Thread: foolproof Instant WILD anytime ...

Originally Posted by Snowy Egypt

I say LD's obtained WITHOUT drugs are the best LDs. Just like I say anything done without drugs is the best way of doing things.

I don't share your prejudice towards magical plants and say: LDs are LDs and if a Marvelous plant can bring dreams of a higher consciousness and so aid Lucidity, then that is very handy and positive. Your judgement of "Drugs" closes you up for great experiences resulting from the divine powers our plant allies offer us. I've allways found it hard to grasp how many people here reason that utilising Plants to aid Lucid Dreaming is unnatural. :S

Originally Posted by mel_noah

All very interesting.

For the person who mentioned that acid has never permanently damaged anyone I beg to differ. Way back when (in my younger years) I took 8 hits of pure liquid acid and the trip that ensued was amazing at first. After about an hour or so I began to over heat. My friends placed me underneath a cold shower and steam rose off of my head. I literally fried my brain that day. The excruciating pain was something I cannot really describe, to sit there tripping and know that your brain is frying like an egg on a skillet, it was extremely terrifying...talk about taking an initially good trip and turning it into something horrible! For almost two days I could not speak. For over a week I bumbled around like an idiot. To this day, (almost a decade later) at times my tongue "feels" like it is swelling and I have trouble speaking. It comes in waves, and thankfully occurs a lot less than it did in the past.

Would I have died? I really doubt it. Can it do damage? Yes it definitely can. I was terrified of all hallucinogens after that (and for the most part I still am).

I don't want my experience to hinder anyone else’s' curiosity. Just remember that often time moderation is the key to success.

Side Note about Acid:
8 hits of pure acid? Well Acid is harmless, UNLESS off course you take the rediculous dose you took. Take too much of anything and it will be poisonous. Even water. Google "Water Poisoning". Somehow it would never occur to me to take 8 hits of acid. I've allways thought 1,5 blotter is the limit of desirable effects. Heard more of such stories from a friend who's lived in Hawaii for 2 years: In the US people seem to take AT least 4 hits a time and usually alot more. You simply OverDosed massively. It was you being dangerious, not Acid. Everyone who DOES acid should know that a standard dose and good trip is in between 200 and 400 micrograms. 8 hits of pure acid, assuming they were 400microgram doses(Pure acid: Liquid?) it means you took about 3200 micrograms: A REDICULOUSLY large dose.
OFF COURSE you experienced physical symptoms. A somewhat wiser user, like me, would know that taking that much is likely to result in physical symptoms and undesirably strong psychedelic effects. That won't ever happen if you take a normal dose; In between 200 micrograms and 400 micrograms. In blotters that translates into 1 good blotter(douced in acid). Why take so much?? Off course even acid can bring unhealthy physical symptoms if taken in large enough doses.

LSD: A briljant substance, with alot of not-so-briljant users unfortunately: This is what gives substances such as acid a bad name: The users who are wreckless. SO wreckless that they can probably get into great trouble playing Golf. When you want to do a drug, you'd do good going to erowid and read experience reports about it, especially the ones of folks who took it way TOO FAR. Your hyperthermia-acid experience was due to you being uninformed about a reasonable and safe dose. Had you reac Erowid Experience reports of LSD this would have Certainly Never have happened and you'd also find out that it doesn't take more than 400 micrograms to have an absolutely intense, but managable psychedelic experience.

'Nuff about acid.


Back ontopic: Salvia.
I have recently smoked some Salvia 10X extract(enhanced leaf) in a Joint. (What a wastefull method, but I wanted only minor effects:which I got)Actually I smoked 4 joints of some tobacco and 1/4th of the 0,5 grams of the extract per joint. I felt effects that were very appearant, entrancing, calmative and my attention was superstrong as with more psychedelics. Only the Clearity, of thought and Vision, was even more striking. It was as though the entire room suddenly fell silent. Much like a Non-breakthrough DMT experience.

I see how this Psychedelic Clearity, Focus and Entrancement can briljantly interact with Dreaming. So why don't you people keep your ignorant judgement to yourselves, while I and some other folks here explore the Oneirogenic potential of Salvia Divinorum?
If the Psychedelic experience is nothing for you, simply leave this Topic alone.
This is no moral discussion-Topic. This is an exploration topic. We will go there where you won't dare. Love it or hate it, but we're not waiting for your ignorant views of Magical plants. We have our own views. And since we defend them quite fiercely, assume we must have a good reason to do so.

If Salvia and Dreaming are to interact in a desirable way then I'd place a bet on Taking Salvia or Salvia Extract("Fortified" or "Enhanced" Leaf) Sublingually/Bucally as one is going to sleep (preferably in a WBTB fashion) I'm down for some Salvia Dreaming experimentation. I'll let you know when I'm up for it.