How should I continue?

[ClockworkOrange]

In last couple of months, after reading some literature, I became very intrigued by the idea of LD. Learned about 2 methods of LD (DILD and WILD). I decided to go with the first one and started practicing reality checks and stuff to achieve lucidity. To this day I wasn't successful with DILD even once, even remotely. On the other hand, since childhood I experienced this sleep paralysis phenomenon and know this state very well, so I decided to try WILD and, to my surprise, had already 2 successful LDs. The first one was just sheer excitement and all I did in my dream was a walk from my bedroom to my kitchen (it was very short). Next time I have managed to achieve this border state (when you are in SP but not in a dream yet) 2 times, and 1 time to enter LD (all in one night). This second LD was a little longer (about a minute or so), I've managed to fly around and walk a little, which was amazing at the time. But after my LD broke and I woke up I remembered it all as a dream. So distant and very blurry. Can't recall any feelings from it, no details of a dream. Only the fact, that I was lucid and that it was very exciting. Even the lucidity was somewhat questionable (I had control over myself, but not to full extent). So I have some questions to LD masters out there: Does LD become more clear and detailed. Do I get more control over my actions with time, or is it always feels like a dream in the morning? Should I continue to try DILD, or should I concentrate my efforts on WILD? Is it possible (with time and skill) to enter LD every night? Is it possible to be lucid in a non REM state (to be lucid all the time) and is it worth it?

[MasterMind]

Your dreams (both non-lucid and lucid dreams) get more vivid and detailed as you get more and more aware. DILD can feel like a lottery, if I were you I would look up DEILD which is a WILD technique it's both a method to induce lucid dreams but also to chain them if you wake up from it. It is possible to get aware of a dream every night. I use DEILD and DILD to become lucid almost every night, however then I don't mean fully aware lucid dream experiences, you can see the differences of my lucid dreams in my Dream Journal. Sometimes you are as aware and the dream is as in real life, but sometimes you might be aware that you are dreaming but get weird delusions like for example that you think your dream dad is your real dad, and you waste your lucidity on trying to explain that he is dreaming... I have had a few long lasting lucid dreams but I have a lot of lucidity moments. I mainly focus on REM so I am not sure how it feels to dream in non-rem. So I can't answer that question =) (Maybe I have experienced lucidity in non-rem, but in that case I have not being able to tell the difference.) If you need anymore help just say the word

[Matte87]

Even if it's a lucid dream, it's still a dream. Your ability to recall dreams is very important when it comes to learning how to lucid dream. It's because if you can't remember having them, they haven't really happened. So I suggest you work on your recall. To recall more details, lie perfectly still and allow yourself to almost slip back into sleep, if you relax you'll notice that the "dream memory" comes back to you and you can probe those memories. Rewind the dream in your head starting from the last thing you remember to the very beginning. Details and conversations and everything you can remember, that's what you want to write down. If you do this for all your dreams when you wake up you'll soon be able to recall ten minutes long LD's in great detail. But yeah, they do get more clear and detailed in time. I think this has to do with the fact that you learn to stabilize the dream and have it more clear as much as your ability to recall it. Focus on WILD. Yes it is. But even masters get it wrong sometimes. But there are people who have trained themselves from scratch to enter LD's multiple times a night. You can be lucid in a non REM state, but the dream won't be very vivid and stable. And no, I don't think it'll be worth it. Imagine having the option to eat candy all day for the rest of your life. You'd be sick of it. You need something to compare your lucids to for them to remain special, or they wouldn't be special. That's my point of view atleast.

[Rothgar]

Hey, just a comment on DILDs...you can get pretty proficient with them. I had 3 the other night, and while not every night, I now usually have several a week. More like golf than the lottery...you dont always hit a good drive but you definitely hit more with practice. Unfortunately DEILDS have yet to work for me.

[ClockworkOrange]

Thanks for reply guys If I will only practice WILD, will I get at least some DILDs? I thought, since my mind will be all set to be lucid, will it help me to become lucid while in a dream? Imagine having the option to eat candy all day for the rest of your life. I will have to disagree here. From my point of view, you can' have TOO much time in your life. Although I yet to learn how does being frequently lucid impacts your life, but I was hoping to use this night time for learning about myself and the world. Not necessarily seeing dreams, just being alone with myself without real world problems interfering with my thinking.

[MasterMind]

I only focus on DEILD and even though I sometimes get a succesful DEILD I actually have more DILDs than DEILDs, but if I focus on succeeding a DILD, well I don't. F*ck Logic xD

[Matte87]

Using candy as a parable was a bad choice, lucid dreaming has infinite possibilities and gives satisfaction in so many different areas and ways. However, I'd like a night of peace every once and a while. Wake up and not remember waking up in the middle of the night or a single fragment.

[ClockworkOrange]

Using candy as a parable was a bad choice, lucid dreaming has infinite possibilities and gives satisfaction in so many different areas and ways. However, I'd like a night of peace every once and a while. Wake up and not remember waking up in the middle of the night or a single fragment. That's true. My question was more if I could achieve something like that, not that I would do it every night. But somehow, I'm afraid that too much of LD will lead me to a state, when I won't have non lucid dreams, even if I would want to

[melanieb]

I doubt you could ever not have non-lucid dreams. I have plenty of lucid dreams but even with as many as two or three in a night there is still plenty of time for non-lucids. Some people here, including me, can remember as many as 6 to 10 dreams a night. I think Matte87 and MindWalker gave you some good info. I need not add to it. I can say that if you find WILD easier to achieve then stick with it. Why mess with something that works?

[MasterMind]

I think Matte87 and MindWalker gave you some good info. I need not add to it. I'm not a MindWalker o. O

[melanieb]

Myapologies, MasterMind. I have been reading a lot of threads and my own mind added details. Still, I credit your post.

[gab]

I would still continue practice for DILDs - RCs, awareness and mantras. All of those will make it easier for WILDs also. Then you actively WILD, but if it fails, you still have a good chance to get a DILD.

[Draco77100]

ClockworkOrange: Having a dream journal, as mentioned earlier, will help A LOT with recall, and how vivid your dreams are. I started into lucid dreaming a month ago, and now am remembering on average 3 dreams per night. And in the rest of my life time before keeping a dream journal, I remembered maybe 10. If you do have a journal, your dreams will get myth more vivid very quickly.

[Mancon]

If I will only practice WILD, will I get at least some DILDs? I thought, since my mind will be all set to be lucid, will it help me to become lucid while in a dream? It is possible to get some DILDs while only practicing WILD. I have been only practicing WILD for a long time now (doing reality checks from time to time) and I get A DILD 1-2 times a month.