Thread: Why do people use drugs to get a better dreaming experience?

I don't know Once I drank really much and I saw a color changing mushroom in my room so it might just help . I'm not a big fan of drugs , the fact that they're illegal just makes me paranoid :p

Illegal = not worth the risk.
Besides, I've heard marujuana decreases your chances of a lucid dream.

Drugs = Not worth the dangers, IMO.

Originally Posted by LunaLovegood

Why do people think drugs are the answer to dreaming?

They do?

Well, I don't.

Drugs etc open the door to that lower astral (dream state or nightmares etc) and its very easy to get in and maybe harder to get out. There are "pure" herbs that can help with little or no side effects i can give them in private email if one likes. Catnip is pretty harmless if used responsibly thought it does not work for everyone. Its better to meditate on the higher chakras (heart, throat and thirde eye) Dreams, OBE etc is about learning mind/self control. Are we going to be in control of our own minds/bodies or are we going to give it up to some other/outside entity?

Originally Posted by MythicDreams

Besides, I've heard marujuana decreases your chances of a lucid dream.

No it reduces your recall.


and catnip is nothing more then a mint plant, it doesn't make people go crazy like it does cats.

IMO, people who use marijuana for having lucid dreams are searching more for an excuse, rather than an effective solution. It wreaks havoc on recall, though does appear to increase the chances of becoming lucid.

Catnip, to humans, is no more than a mint plant, as triple-H said. It contains a mild psychedelic that is very specific to members of the feline family. Humans do not possess the required receptors to get any sort of effect from it. Any experiences gained from catnip are purely a result of the placebo effect.

Alcohol is devastating for recall, and as far as I've read, does not significantly improve the chances of having a lucid dream; indeed, quite the opposite appears to hold true more often than not.

Melatonin, when taken as a supplement, can be quite effective at quickly inducing sleep and even dreams, and if used properly, can compliment an individual's natural melatonin production, as well as his or her sleep schedule. It is not the cheapest drug in the world, but can be obtained over the counter quite easily, and if you're a smart shopper, you'll wait until there's a sale before bulking up.

B6 is a vitamin known well to increase the vividness of dreams, and so, offer some advantage to a person attempting to recall their dreams. While it does not take the place of effort in recalling dreams, and does not act as a substitute for logging one's dreams in whatever manner they see fit, it does improve the odds that a person will recall a dream, and typically improves the clarity and detail of what they recall. It usually does not help a person become lucid. It is fairly inexpensive, and can be easily purchased in increments of 100 large-dose pills at about four to six dollars.

There are other drugs out there, too, but those above are the ones most typically referred to or brought up in regards to lucid dreaming. Illegal drugs often hinder more than help a person's lucid dreaming efforts (though there are a few notable exceptions on DV). OTC vitamins and supplements are readily available, and can be purchased without hassle. No drug is a "silver bullet" when it comes to lucid dreaming; supplements and drugs should be viewed as aides to becoming lucid. Ultimately, it remains up to the individual to invest the appropriate amount of effort.

Catnip relaxes you, and soothes your belly, like any mint. It is good for sleeping and soothing nervous tension. It is not a drug, but a medicinal herb. It is good for colic in babies and children with insomnia. Mugwort is a good herb for dreaming, but it doesn't taste that great. What some people do is make a little dream pillow and stuff it with these herbs. sleeping with your dream pillow helps. Lavender also is soothing. These are not drugs, but herbal allies. There are no negative side effects and their positive effects are gentle and helpful to humans.

I think people who are using these drugs are complete idiots, They force them selves into having a Lucid Dream with no practice. And catnip isn't a drug, its for cats. Who ever says doing drugs is a good thing to get you into Lucid Dreaming is a complete dork.

Originally Posted by Skarr

Who ever says doing drugs is a good thing to get you into Lucid Dreaming is a complete dork.

I second that.

Drugs are good for other things. The same things that lucid dreaming is for.

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

Drugs are good for other things. The same things that lucid dreaming is for.

Wisest response in the thread, so far.

Originally Posted by LunaLovegood

I heard in chat that people use catnip to get a better dreaming experience.

Also people use marijuana to get more "vivid"

Do you agree with the DRUG method?

Why do people think drugs are the answer to dreaming?

Because westerners are lazy and want to cheat the system, keep doing it without drugs and you will be on the slow road, but in the long run yours will have a pot of gold at the end and there's will have nothing but the drugs they now "Have" to take to experience dreams.

But at least they will have drugs!

Three words. Don't do drugs!

drugs are great! most of america asks their doctors for prozac. When do you think a good time would be to talk to your doctor about prozac??
.....moo!
seriously though people take drugs for dreaming the same reason you do anything. You think you would feel better for doing so.

....ba ba baa!

I wish I had a doctor. Actually, no I don't.

Drugs can be as good as lucid dreaming. And seeing as most of the members of this forum are virgins, sex can be as good as playing video games while on drugs. Lol

But seriously, don't do drugs...

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

I wish I had a doctor. Actually, no I don't.

dude that is so funny or at least I think so anyway

Psychoactive drugs drastically change one's perception of reality. Why someone would want to lose control of their mind for hours is beyond me. It's a bit disturbing to think about actually, so many people falling deeply into false perceptions of reality and desperately seeking the same high to regain control of what they had already lost. Our delicate human minds are not broken, so don't try to fix them with magical substances.

Originally Posted by fy_iceworld

Psychoactive drugs drastically change one's perception of reality. Why someone would want to lose control of their mind for hours is beyond me.

"Dreams permit each and everyone one of us to be quietly and safely insane, every night of our lives." ~William Dement

Many of us are oneironauts because we enjoy the altered reality. Not because we are "desperately falling into them", but because we enjoy the experience and experimentation into the mind. Many cases of hallucinogenic drug use are no different. The problem is that people who don't understand differenent facets of drug use erroneously mistake cautious, controlled drug experimentation with desperate, weak-minded attempts at "escapism." It says much less about the actual psychonaut, but says more about the dissenter's lack of perspective.

Our delicate human minds are not broken, so don't try to fix them with magical substances.

And this is exactly what I'm talking about. Many people who use drugs aren't trying to "fix" anything. There's nothing "magical" about the substances. It is about exploring other levels of consciousness (just like how many of us on this site have an interest in exploring our sleeping minds), and it is about researching the mind-altering substances you take, before you just dive into them. Not everyone who takes drugs are low-liife junkies who are just looking for a quick fix, to escape the hardships of reality.

With all that being said, no recreational drugs I know of intrinsically aid in lucid dreaming, so anyone who says they are taking drugs for lucid dreaming purposes is grossly misinformed - especially marijuana.

Not a big drug user, so maybe not the best person to respond to this but...

I have to agree with Oneironaut, pretty much said what I would have liked to have said, except said it better than I could have.

I also agree that drug use has never, as far as I am aware, in my own experience, enhanced dreaming or recall in any way. Occasionally hindered it, but never helped. A friend said years ago when he tried MDMA once he had very vivid dreams, but terrible recall of it. The one time I tried it, years ago too, I don't remember dreaming at all.

Speaking of altered states of mind though, I have found other factors that do greatly contribute to vivid dreams and excellent recall, though not necessarily lucid dreaming. They are things I would not recommend to anyone though, and only mention for the sake of discussion - fever and dehydration and sometimes injury being very strong dream-inducers for me (especially if the injury was sustained during sleep, such as that time I strained a muscle in my back due to sleeping awkwardly and couldn't breathe properly for a few days - getting out of bed was fun fun fun ). Injury, dehydration and fever I have found puts you into a similar altered state as each other. But as I said, better to be topped up with enough water than wake up with the thumping headache that dehydration gives. Such cases were merely results of forgetfulness or illness.

Fever works great!

lol you guys are weird.