Thread: Lucid dreaming in mainstream society

Originally Posted by SleepyCookieDough

was wondering the same thing

was also wondering the same thing

Poland. There was a boom for LD-related books that were later discussed in the media. Now the whole magic of being a part of LD community is gone when you go to a mall and see people reality checking. :/

Originally Posted by Mertruve

Poland. There was a boom for LD-related books that were later discussed in the media. Now the whole magic of being a part of LD community is gone when you go to a mall and see people reality checking. :/

oh, lol! I know a girl from poland... She doesn't know about this....

Mainstream society doesn't like anything it can't control, regulate and put laws around. They're still freaked by the internet. LDs would totally psyche them out.

Honestly I would love for this to happen.

Technology follows the interest of the masses, the masses follow the media, influence the media with a crazy story~ you will have more money devoted to researching dreaming.

Maybe they will make those DreamLights or whatever again, and they could be cheap- $10.

It could also provide new windows for science and sleep medication. Perhapse even a little pill that will make you instantaniously lucid >_<

She doesn't know about this....

Ask about conscious dreaming

Terrible idea, i would like people to know more about it, but i don't want to see it on the news and tv programs, People would take major advatage of it to hurt other people and just tell lawyers that they thought it was a "Dream".

I highly disagree with this!

I wouldn't mind it, if lucid dreaming went mainstream. But people would look for the easiest way to do it. Lucid dreaming would become commercialized, and then fade out.

Originally Posted by Abra

I wouldn't mind it, if lucid dreaming went mainstream. But people would look for the easiest way to do it. Lucid dreaming would become commercialized, and then fade out.

you cant really say that.. Ld isnt something you can do in 1 shot, there be alot of greedy companys out there and new programs to suck up all our money to learn how to LD, and it wont work and people will spend even more money, making it harder and harder to LD! meaning it will make LDing even rarer, but for us. we be like gods to everone.

HOW CAN I LD Pl0x!!!

Ok, there are like a zillion of these ridiculous 2012 apocalypse theory threads all over the world, so this is your warning: Take that nonsense elsewhere. Do not post that into the on topic sections.

I don't know how I feel about the idea of LDing becoming "mainstream," but I like the idea of removing the "new age" stigma from it. Too many people think it's not possible or that someone is super-mystical/religious/philisophical if they even mention they're interested in dreams. Why shouldn't we take the time to enjoy and explore this world that's already in our heads? It's not going away any time soon.

I don't like the idea of it becoming a source of competition and profit, though. There are already sites claiming they have a "100&#37; success lucid dreaming pill" which is just a label attached to a little white piece of disolvable (sp?) substance. I don't want to start seeing commercials on TV about the latest LD-inducing gadget announcing that for four payments of $39.95 + shipping you can become aware you're dreaming. I'd rather keep lucid dreaming within the part of society that is actually interested in it and feels that it can make a difference in our lives individually and as a whole.

As has been said before, part of me likes the idea and part of me does not. In the words of Morpheus: "You take a chance either way; I leave it to you."

Originally Posted by dreamingofdreaming

25,000 years ago was when dinosaurs went extinct (top of the food chain)

I really hope you're not serious

Originally Posted by Neko-san

I really hope you're not serious

Yeah I kind of questioned that entire post, and I'm fairly certain that full moons, half moons, eclipses, etc. all end up being at specific places because of a mathematical reason. o.o

I think if it became mainstream it would then just be commercialized and then some one out there will try andbecome millionaires off of a pill that "induces LDing"(we all know someone would try and create it,and where would the fun be in that?). I dont mind it the way it is. I dont care what people think of me when I say that Im into it, I get mixed reactions from people but who cares...More people should know about it and they will find out soon enough and the ones who do are the poeple who wont try and screw it up somehow because they may actually be interested in LDing.

Ok I have to apologize for the rambled post I put up.... I did not read it over and did not edit it like i usually do, i was in a hurry and i guess a little excited. Of course i know dinosaurs went extinct millions of years ago, i mean to say that it was during one of the 25000 cycles. Anyways this is it for that topic, it was the wrong section. However, it is a breath of fresh air to see that there are intelligent and well educated people at DV. Sorry again and lets continue with the topic...

Originally Posted by Amethyst Star

I don't want to start seeing commercials on TV about the latest LD-inducing gadget announcing that for four payments of $39.95 + shipping you can become aware you're dreaming. I'd rather keep lucid dreaming within the part of society that is actually interested in it and feels that it can make a difference in our lives individually and as a whole.

I agree, once something like LD goes mainstream people will be quick to capitalize off of it. People will miss the real meaning and start grouping it with ESP, UFOs and ghost stories.

So on this topic, Im in my training class for work right now and the guy nxt to me asked waht "dreamviews" was, I explained about LDing and its something he never heard of before and has every reason why its not real and that for example when you guys say you had an LD its just some story your coming up with. I feel that alot of people will be this way because this is something so out of the ordinary they wont let themselves believe it. I dont see myself ever living an interesting life being so close-minded to things that are unknown....

Originally Posted by Patrickstar12

I feel that a lot of people will be this way because this is something so out of the ordinary they wont let themselves believe it.

It's that old idea of the only things in life that are real is what we can hear and touch and taste and see and feel. Some people don't factor in that there are more to experiences than just physical sensations. They've never experienced it and since dreams are not important to them, they couldn't care less.

Most people shrug it off, but some people take it personally when you try to describe it to them. I suppose some are afraid that if it's true, something bad will happen in their dreams so they don't want to even go in that direction. For others, they may lack the confidence that lucidity is something they can attain, so they don't even try and don't want others to suggest that they do. I wish those people wouldn't get so upset. It's not like we're going to invade their dreams and steal their soul

I guess the issue for the present is not how to make LDing mainstream, but how to project the image of lucid dreaming in its current form of "popularity."

Yeah it definitely depends on the person. I just recently told my sister about it and she said she had already been experiencing lucids and even wilds! She explained the vibrations and the voices and thought everyone had them! I then told my brother about it and he was VERY interested, he got right on DV and read everything he then told his fiance and she was just as interested.

Its interesting how some people are very open and interested in these kinds of thoughts and possibilities while others are completely closed minded. It makes you wonder if some people are by nature more in tune with the "unknown" like dreams and the power of the mind.......

I definately think that some people are just as you say in tune...and I feel bad for those who just cant open up to it. but then there are the stubborn people who just dont want to...or are scared of it. its funny tho to talk to someone about LDing and you can just tell by the look on their faces that they think you are full of it.

I was very disappointed after opening my Psychology book (titled Psychology: Themes and Variations, Briefer Version, Seventh Edition, by Wayne Weiten, and was published in 2008 mind you) and reading the entire sleep/dream section just to realize that they didn't say a thing about lucid dreaming. Not a thing. I thought that by 2008 there was enough information on lucid dreaming for it to be worthy of mentioning in the dream section of a Psychology book. Who the hell is charge of what does and doesn't go into the dreaming section of psychology books? Who do I have to write a letter to in order to convince them of mentioning lucid dreams in the next edition of this book?

I guess I'm going to have to be the one to spread the word to my psych class maybe in the form of a project or research paper.

I'm quite okay with it not being mainstream.

The main amount of people that LD are very intelligent, and looking to expand their minds.

The majority of Society, can't even be civil with people of different race and religion.

Originally Posted by KingOfTwilight

I'm quite okay with it not being mainstream.

The main amount of people that LD are very intelligent, and looking to expand their minds.

The majority of Society, can't even be civil with people of different race and religion.

That made me feel very good about wanting to LD.

I'd give it a month of popularity or less in America before the scare monger religious morons condemned it and the next thing you'd see on the TV is "Fawx News late night report, Lucid Dreaming, BEING USED TO TRAIN TERRORISTS?1!1oneshift!one!11"

I'd like to see it happen, but I also like the idea that lucid dreaming is something special that only those who actively seek it find it, kind of like a selective "cool kids club "