Having read the same Wikipedia article, it also affected sexual and bone development in young people. |
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Don't move this thread, eh? |
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Last edited by Omnis Dei; 04-15-2012 at 04:02 AM.
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Having read the same Wikipedia article, it also affected sexual and bone development in young people. |
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Responding to 1, this fact does not necessarily lend credence to the idea that this is the mind's eye or the third eye. The pineal gland is similar to much more primitive eyes that merely detect the presence of light. The presence of light, in this case, suppresses the release of melatonin--the idea being, it's day time, so you should be awake. The absence of light, on the other hand, allows for melatonin to be released; thus, it promotes sleepiness. |
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It is proberly the single most important part of your system from my opinion. some call it the third eye, also responsible for intuition, prety much like a reciever which gets devine information from the collective field of conciouseness. When you make a break through, or get an answer to a important question where the answer just pops into your hear, the "Aha Moment" you have the pineal gland to thank. It also has other features which help with sleeping, and if activated its the most pleasurable exprience of your life. happened to me once trying to figure out how i did it to do it again |
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How exactly do you know this, Mrsf0011? What reputable scientific sources published the articles you got these ideas from? To me, it sounds like you made all of that up. And please, no anecdotal evidence. |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
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Honestly it's been more or less debunked. While DMT resides in small amounts in virtually every bit of living matter, no profound connection had been found with the Pineal Gland. It's basically been concluded that the pineal does not excrete any DMT. Though, like StonedApe said, there is still much research to be done before we understand the mysteries of the Pineal Gland. I would not say it's safe to hedge one's bets that the pineal gland truly is the missing link to divinity as Descartes implied. |
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Last edited by Original Poster; 07-31-2012 at 08:35 AM.
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As far as I know philosophical interest in the pineal basically started and ended with Descartes. It was just his very weak attempt at starting to address the mind-body problem and was perceived as such by his peers. I very much doubt people were even aware of the pituitary before modern anatomy. Given that the Egyptians thought the brain was worthless goop which they chucked away it's hard to give any credit at all to their having a preoccupation with the gland. |
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Last edited by Xei; 07-31-2012 at 09:09 AM.
That is such a disgustingly obtuse ascription to Egyptian Mythology it is worthy of no more response than "Fucking Read More." |
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Last edited by Original Poster; 07-31-2012 at 09:14 AM.
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What a paragon of intellectualism you are Omnis. |
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Any kind of misinformation (if there even is any), aside, I do not think the pineal gland is this mind's eye. For being someone who does not even think that there is a single "you" or consciousness, Omnis, I find it hard to believe you find it possible, let alone plausible, that the mind's eye could be attributed to the function of a single gland in the brain. You took some factual information (pinealocytes looking similar to photoreceptors in the eye) and made from it a romantic explanation, but your explanation contains no more facts than what it started with. Instead of doing the logical thing in that situation (learning about pinealocytes looking similar to photoreceptors in the eye) and researching the information further, you completely bypassed formulating a hypothesis and supporting it with evidence in lieu of the easy route--coming to a conclusion based on perceived "insight". If you read my original post, as it turns out, you are most likely wrong and the pineal gland's pinealocytes probably just modulate the suppression and secretion of melatonin based on lighting from the environment. Research the topic further, maybe you'll find something interesting no one in this thread knows about yet. |
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I think if someone actually rigorously defines what is specifically meant by "mind's eye" or "third eye", this discussion would evaporate in a puff of illogic. |
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I did read your post and I find it insightful, actually. But continue acting like suggesting something is the same thing as ignoring evidence to the contrary if you like. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
The mind's eye is just the part(s) of the brain that are used when you imagine or visualize something. Close your eyes and imagine a tomato. That's the minds eye. Not really a rigorous definition, but I don't really care. |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
Certain meditations have led me to believe chakras are energy focal points within the body. However I will admit it did not appear to me that the pineal gland is the specific vortex for the "third eye" chakra. While there's definitely a focal point within the brain, it's energy related, not consciousness related. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Sorry to disappoint, but I really don't know anything about the history of the pineal gland, or the science of it for that matter. The only research I ever did on it was how it related to DMT. And all I found was that all the sources I looked at had made really unscientific assumptions. I'm still waiting for more data to come in. I'd really like to know more about how it functions before I speculate about what was used to symbolize it and why. I'm pretty skeptical about the catholics even knowing about it unless it has some role in mystical experiences, and even then I'm skeptical that they had that kind of anatomical understanding. |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
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