's so simple
To it's so complex
To it's so disordered
Please try to at least figure out what Iminal is saying before offering other ideas on the subject.

I think I get what he is trying to say with no drugs attached. In fact I have entertained this idea before, but then decided it wasnt worth worrying about.

In layman's terms, he is simply saying if there is an infinite universe and infinite possibilities then every time a thought process between two beings happens, then every possible outcome happens in some universe. Like with the creating a child, a lot of times people decide right in the first meeting if they would sleep with the person...so if they dont, but still thought about it, in a different universe they do make the child. However, this causes a problem because then that means the universes contain different people who are not in every universe, I believe this would cause an imbalance, no?

There is no imbalance...

There is always one thing balancing out the other.

For example there is no rich, without the poor.

or

Imbalances in your perception of reality are balanced out by your subconciousness.

I'm not sure, if I understood the first post, either. You need a different way to translate your thoughts into a more convenient language. Use metaphors or imagery for example.

What is your point? That we know nothing?

Originally Posted by Snowy Egypt

It's....so simple...

hahaha