Thread: I want to be in my Lucid Dream or in Astral Plane forever

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

That's a fallacy. Many of us have had dreams involving dying. Often the dream then leads to one of an afterlife or becoming a zombie or just ends one dream and begins another. Besides that I don't see what point you were trying to make? Are you implying that if you don't eat your body will die but your dreaming self will continue? Where's the evidence?

I meant that, if u die in ur dream u will start a new dream or will wake up in this reality, which means if u die in this reality u gonna wake up in other reality or existence whatever u say. The reality we r living in right now, our consciousness were made like that, where we believe if we don't eat we gonna die and so it happens. From our consciousness we see those who r not eating in this reality r having lack of nourishment in their bodies and dying, but, did u ever think abt them? can u confirm that they experience the same as u r seeing or experiencing from ur perspective? that's what I was trying to tell u

Originally Posted by UdIe

I meant that, if u die in ur dream u will start a new dream or will wake up in this reality, which means if u die in this reality u gonna wake up in other reality or existence whatever u say.

Well, first, as I already said, many people have dreams where they die and then find themselves in an afterlife or as a zombie - so the first part of your statement is wrong. And the second part does not follow logically at all from it. Even if it was true that when you die in a dream you wake up or go into another dream, it doesn't mean anything necessarily.

Originally Posted by UdIe

The reality we r living in right now, our consciousness were made like that, where we believe if we don't eat we gonna die and so it happens. From our consciousness we see those who r not eating in this reality r having lack of nourishment in their bodies and dying, but, did u ever think abt them? can u confirm that they experience the same as u r seeing or experiencing from ur perspective? that's what I was trying to tell u

These things you're saying are just wild speculation - I asked for evidence and you haven't supplied any. What you're saying essentially is that all of our senses are somehow being tricked, and every scientific device we use to study the world is also being tricked, somehow in a way so they all agree completely on the nature of the world.

Ok, if this is true, first of all how would you know it? Second, how on earth would you know anything about the 'real' world - what kind of senses or devices are you using, and what makes you think they're not being tricked?

Since all the evidence overwhelmingly supports the world being as it seems to be, and there's really no evidence to suggest otherwise, what do you base these claims on?

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

Well, first, as I already said, many people have dreams where they die and then find themselves in an afterlife or as a zombie - so the first part of your statement is wrong. And the second part does not follow logically at all from it. Even if it was true that when you die in a dream you wake up or go into another dream, it doesn't mean anything necessarily.

whatever u think is ur point of view and i can't force u to believe what m believing, BTW, when u r saying that when some ppl die in their dream and find themselves in an afterlife or as a "Zombie" , how can u b so sure that my statement is wrong? and if u mentioned it literally they find themselves in an afterlife or become a "Zombie" , then should provide me some evidence. Did u die at least once or if so can u remember anything from ur past life? I can give ur answer and that is "No". Therefore why u r acting so Inelastic, when ur statement doesn't have any evidence and in some cases don't make any sense! BTW, ur statement abt the "Zombie" making the conversation kinda weird.

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

These things you're saying are just wild speculation - I asked for evidence and you haven't supplied any. What you're saying essentially is that all of our senses are somehow being tricked, and every scientific device we use to study the world is also being tricked, somehow in a way so they all agree completely on the nature of the world.

Ok, if this is true, first of all how would you know it? Second, how on earth would you know anything about the 'real' world - what kind of senses or devices are you using, and what makes you think they're not being tricked?

Since all the evidence overwhelmingly supports the world being as it seems to be, and there's really no evidence to suggest otherwise, what do you base these claims on?

when Sir Isaac Newton, invented the theory of gravity, everybody thought he is crazy, when Galileo Galilei first explained about the "Earth moves around the Sun" theory, he has been tried to be killed. There is many more stuffs happened in history where ppl got harassed for a certain claim and later ppl found their claims were "TRUE" . anyway, m not saying ur one is wrong and my one is true, but, if my one is true, all exist in one, at the same time nothing exists! The evidence is in font of u. Observe ur world and surroundings carefully and u will know the truth.

Originally Posted by UdIe

whatever u think is ur point of view and i can't force u to believe what m believing, BTW, when u r saying that when some ppl die in their dream and find themselves in an afterlife or as a "Zombie" , how can u b so sure that my statement is wrong? and if u mentioned it literally they find themselves in an afterlife or become a "Zombie" , then should provide me some evidence. Did u die at least once or if so can u remember anything from ur past life? I can give ur answer and that is "No". Therefore why u r acting so Inelastic, when ur statement doesn't have any evidence and in some cases don't make any sense! BTW, ur statement abt the "Zombie" making the conversation kinda weird.

So you're going to treat facts as if they're no more valid than anyone's merest conjecture?

Originally Posted by UdIe

when Sir Isaac Newton, invented the theory of gravity, everybody thought he is crazy, when Galileo Galilei first explained about the "Earth moves around the Sun" theory, he has been tried to be killed. There is many more stuffs happened in history where ppl got harassed for a certain claim and later ppl found their claims were "TRUE" . anyway, m not saying ur one is wrong and my one is true, but, if my one is true, all exist in one, at the same time nothing exists! The evidence is in font of u. Observe ur world and surroundings carefully and u will know the truth.

Really, you bring up 2 great scientists when what you're presenting is spiritualism? Or are you a published scientist yourself as well?

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

So you're going to treat facts as if they're no more valid than anyone's merest conjecture?




Really, you bring up 2 great scientists when what you're presenting is spiritualism? Or are you a published scientist yourself as well?

the fact is, u have to say something, weather that makes any sense or not.

Originally Posted by Udle

when Sir Isaac Newton, invented the theory of gravity, everybody thought he is crazy, when Galileo Galilei first explained about the "Earth moves around the Sun" theory, he has been tried to be killed. There is many more stuffs happened in history where ppl got harassed for a certain claim and later ppl found their claims were "TRUE".

Yes, however, theories require evidence in order to be scientifically accepted.
Scientists do not claim to "know" everything and they are always willing to have an open mind about things, but they are also very picky on what is worth taking seriously.

Originally Posted by Laurelindo

Yes, however, theories require evidence in order to be scientifically accepted.
Scientists do not claim to "know" everything and they are always willing to have an open mind about things, but they are also very picky on what is worth taking seriously.

yes and most of their theories weren't accepted in first place, so that they faced a lot of trouble during their days

I have died in dreams many times. Usually I just respawn like in a video game.