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      Killing large masses of humans means less humans. Less humans means the greedy, wealthy elite has to share EVEN less of it's riches. Depopulation is one of the things that keep Capitalism going. Less people = More wealth + a Diseased, weak humanity is a million dollar business supplying expensive treatments and medicine.

      Indeed, the people who have this on tyheir agenda ARE mentally ill. All of Mankind is mentally very ill. Don't know if you've noticed yet. Humanity is very sick and it's disease is Ego-centricness, Capitalism and it's excessive ignorance are it's symptoms. The worst symptom of this ignorant disease is the idea they are perfectly healthy and fine.

      Our market-based society has lost it's human values as it is finetuned to make every human being a minimal cost and a maximal profit-source. We're slaves living in the illusion of freedom. Those that fiercly rebel and revolt against the system are not "paranoid" or delusional; They are NOT blind and see what's going on, unlike masses of mundaine, "normal" people.

      They are shaping our diet to make us the ultimate, willless workslaves. In this twisted logic they have also created druglaws: Not to protect public health as they claim, but to keep us dumb, ignorant workants. Outlawing Magic Mushrooms, Marijuana, Salvia, DMT, LSD and Peyote were simply a move to make Consciousness-expanders unavailable to the masses of slaves. Because if they'd be really concerned about public health our governments wouldn't freely sell alcohol, coffee and tobacco and as a state make many millions doing that. But needless to say: Alcohol, Coffee and Tobacco are not going to make you a rebel: Rather the opposite. Cigarettes hooks people and makes them feel weak/not in control, Coffee keeps poor sleepy slaves awake so they can work more than mother nature would let them, and alcohol washes the intellect and rationality away so slaves ecome to senseless to grasp how much their existance is one of brutal Slavery.

      So they are now messing with our food so we massively become weak and diseased and die.... That hardily even surprises me, given that I'm already aware of their heartless, wicked intentions.
      It more so surprises me to see people call this "paranoid conspiracy theories", cause then they clearly have no idea of how much they too, like all of us, are economical slaves.
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      SKA, I'm with you so long as you're not one of the people who's against genetically engineered crops.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Black_Eagle View Post
      SKA, I'm with you so long as you're not one of the people who's against genetically engineered crops.
      didn't you see the video? genetically engineered food has bad long term effects that can cause diseases. they are far less nutritious. if we were all forced to eat nothing but GMO we would all die of malnutrition.
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      Quote Originally Posted by SKA View Post
      Killing large masses of humans means less humans. Less humans means the greedy, wealthy elite has to share EVEN less of it's riches. Depopulation is one of the things that keep Capitalism going.
      No, actually capitalism is based on free trade and you need a whole bunch of people to keep it going. Your money becomes worthless if you just killed 90&#37; of the population in the process of acquiring it because then there's probably not even a guy at McDonalds who can make you a burger, or a guy building streets to drive on. So it's pointless to kill your customers, I thought that would be pretty obvious.

      I agree with most of the rest of your post though, but not in that there are people out there who think anyone has a big-time advantage from large-scale homicide.

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      didn't you see the video? genetically engineered food has bad long term effects that can cause diseases.
      What a bland and unfounded generalization. Really, there's not much point in debating with you because you seem to think that anything that is on the internet is invariably true. Well, another thing that has bad long term effects is not eating anything. Yet another point is that it's the consumer's decision to pay as little money as possible on food, so it's the companies responsibility to produce the cheapest food possible. In other developed countries, people spend 3 to 4 times as much money (% of their income) on food.

      Are you aware that virtually all functioning countries have food regulation for customer protection? You can't just put out whatever garbage you think people will buy without anybody checking it first. Don't you remember fucking BSE and H5N1? BSE isn't even that big a deal and they still killed thousands of animals over it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Elis D. View Post
      Can you imagine... clean water, food and air, living in communities with animals and people who care... then you get an infection and you're fucking dead. Sounds like a spoiled hippie with romanticized ideas of the past (ironically taken from the big bad media) just took a dump on human achievement.
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      Great Video acidman. I remember seeing it before.

      Quote Originally Posted by Serkat
      No, actually capitalism is based on free trade and you need a whole bunch of people to keep it going. Your money becomes worthless if you just killed 90&#37; of the population in the process of acquiring it because then there's probably not even a guy at McDonalds who can make you a burger, or a guy building streets to drive on. So it's pointless to kill your customers, I thought that would be pretty obvious.

      I agree with most of the rest of your post though, but not in that there are people out there who think anyone has a big-time advantage from large-scale homicide.
      Sure. A Free Market. That's what they tell us it is. Except it does not serve the people, it limits and opresses them.Their freedom has become inferior, profit maximalisation has become superior interrest. We're all so caught up making money that we forget human values and community spirit. The economical elite is making very sure that people in middle and lower classes STAY there and don't rise up. They wouldn't want to share their fortunes. Ever wondered why the Economical Elite class always consists of so very little people?

      Try starting a carreer as an artist, make and sell some paintings and behold as the Taxcollectors snatch away 2/3d of your hard, honoustly earned income. This happened to my brother-in-law. He has a very minimal income and sold some paintings and now the taxcollector-nazis are confiscating pretty much all of it. There's no way a man can rise up the economical ladder and make a decent living this way. Sure the illusion that "if you really want to and work hard at it" is being put up, but I'm not having that BS.

      So if we've already come to the point we no longer see humans as valuable beings, but as consumers, we've already taken a very wrong turn.

      From this materialistic, ego-centric perspective take a look at the vast majority of human population: Poor poor poor. Too poor to live in a proper house, too poor to have clean water, too poor to have enough to eat. These people aren't at all attractive consumers. From this sick perspective: These people only cost alot of money.

      And poor people make up the vast majority of the human population. They're not even going to be able to make the big boys money. They are not going to buy cars, cellphones, playstation 3, PCs... So killing them, the poor majority, would be the wickedminded Capitalist desire. Yes we have been properly brainwashed to fear communism and to embrace Capitalism. But Capitalism's ideal of "you can become a hero from zero" is an illusion, to keep the poor, hardworking masses working towards that illusion. You think the big boys are just gunna welcome the masses of poor people to come play their profit games and share in their welfare? Think again.

      Quote Originally Posted by Serkat
      Can you imagine... clean water, food and air, living in communities with animals and people who care... then you get an infection and you're fucking dead. Sounds like a spoiled hippie with romanticized ideas of the past (ironically taken from the big bad media) just took a dump on human achievement.
      You sound like you're very frustrated about something. As if you have no hope. As if you don't dare to dream. This is exactly the blindness that our "free-market"-based society propagates us from birth. Respect your superiors, Have blind Faith in the System and fear, redicule and bash anyone who opposes this "glorious system". And those that propagate another system are fools.Right?

      If you get an infection and die than at least it wasn't an unnececairy suffering. I myself would rather die of an infection in some hippy community in nature, then being bombarderd with my loved ones in a city. Disease and infection are unavoidable things in life; They're natural. However we humans and our ego-centric moneymindedness make eachother's lives an endless misery. War, economical exploitation, Dictatorial states, Terror, Racism, Fascism..etc All these manmade disasters are unnececairy and unnatural. We oughta know better than that.
      Capitalism makes us forget that we should work together to survive as a community, and instead makes us think we should just garantee our own survival and to see others as competition. Divide and Rule. It's a millenia old way of dominating and exploiting people that works just as well today as it did in pre-roman times. You are the living proof of that.
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      Quote Originally Posted by SKA View Post
      Great Video acidman. I remember seeing it before.


      Sure. A Free Market. That's what they tell us it is. Except it does not serve the people, it limits and opresses them.Their freedom has become inferior, profit maximalisation has become superior interrest. We're all so caught up making money that we forget human values and community spirit. The economical elite is making very sure that people in middle and lower classes STAY there and don't rise up. They wouldn't want to share their fortunes. Ever wondered why the Economical Elite class always consists of so very little people?

      Try starting a carreer as an artist, sell some paintings and behold as the Taxcollectors snatch away 2/3d of your hard, honoustly earned income. This happened to my brother-in-law. He has a very minimal income and sold some paintings and now the taxcollector-nazis are confiscating pretty much all of it. There's no way a man can rise up the economical ladder and make a decent living. Sure the illusion that "if you really want to and work hard at it" is being put up, but I'm not having that BS.

      So if we've already come to the point we no longer see humans as valuable beings, but as consumers, we've already taken a very wrong turn.

      From this materialistic, ego-centric perspective take a look at the vast majority of human population: Poor poor poor. Too poor to live in a proper house, too poor to have clean water, too poor to have enough to eat. These people aren't at all attractive consumers. From this sick perspective: These people only cost alot of money.

      And poor people make up the vast majority of the human population. They're not even going to be able to make the big boys money. They are not going to buy cars, cellphones, playstation 3, PCs... So killing them, the poor majority, would be the wickedminded Capitalist desire. Yes we have been properly brainwashed to fear communism and to embrace Capitalism. But Capitalism's ideal of "you can become a hero from zero" is an illusion, to keep the poor, hardworking masses working towards that illusion. You think the big boys are just gunna welcome the masses of poor people to come play their profit games and share in their welfare? Think again.
      OK I have two questions first:

      1. I thought you were from the Netherlands or something... no? Are you American?

      2. What do you think about prostitution, in this context?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Serkat View Post
      What a bland and unfounded generalization. Really, there's not much point in debating with you because you seem to think that anything that is on the internet is invariably true. Well, another thing that has bad long term effects is not eating anything. Yet another point is that it's the consumer's decision to pay as little money as possible on food, so it's the companies responsibility to produce the cheapest food possible. In other developed countries, people spend 3 to 4 times as much money (% of their income) on food.

      Are you aware that virtually all functioning countries have food regulation for customer protection? You can't just put out whatever garbage you think people will buy without anybody checking it first. Don't you remember fucking BSE and H5N1? BSE isn't even that big a deal and they still killed thousands of animals over it.

      if you would have actually watched the video. you would see how my supposed bland generalizations are based on research and FACT. Life never rewards ignorance in a good way.
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      We had a pretty good discussion going. I really enjoyed SKA's input.

      if I was a wealthy rich man, I wouldn't want to share none of it, either
      That is because you have been trained to think this way. We are a civilization of survivalists with a bit of technology to make us civilized and calm. We are a civilization of prostitutes, selling our limited time for a cheap wage (if we are smart, hardworking and lucky we get a slightly better wage). We are merely domesticated apes...

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      Quote Originally Posted by grasshoppa View Post

      That is because you have been trained to think this way. We are a civilization of survivalists with a bit of technology to make us civilized and calm. We are a civilization of prostitutes, selling our limited time for a cheap wage (if we are smart, hardworking and lucky we get a slightly better wage). We are merely domesticated apes...
      it's really amusing when someone responds seriously to something I obviously posted out of humor.....
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      Quote Originally Posted by Serkat View Post
      No, actually capitalism is based on free trade and you need a whole bunch of people to keep it going. Your money becomes worthless if you just killed 90&#37; of the population in the process of acquiring it because then there's probably not even a guy at McDonalds who can make you a burger, or a guy building streets to drive on. So it's pointless to kill your customers, I thought that would be pretty obvious.

      I agree with most of the rest of your post though, but not in that there are people out there who think anyone has a big-time advantage from large-scale homicide.

      What a bland and unfounded generalization. Really, there's not much point in debating with you because you seem to think that anything that is on the internet is invariably true. Well, another thing that has bad long term effects is not eating anything. Yet another point is that it's the consumer's decision to pay as little money as possible on food, so it's the companies responsibility to produce the cheapest food possible. In other developed countries, people spend 3 to 4 times as much money (% of their income) on food.

      Are you aware that virtually all functioning countries have food regulation for customer protection? You can't just put out whatever garbage you think people will buy without anybody checking it first. Don't you remember fucking BSE and H5N1? BSE isn't even that big a deal and they still killed thousands of animals over it.
      See my view is, the plants have always been like this why fuck with it?
      Crossbreeding buds on the otherhand, delicious.

      Who knows the long term effects? They don't test these things for 50 something years.
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