Thread: I really hate it when people scoff at my interesting in lucid dreaming

Originally Posted by Bobblehat

You shouldn't revive threads that are "dead"? Where does it say this? Surely that's a pointless rule if someone's got something new to bring to a conversation?

Well, this isn't bringing anything new to the conversation now, is it? ^_^
Anyway, i'll edit it out of my post.

Originally Posted by fOrceez

But anyway, on top to this: You shouldn't care what other people think about. I mean, it's like you like different flavour of soda but the other kids hate it. I mean... and??? Are you gonna stop drinking it cause they don't like it?
One of my closest friends lucid dream with me, it's pretty cool. (When i say with me, i don't mean SDing :3 ) but when i tell other people about it, my friends tend not to judge me as they know the kind of person I am.

Well, I want to understand why. Your analogy with soda is inaccurate btw, for reasons too obvious to list.

Originally Posted by fOrceez

Well, this isn't bringing anything new to the conversation now, is it? ^_^

well that's not rude at all

I understand what you're saying, I too get confused looks. But, I love dreaming. I personally have only had a couple lucid dreams, but I feel special knowing that I have done this. I love knowing that I have a unique outlook on the dream world, and I also love telling people about it, and trying to teach them. If people are simply not interested, I say, its their loss. Those people have no idea what they're missing out on! And that's okay, think of it as, you have a unique gift. Something that you've put work towards and something that YOU can enjoy. Who cares what they think, I personally dont care anymore sure can be frustrating though when they think you're lying LOL

well, THIS isn't a serious discussion
Just my opinion, but you can't expect people to share your view, or if they are too quick to judge you shouldn't hate them. Say you hate READING (just an example) would you consider it and try it just if someone talked about enjoying it even if it seemed weird, and was one of your least favorite things? NEVER judge someone by one thing they say, they could have many reasons why they said that.

Originally Posted by Texture

well, THIS isn't a serious discussion
Just my opinion, but you can't expect people to share your view, or if they are too quick to judge you shouldn't hate them. Say you hate READING (just an example) would you consider it and try it just if someone talked about enjoying it even if it seemed weird, and was one of your least favorite things? NEVER judge someone by one thing they say, they could have many reasons why they said that.

That is a great example. Maby if we tried to calmly explain what people are missing by not reading and lucid dreaming they would have a lot more fun in their lives.

For whatever reason, most people, even if they're actually interested, are like ashamed to admit to it. It's like you're telling them about how great masturbation is or something... you get those same kind of looks like "Dude, STFU! Don't be talking to me about this stuff where people can hear us!"

And when they say they don't have to time to try it or whatever, all they're really doing is putting you off. Basically they just want some quick thing they can say to shut you up.

I remember once my friend told me he could wake up and then go right back to sleep and back into the same dream... I didn't believe him (obviously this was before I knew much about LDing). I literally thought he was just making it up. But then, he always did lie about everything and he always made it sound like he was some kind of badass superhero in his dreams, so I didn't believe anything he told me especially about his dreams. Which just goes to show ya, until you've experienced something like lucidity yourself, you don't want to hear people bragging about cool shit they can do in their dreams.

Heh.. after I had experienced a few lucids I told him about them, and he was all like "Man shut up... you can't do that!"

Originally Posted by Bobblehat

You shouldn't revive threads that are "dead"? Where does it say this? Surely that's a pointless rule if someone's got something new to bring to a conversation?

It's called necro posting and your not supposed to do it.

If a thread has served it's purpose and some one has something to add than they can start a new thread.

This thread shouldn't have been revived, but seeing as there's still a discussion going, it can stay open.

Originally Posted by dakotahnok

It's called necro posting and your not supposed to do it.

If a thread has served it's purpose and some one has something to add than they can start a new thread.

My question, "Where does it say that?" wasn't a rhetorical question. It genuinely WAS a question - I wanted to know where it said you shouldn't revive an old thread. So there was no need to do the sticky-out tongue thing. I'm still confused though: how does one decide that a thread has, "Served its purpose"? How long does a thread have to existed until it's declared a "dead" thread? And I'm not sure why someone should start a new thread if they have something to add to a discussion.

I agree with Puffin that this thread shouldn't have been revived. I try to ensure that my views, values and opinions are in constant flux. (Not that anyone could know that!) My views have changed since I made this thread. However, I can't imagine there ever being a time when I will have a great deal of respect for someone who ridicules me and my interests in a social setting to try to make other people laugh at me and make themselves look good.

Most people frown on necroing months-old threads, generally you shouldn't do it unless the mods say they're cool with it.

I'm not entirely sure what it is about necroing old threads that annoys people, but I guess it's something along the lines of "We want to separate the discussion we had about this a year ago from the discussion we're having about this now so things are kept organized nicely by general time and threads don't get too big. If you want to reference a post made in an old topic, you don't necessarily have to reply in the old topic, just add a link to the post."

This is just what came to my mind while reading this post:

I can see how it could be a little annoying for people who have changed their views, but to make a rule for it seems a little extreme, and anyone who actively complains about it is at least a little anal-retentive and douchey...

Regardless, although I'm not sorry if I upset anyone, I'll try not to necro-post again.

But since we're somewhat on the topic, I think it's pretty arrogant and self-serving whenever someone says anything along the lines of "who cares what anyone else thinks". We should care because we share a world with them. Of course it's within reason, and I'm not saying that because other people don't like sprite you should stop drinking sprite; individual taste in soda is just not as relevant to life and the world as dreams are. Everybody dreams, and if a massive portion of the population dismisses the implications of dreams (including lucid dreaming), then I think it's worth investigating why this is the case for the sole reason that it could tell us something about human nature.

Well, I know what you mean, It was the same for me, but i didnt force the issue and my freinds in college acutally came around themselves and began asking me about it! You never want to force a learnign experience on someone, simply plant the seed, then wait for them to come to you!
I know how you feel, sometimes it annoyed me, but i certainly didnt feel actual hate for them, annoyance, yes.

At the end of the day, everyone is on a different path and to push one from there own, well, that would mean getting off yours to do so!

Well not to start any fights, All i was simply stating is who cares if they give you a hard time about something you care about and that they refuse to understand. Theres nothing arrogant about that my friend. What is arrogant, is saying you dont care if you upset someone, good day.

Originally Posted by yuriythebest

an evangelist is someone who actively goes around trying to convert people to a religion or world view

I don't think you are one It's simply natural that, if you've discovered something wonderful you'd want to share it with people you know like family and friends..

evangelicists believe their religious view is something wonderful.

Originally Posted by GuyCecil

Most people frown on necroing months-old threads, generally you shouldn't do it unless the mods say they're cool with it.

I'm not entirely sure what it is about necroing old threads that annoys people, but I guess it's something along the lines of "We want to separate the discussion we had about this a year ago from the discussion we're having about this now so things are kept organized nicely by general time and threads don't get too big. If you want to reference a post made in an old topic, you don't necessarily have to reply in the old topic, just add a link to the post."

It really bugs me when people shun necroposting. Often I learn of something new or read of an experience I've never heard of because a thread's come back from the dead. And TBH I feel quite thankful for whoever's done it. Regardless of how bitter/grumpy people get.

Gah, anyhow sorry for the off-topic post.

Most people I talk to think that it's cool.

It's hit or miss for me. I've met friends who do it too or I've had friends lecture me. It depends on the personality type of the person. My friends who are always focused on what's going on think it's stupid and that dreaming sets you up for bad expectations.