Seltiez I personally wouldn't recommend you to try to feel pain ( unless you're just going to pinch yourself or something), since the dream can be as real as waking life and if you believe you will feel pain you sure WILL. But to my personal reason why I'm trying to achieve LD's is simple ( now, since before I just wanted to fly and stuff). I want to enter a persistent realm

, and return to that exactly same realm in my every lucid after. I haven't really made any progress with my goal even tough I have frequent LDs and near complete control( No I'm not saying I can control my S-consciousness, I'm interacting with it).
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