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      Well, thought I would give this topic a bump as it has been a while.

      An idea I have had about this method introduced in my first post has come to mind, though I have not tried it. I was thinking about the method, and noticed somewhat of a theme that might be what is making it so effective. Part of the concept is not only proving to myself a change in behavior, but also convincing others by making it a truth to them as well, better confirming my own goal. It starts out as a lie, really, but with the idea and belief it will turn into a truth after some work. Though however it also greatly hinges on personal experience, where I have to experience what I am trying to change for it to be effective. So for the banana story, I had to taste the banana, for the laughing I had to create an artificial laugh to form it into a genuine one. However, the first part of this concept is still possible for lucid dreams, even though the second is not. So to finally throw out my question. Would it be possible to convince yourself and others that you are currently a master of lucid dreams, having success on a daily basis, while attaching the experience to a different, yet similar and related event which will transfer over to the idea of lucidity? If so, this would bring about lucidity, which would confirm your "lie" into a truth making you really a lucid master that needs to put little effort into succeeding.

      This is just an idea that came to mind, and though I haven't tried it, I would like to hear what other people think about this concept.

      EDIT: A further thought that just dawned on me.
      When training myself to like bananas, I did not actually enjoy the taste of the banana, even though I proclaimed that I did, and forced myself to eat them with the false impression that it was pleasurable. So with this in mind, perhaps I have been coming at this idea the wrong way. Perhaps the trick is to create the false impression that your natural dreams are in fact lucid, and you had full awareness in them, and to force this idea as truth into your head. In turn perhaps this would in fact effect your actual awareness in the dream state.

      Again, just an idea, have not tested it. Though if someone wishes to test this, please let me know!
      Last edited by InsaneKid; 01-16-2011 at 10:24 PM.
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