I keep waking up after getting lucid

[Martijn0162]

Heyy, So last night, after my WBTB, I had my fourth lucid dream in which I wake up right after getting lucid. In my first LD I was obviously too happy but in the following 3 LD's I was just calm and relaxed, but I'm still waking up.. Anybody who has experienced this too and got some tips for me?

[ixJake]

I don't have much experience, but I thought I could try and help anyway! Do you get chance to perform a few stabilising techniques? Or is it an instant wake up? Perhaps you're overthinking it, which is adding to the problem!

[Martijn0162]

Yep, it's litteraly 2 seconds after I realize I'm dreaming. Hmm, I don't think I can call it overthinking, rather high dedication.

[ixJake]

Not sure then mate! Like I said I haven't got much experience yet, I'm just going off of what I've read! Might just be a matter of practice

[lunagoddess]

That tends to happen to me with WILDS. Even if I'm relaxed I think it's because once I'm lucid I automatically think about how I was trying to become to lucid and now I am...which means I inevitably think about my waking self and thus become aware of my real body and surroundings. I think it just takes practice and a deeper level of relaxation, at least in my experience. Once you get lucid you need to have enough focus to remain fully immersed in the dream while maintaining awareness...which is a fine line. Though I'm curious to hear others' advice. The important thing is don't give up! Keep trying and you'll get there! It sounds like you're doing great!

[MisakaMikoto]

Hi, It might be either because you don't stabilize lucid dream or because your becoming lucid at very end of your rem cycle maybe ? I'd suggest you checking out this tutorial: Dream Stabilization and Clarity Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

[Martijn0162]

Hi, It might be either because you don't stabilize lucid dream or because your becoming lucid at very end of your rem cycle maybe ? I'd suggest you checking out this tutorial: Dream Stabilization and Clarity Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views The point is, I don't even have time to stabilize. I'll read through the tutorial to see if I can get something useful out of it

[LucidEveryNight]

Another thing is try not to think about your body in the bed try stabilize at the first chance you have because even thinking about your 'real body' sleeping can cause you to wake up or to wake into a false awakening it happened to me last night I woke up in a false awakening then Rc became lucid then thought about that I'm actually sleeping in bed then woke up straight away only I was in a false awakening again but diddnt realize it! Lol doh!

[Martijn0162]

I think it's just a matter of time, and being a bit more experienced. Then I will get a little bit more used to becoming lucid and it wouldn't be such a 'shock' anymore. Thanks

[ThreeCat]

You may be becoming lucid during a dreamlet (which is the very beginning of a dream). If so, you may want to sit back (figuratively speaking) and just observe the dream before doing anything at all. This may give the scene time to stabilize. Difficult to say after only four (though this is a great accomplishment--keep it up!). Just keep practicing. The problem may resolve on its own. I would also recommend some form of stability meditation (shamatha).

[Martijn0162]

You may be becoming lucid during a dreamlet (which is the very beginning of a dream). If so, you may want to sit back (figuratively speaking) and just observe the dream before doing anything at all. This may give the scene time to stabilize. This is exactly what I am trying, every time I become lucid. I try to let myself become 'one' with the dream. But until now the dream starts to fade right at the moment I realise I'm dreaming. Example: I was at some sort of party in a backyard of a really big house. There was some sort of museum inside of the house. I was looking around until an old lady (around 55-60) said to me from the next floor: 'come here, I think you are using a videocamera'. She thought I was taking pictures or something so I went upstairs. She was dressed in some sort of lingerie and she took a blanket and tried to lay under it with me. I ran away and went outside to tell all the people that there's an old lady trying to assail me. Only a few people heard me and went inside with me. We walked slowly and silently untill there's a door with a glass window, it's locked.. I'm trying to smash through it with my elbow, the first two time it wasn't hard enough, the third time the window broke. Someone behind me asked me: ''wow, doesn't that hurt?'' I replied: ''No, it's a dream.'' at that moment I get 'sucked' into my body, not even excited (because I know that will ruin my dream). But at the same moment, the dream is starting to fade and in like 3 seconds I can feel myself laying in bed again. -------------------------- The point is, I know how to stabilize, I know what to do... But the dream doesn't give me chance... I think it's just a matter of experience before I can actually stabilize and do something.

[fogelbise]

^In that example, at which point was it that you realized that it was all a dream? Was it right there when someone asked you if it hurt? Either way, based on what you are telling us, it will get better with time but you can always still get short ones if you are at the end of REM when it is often easier to become lucid. However, you should also make sure that you are not just awakening into a false awakening (I am sure I missed tons when I was a newbie) which can be achieved by getting into a habit of RC'ing at every awakening (easier said than done).

[ThreeCat]

Couple of things. You may "feel" calm and relaxed, but your mind may not be at all. If you are unfamiliar with what your mind feels like when it is quiet (and I think most people who do not meditate are) then you could actually be experiencing some mental tension upon becoming lucid and not fully realize it. For instance, you were running around and very concerned about being "assailed" by the old woman DC. Those emotions are real and the stress they cause is real too. Lucidity does not always erase all of that tension and excitation, and becoming lucid (especially if you have lots of expectations of the dream realm) can increase that tension. So I am not entirely sure you were "calm" upon realizing you were dreaming. But even so, you felt calm, so: 1.) Doesn't sound like a dreamlet, but it still could be one. 2.) Like fogelbise said, it could be the endof REM, which would explain the wake-up 3.) You may be experiencing negative expectation: at that moment I get 'sucked' into my body, not even excited (because I know that will ruin my dream). You "knew" that getting excited would ruin the dream, and so your dream ended prematurely anyways. It may be that the dream ended because on some level you feared that it would, and you actualized that negative expectation with a wake-up. At any rate, just keep practicing. I think this problem will end up fixing itself.

[Martijn0162]

^In that example, at which point was it that you realized that it was all a dream? Was it right there when someone asked you if it hurt? No, it was right after I said that it didn't hurt, because it was a dream. You "knew" that getting excited would ruin the dream, and so your dream ended prematurely anyways. It may be that the dream ended because on some level you feared that it would, and you actualized that negative expectation with a wake-up. At any rate, just keep practicing. I think this problem will end up fixing itself. Yeah, I'll keep you informed

[FOATL]

it took me about 6 or 7 times of becoming lucid before i actually stopped waking up before i wanted to... my first couple times used to freak me out.....the second couple of times kinda would "shock" me.....after that, i remember going lucid, and telling myself to "calm down".... once i calmed myself down, then i could finally rub my hands and call out commands and stay in the dream long enuff to do anything! it just took some getting used to..... you are making great progress, keep it up man now, i wont even consider a dream a "lucid" dream if i wake up immediately after....... i only consider lucid dreams ones in which i can control and accomplish at least ONE thing.....lol