Welcome to Dream Views! Thanks for starting such a good topic. |
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Hello everyone, I am investigating a possible connection between lucid dreaming and the ability of a person to visualize images in their mind's eye, I haven't really seen anyone speak about this anywhere, so I'd like everyone who wants to to write on a scale of 1 to 10 how well they can visualize stuff and how often they get lucid. Bonus, you can write what the most effective technique is for you, especially if you're bad at visualizing. |
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Welcome to Dream Views! Thanks for starting such a good topic. |
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My ability to visualize changes depending on the setting and situation I'm in. At any given time my ability is about a 2-4, but when meditating or listening to music with my eyes closed and relaxing and visualizing for fun, it becomes more like a 4-6. Personally I don't think I'm very good at visualizing, I'm never more better than just decent at it under optimal conditions. |
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I think there are 2 crucial things that relate visualization (in)ability to lucidity: |
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Okay, I'll add my 2 cents worth: |
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So ... is this the real universe, or is it just a preliminary study?
I was going to mention that about the scale. While I am a 10 for the ability to fully immerse in imagery and daydream, I can not actually recreate any form of smell and only vaguely the sense of taste. Sageous once purposed this is due to the sense of smell being wired to stay active in the real world while the other senses can be free to dream. Basically animals need to wake up when they smell something wrong, so perhaps the wiring is very different. Taste on the other hand is more than 50% composed of smell. Taste is both smell and input from taste buds. I am not sure anyone can max out visualization that involves smell. In dreams I have worked very hard to actually smell things and at best it is like having a bad cold. |
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Perhaps it is different, but at the same time it has a very large effect on dream recall and induction techniques, both by the simple fact that I and other aphantasics can't even do techniques like DEILD, VILD and the visual part of MILD, and as I said possibly due to helping a person focus more, especially during that half awake state when focus is required the most for an induction. I don't have that, I can only count without seeing/visualizing anything and I have to rely on that if I want to do a WILD type induction, FILD also, though it never worked for me. |
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My place on your scale is probably around a two, I think, and my dreams are always vivid. |
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This is thought provoking, and my current thought is this: words and sentences are properties of the physical universe; they were designed to categorize experiences, and when applied to experiences from dream universes they help "bring the dream into the physical universe", so to speak. If no words are applied to whatever is experienced, the experience may not make it into waking awareness, and thus no dream recall. At times I dream in a kind of silent awareness of whatever is going on, during which time I never mentally verbalize or categorize anything (personally, I consider this astral projections, but YMMV). These trips can go on for a long time, with lots happening, but generally I have relatively little recall of the kinds of things that took place. I have only a meager story to tell myself afterwards, and I generally don't even have names for many of the things witnessed. |
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So ... is this the real universe, or is it just a preliminary study?
I'm probably around a 4 on your scale. I would not say that I visualize well....but I don't really try to often. I do get strong imagery during hypnagogic meditation but those come on their own. |
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The more I gaze....the more I crave to see
When you next stand at cliff's edge....will you finally learn to fly?
I think my visualization is around 4-6. It's weird, bc i visualize with very good detail when i think about people, animals, etc; but struggle when visualizing landscapes and nature. My lucid dream rate is a few per year (right now) |
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Boy, I can relate! Someone said they thought everyone remembered all their lucids. Not the case with me at all. I can work up to having great vivid recall for some types of dreams, but you mention the whole astral travel thing. I would describe it the same. Some adventures take place that must have been a long story, but often the things witnessed make sense, at the time, in a confusing way you do not think about, and then when awake the ideas are so removed from this existence very few words will come to describe what was experienced. |
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I LD between 1-3 times a week, and I can visualize things pretty well, especially after a party lol. You may be onto something. -shrug- |
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---o--- my DCs say I'm dreamy.
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