First of all. I dont think you asked a stupid question, I think it was a very good one since it seems very sincere. |
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Hope this isn't a stupid question, maybe someone can relate. I have never had my first lucid dream yet, as I find awareness absolutely impossible to adhere to. |
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First of all. I dont think you asked a stupid question, I think it was a very good one since it seems very sincere. |
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You are not your thoughts...
Well, for the most part, I want to use lucidity as an escape from real life, though I don't think that's a good reason to become lucid. I hate the stress and worries that accompany waking life, but I can't really do much to make that better. |
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Sorry to hear about your struggle. |
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"Parable.- Those thinkers in whom all stars move in cyclic orbits are not the most profound: whoever looks into himself as into vast space and carries galaxies in himself also knows how irregular all galaxies are; they lead into the chaos and labyrinth of existence."- Friedrich Nietzsche, the gay science, First published in 1882 revised in 1887, translated by Walter Kaufmann [/SIGPIC]
You're response is brilliant, Valis1. The problem is that I know all this stuff, but it's hard to just fake the confidence thing. How can I really believe that I'm able to achieve lucidity? I think it's hard to make myself feel like I deserve becoming lucid since I have such a low self esteem. Yeah, it's a problem for sure. |
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To give you my honest opinion. To use lucidity as an escape from life might be very counter productive. And here is why: If you have to many worries in your daily life, then that means that you are even more in your mind than you are aware of your mind. By being aware of our mind, is to take a step back from thoughts and see things from a more clear perspective and thereby becoming more aware of our surrounding as it is. I also think that you would be able to get more out of lucid dreaming if you already feel good in general before pursuing such thing. |
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You are not your thoughts...
Learning that lucidity isn't possible doesn't bode well for lucidity. The more you expect a learned inability to become lucid during a dream, the more likely you will reject evidence to the contrary during a dream. I think you've fallen into this trap and need to get out. |
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Last edited by dolphin; 09-25-2016 at 06:42 AM.
Thanks for all the help, but I also think there's still some fear left. I guess just fear of the unknown first lucid dream. I realize that I can just expect happy thoughts and that it's all a creation of my mind anyway, but I don't know. |
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Are you afraid the dream will turn into a nightmare as soon as you become lucid? |
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I think you are right of the most part. It's true that thoughts are a creation of mind, but it's hard to expect happy thoughts when we dont choose our thoughts. And anxiety and fear does come to us on their own terms. This does not mean that they cant be tranceded though.. The fear need to be located before it can be desolved. |
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You are not your thoughts...
Hey Mgc88, I see that you have a DV join date of May 2012. What have you been doing the last 4 years? I only ask because I'm curious as to what you have already tried. Four years is a long time to have no success. |
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First off, I do keep a dream journal and it's a habit by this point. |
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Last edited by Mgc88; 09-25-2016 at 10:35 PM.
It is possible to become lucid without daytime awareness. Personally, in all my LDing practice I've done hardly any daytime awareness (sometimes doing reality checks in bed upon waking up) yet throughout the past 4 years, I've had about 1350 LDs. |
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OP, this is exactly the problem I have as well, thanks for bringing it up |
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I suppose one difference for me is that my first Intentional Lucid was not my first lucid dream. So I knew when I began trying that it was possible. As I had had lucid dreams long ago. I am glad that you said that you have a dream journal, as that would be my first question. Also that you mention that you have had some semi or false lucids, as my next question would be have you had any near misses. |
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Last edited by cooleymd; 09-27-2016 at 01:36 AM.
Sure LUCID DREAMS are all fun and games until someone loses a third eye.
Okay, I never expected this many responses. Right now, I'm unsure if I will even try to lucid dream. I want to, but I've never stuck to one technique for more than two weeks or so. |
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I got the overall impression that you seem unsure if you really wanted to lucid dreaming first, since it seemed like you had other issues that you wanted to cover up with lucid dreaming. BUT! If you keep looking out for more fullfilling reasons for you to pursue lucid dreaming rather than cover up issues in waking life, then Im sure that your willingness to pursue lucidity and increase your awareness will come naturally too you, instead of you trying to chase your motivation with vague reasons. |
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You are not your thoughts...
Sure you can even use audio while your sleeping/dreaming in an attempt to induce. I have tried this N times, number of successful inductions like once or twice. |
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Last edited by cooleymd; 09-27-2016 at 05:31 AM.
Sure LUCID DREAMS are all fun and games until someone loses a third eye.
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