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    Thread: Why Do Some People have Lucid Dreams easier/with No effort than other people?

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      Unhappy Why Do Some People have Lucid Dreams easier/with No effort than other people?

      Some people have them easier with almost no effort. Some didn't even know what lucid dreams meant or do any dream journaling and they say they have had lucid dreams since childhood. How come some people have that and some other don't?

      I'm a person who would like to have lucids but i haven't yet. I practice everyday since 2 weeks+ and nothing yet. Even my recall is not that great.

      I'm guessing maybe people who can sleep well and people ,i dont know....but i just don't know.
      Maybe more social people get them more often? I'm not social, i'm quiet shy and don't do any social stuff in real life. i'm disabled too cognitively .
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      I wouldn't discard the possibility that some people just have an easier time realizing they are dreaming due genetics. There's a (I think she's Scottish) popular woman that showed up on the media that said she would be lucid in all her dreams because she could instantly tell the "dreamish feeling" that they would present.

      The large majority might be due specific experiences. Some just because they got lucid once and started to repeat the process, others because they suffered loads of nightmares, others because they have chronic SP, etc etc.

      The thing is, is you're practicing "famous" techniques like reality checks, questioning, etc etc, eventually you will have lucid dreams. Dream recall also might be affected by other factors, but sticking to it will still make your improve significantly. Some people here reported taking more than a month to get their first lucid, and many of them really seemed to be trying real hard from day 1. Feel free to ask for advice regarding whatever technique you're using, but also remember that this has a lot to do with sticking to it and being patient.

      Maybe more social people get them more often? I'm not social, i'm quiet shy and don't do any social stuff in real life. i'm disabled too cognitively .
      Could be wrong, but chances are that being social has very little or no impact on your ability to lucid dream. Having cognitive difficulties (don't think of yourself as a disabled person, you're just special in your own way!) will still not stop you from having a lucid dream. In the same way you can train to be more aware of your breath, you too can also become more aware of yourself and the reality around you

      PS: just to give you a scope of things, we have members that have started lucid dreaming when there was zero information around. They had to learn everything by their own. The hard way, and the lonely way. With no advice regarding their effort would pay them with more lucids or not. You're already at an huge advantage over them so think positive

      PPS: zoth can't help but laugh for people trying to induce WILDs when going to bed.
      PPPS: zoth now realizes that it takes loads of guts to keep going forward in the middle of a cloud of ignorance and uncertainty.
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      Zoth, she is Norwegian, Line Salvesen I have chatted with her in another forum. She had nightmares from an early age, and yes she just gets lucid with that dreamy feeling. That feeling is her dream sign, i guess.

      voByJunior2013: 2 weeks ? donīt worry. It takes time, and it becomes easier and more natural with time.
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      Personally I think most of it can simply go back to awareness. Some people are naturally aware and self-aware and question what's around them, resulting in natural lucid dreams. This can be a result of any number of things and there's no really one answer for it (curiosity for example is a common reason). Usually others don't really think about what's around them and more about just daily things in life (school, work, family, etc). This isn't necessarily a bad thing; it just means that you need to train yourself to be more aware, which, really, is what lucid dreaming breaks down to. Like VagalTone said, lucid dreaming takes time (sometimes it takes longer than others), and remember that even if you don't have a lucid dream yet, you're still improving and getting closer and closer every night as you improve dream recall and practice lucid dreaming methods.
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      Quote Originally Posted by voByJunior2013 View Post
      Some people have them easier with almost no effort. Some didn't even know what lucid dreams meant or do any dream journaling and they say they have had lucid dreams since childhood. How come some people have that and some other don't?

      I'm a person who would like to have lucids but i haven't yet. I practice everyday since 2 weeks+ and nothing yet. Even my recall is not that great.

      I'm guessing maybe people who can sleep well and people ,i dont know....but i just don't know.
      Maybe more social people get them more often? I'm not social, i'm quiet shy and don't do any social stuff in real life. i'm disabled too cognitively .
      I do not know why, I've always had lucid dreams since I was a little kid, and my mom did too. We used to talk to each other about them and she would give me cool ideas of stuff to do. But I know that my dad never even remembers any of his dreams, let alone becomes lucid in them.

      But I do know that the common theme between me and my mom is that we both wake up a LOT during the night, and my dad sleeps like a rock. So maybe it does have to do with how restful/restless you sleep. Also, I tend to constantly question whether I'm awake or sleeping, whether life itself is just another form of dreaming and whether I can become lucid in this dream too?

      I'm also super shy and socially awkward, verging on aspergers, so I don't think that has anything to do with it.
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      I think it depends a lot on how much value you put into lucid dreaming at an early age.
      I am sure that the reason why children tend to be lucid more often than adults is because they have a natural curiousity for waking life, since everything is still relatively new to them.
      Just look at very young children at 1-2 years old for example, they gawk at everything they see and listen intently to other people, because they find everything unexplored and fascinating.
      This will obviously make them very aware of their environment, and this should logically result in more awareness during dreams as well, or at least a kind of awareness that allows them to make decisions.

      Stephen LaBerge found dreams very precious when he was a child, and he has said himself that he was able to revisit the same lucid dream adventure over and over just because he wanted to and because he believed he could do it.
      It is this kind of curiousity and confidence that is the key to lucid dreaming - really feel a genuine interest for dreams in general, and try to be as present in them as possible.
      All lucid dreaming techniques are in some way based on awareness.

      Also, two weeks is nothing, I can assure you that at least half of us on this site were practicing for several months before getting our first lucid dreams.
      You are bound to succeed if you keep practicing.

      Think of it this way - your next opportunity to become lucid is never further than a day away.
      You could very likely become lucid tonight, or the night after that.
      Rest assured that the more you practice, the more likely you are to become lucid the following night.
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      Thanks so much Laurelindo and everyone else. Sadly now i'm having sleep problems. can't go back to sleep when i get up, i even stay an hour trying and nothing , i dont go into deep stage.( I made another thread about this) so my recall and lucid practice is getting ruined. It sucks

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      Quote Originally Posted by voByJunior2013 View Post
      Thanks so much Laurelindo and everyone else. Sadly now i'm having sleep problems. can't go back to sleep when i get up, i even stay an hour trying and nothing , i dont go into deep stage.( I made another thread about this) so my recall and lucid practice is getting ruined. It sucks
      Don't try too hard to fall back to sleep, this will just make you frustrated.
      Instead, just lie back and relax, and visualize some pleasant scenes.
      It is much easier to fall asleep if you just try to take it easy and let it happen on its own.

      Also make sure that you have a good sleep schedule.
      You should find a time in the evening when you feel that you are ready to go to sleep, but not so tired that you are exhausted.
      Try to find your personal time when you begin to feel tired, and try to go to sleep at that time most nights.
      Of course, some people think it is pleasant to stay awake far into the night (I am a major night owl myself, so I tend to stay up until dawn if I have nothing specific to do in the morning), so that can be an obstacle - but it usually feels very good to go to bed early, so that you feel you have a lot of time to relax and still be able to get up reasonably early.
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      wake up about halfway through your sleep. you get more rem in the second half of the night. as we all know rem is when most of our dreams take place. before electricity humans slept in a different pattern we slept first sleep and then second sleep meaning we basically woke up through the night then go back and finish sleeping later. so you should try that. if you go to sleep at 11 wake up at 3-4 for 20-60mins then go back to sleep. it seems to work for me, however i sleep at 3:30 am then my roommates wake me up at 7 when they go to work then i usually get non lucids in that second half but no lucids yet but that's why we're all here right. and remember with enough willpower and perseverance we can make anything happen.

      I see you have trouble falling back asleep when woken might i suggest to lay on the ground, yes the ground, for 20-30 and genuinely try to sleep on the uncomfortable ground and then after 20 lay back in your bed and do the exact same you will be so comfortable in comparison to laying on the ground that you will fall asleep very fast. it has worked for me in the past.

      don't worry either 2 weeks is hardly a long time to try and get a lucid. I've been at it much much longer with no luck yet although i got close one night

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