Thread: Interesting question about sight in dreams

I'm finding it a bit hard to type this out and explain it!

Sometimes when we lucid dream, we're unlucky in the sense that we're unable to see. We can only see dark shapes in blackness, or everything may be very faded out, or there might be nothing at all. But our dreams often, in this case, don't end right away.

When we're lucid, we sometimes close our eyes, which ends the dream in most cases. Why does purposefully losing your sight end the dream, but the dream taking your site away doesn't?

Ah, I wouldn't know considering that I can close/open my eyes no problem in dreams. I'm guessing its because 1 - When I learned to LD, had no idea of what the common was and didn't develop auto-suggestions of that, and 2 - Because I blink/close-eyes a lot in waking, so I guess my brain sees this as something completely normal in dreams.

I think it is because closing your eyes does not compare/is not the same thing as the scene being faded out. Closing your eyes has to do with the eye lids which in dreams can cause people to change their dream scene or wake up or do nothing in some people.

I think it all has to do with expectation. If you close your eyes on purpouse I think it is more likely to triger your expectation that it will wake you up, you know what I mean? It probably depends on the person though. I have had plenty of times were the dream environment being dark itself had destabilized me but I think most of the times I was able to keep from waking up actualy.

Originally Posted by Puffin

I'm finding it a bit hard to type this out and explain it!

Sometimes when we lucid dream, we're unlucky in the sense that we're unable to see. We can only see dark shapes in blackness, or everything may be very faded out, or there might be nothing at all. But our dreams often, in this case, don't end right away.

When we're lucid, we sometimes close our eyes, which ends the dream in most cases. Why does purposefully losing your sight end the dream, but the dream taking your site away doesn't?

This is really interesting, and I've thought of it a lot before. Sadly, I didn't come to a conclusion

i am much like walms in the fact that closing my eyes does not ruin my dreams, probebly because when i close my eyes i still imagine the dream scene, much like in real life when you close your eyes you still sort of know what is around you. also if the dream scene fades i do loose the dream

on a side note, has anyone tryed having a staring competition in a dream? if so what happened?

Ive never had any problems with closing my eyes in dreams. Because that is only taking away one sense. You have at least four other senses and since it is a dream probably more than that. I dont understand how only losing one sense could make you lose your dream.

Though I do know kinda what you are talking about with the dreams lasting even when you cant see. I had a dream where I was just thinking I had no body at all so I couldnt see feel hear taste or smell anything. I couldnt even sense anything around me I was in nothingness but it didnt wake me up.

Originally Posted by Waterknight

Ive never had any problems with closing my eyes in dreams. Because that is only taking away one sense. You have at least four other senses and since it is a dream probably more than that. I dont understand how only losing one sense could make you lose your dream.

Though I do know kinda what you are talking about with the dreams lasting even when you cant see. I had a dream where I was just thinking I had no body at all so I couldnt see feel hear taste or smell anything. I couldnt even sense anything around me I was in nothingness but it didnt wake me up.

That sounds like just sleeping normal with blackness and all. Except it may lasted longer.

Originally Posted by Puffin

I'm finding it a bit hard to type this out and explain it!

Sometimes when we lucid dream, we're unlucky in the sense that we're unable to see. We can only see dark shapes in blackness, or everything may be very faded out, or there might be nothing at all. But our dreams often, in this case, don't end right away.

When we're lucid, we sometimes close our eyes, which ends the dream in most cases. Why does purposefully losing your sight end the dream, but the dream taking your site away doesn't?

What I find is my vision will always start to slip. Maybe I have an expectation for this to happen, or I'm at the end of my REM cycles. Closing my eyes in lucid dreams always seems to mess with my lucidity.

However, if you feel the vision to start being taken away, or you close your eyes, keep telling yourself to not move and to keep your eyes closed. Just imagine a dream scene, and it'll put you right back into it!

Sort of like a DEILD, but I don't believe you wake up at all.

Why would you not move? from my own personel experience if i lose sight I should move to reinforce the fact that I am there. Oh and if I run into something then that is good and bad. It will hurt but it will also help me by knowing that there is something right in fron of me. For me loss of vision in dreams only means the sharpening of other senses. In fact I have closed my eyes in dreams before to be all luke skywalker and trust the force instead of my eyes.

Originally Posted by Puffin

I'm finding it a bit hard to type this out and explain it!

Sometimes when we lucid dream, we're unlucky in the sense that we're unable to see. We can only see dark shapes in blackness, or everything may be very faded out, or there might be nothing at all. But our dreams often, in this case, don't end right away.

When we're lucid, we sometimes close our eyes, which ends the dream in most cases. Why does purposefully losing your sight end the dream, but the dream taking your site away doesn't?

they're two completely different things. Having trouble seeing can also end your dream- but anyway closing your eyes can be associated with going to sleep and in a more general perspective loosing consiousness. See where i'm getting to?