Thread: What type of LD-er are you? CLASSIFICATIONS

The natural


Some of these folks have LD-s every day, usually many times per night, some have them less frequently, the point is that no induction techniques are used and the lucids just "occur". Usually have these abilities from a very young age. They can't turn it off so some view it negatively, while others embrace it.


The accomplished dreamer

these, through great effort can maintain a good amount of LD-s, as much as several per week or even more, by using induction methods


low ability dreamer


these unfortunately, even with great effort cannot achieve many LD's. At best they can hope for several per year or month.
low ability dreamers can become accomplished dreamers and the other way round

beginner



You have just discovered lucid dreaming and your ways are not yet set


EDIT: updated definition for "natural"

Well put together man.

I gotta be the low-level one.

I think most people fluxuate between the "Accomplished Dreamer" and the "Low Ability Dreamer." Right now, I'm feeling accomplished, but last week I was convinced I was low ability. Ask me again in two days

Im a beginner.

It might be fun to add some more categories, and make it into an online quiz.

I am in the middle of low and accomplished

I am a bit out of practice but am still having at least 1 a week if not more. I need to get back up to my high of 6-8 a week.

God i imss when i was like that in july

im a low ability dreamer but i feel like im on the verge of being an accomplished dreamer

No offense, but I have to disagree with these descriptions/generalizations.

For example, based on your classifications, I don't fit into any of your categories. Though I AM a natural LDer, I certainly don't have LDs every night. Sometimes I even have dry spells lasting a few weeks or more.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

No offense, but I have to disagree with these descriptions/generalizations.

For example, based on your classifications, I don't fit into any of your categories. Though I AM a natural LDer, I certainly don't have LDs every night. Sometimes I even have dry spells lasting a few weeks or more.

Very good point, I never thought of that.

I was also thinking, someone who isn't a natural can still end up having more LDs per week than a natural.

But it still let's you get the gist of the "classes"

only a beginner, I hope i can be a natural

Just a beginner, hoping to eventually attain natural or at least accomplished status. Gonna be a while, though.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

No offense, but I have to disagree with these descriptions/generalizations.

For example, based on your classifications, I don't fit into any of your categories. Though I AM a natural LDer, I certainly don't have LDs every night. Sometimes I even have dry spells lasting a few weeks or more.

thanks for the advice- I updated the definition.


There seems to be a lot of controversy surrounding the accomplished/low ability dreamers and who is what. Indeed, both are extremes and the DV populus is usually in between, each member transient and not holding any truly defined status. I could have split the definitions up into more like accomplished/expert/medium/beginner/etc however that would still be imperfect since the skill depends on a function of LD's per week



rather than doing that I just chose the 2 extremes.
especially since no DV member, say has a static 2 LD's per week every week no more and no less.

make me a natural...

It also doesn't take into account the quality of the dreams. That, I think, plays an important role. I know a few naturals who wake up the millisecond they become lucid. I know people who can work very hard, get maybe 4 lucids a year, but they seem to last at least half an hour and they accomplish tons of dream goals.

I dunno, I disagree strongly with this post, especially the "HERE IS THE WAY IT IS" presentation. I'm not really all for these classifications, especially because there ARE no set definitions or categories, and I don't believe these should be them even if I wanted there to be.

low level, unfortunately...
I'm kind of jealous of all the naturals out there...

Can't see the problem with attempting to define a "natural" lucid dreamer.
The range of definitions I've seen used in DV is fairly broad.

I suspect the problem is that many LDers like to describe themselves as "natural" for the Kudos. So of course they're going to grumble when they find out that, actually, they're maybe not the messiah of Lucid dreaming.

I'd describe myself as accomplished.

I've given the inductions a miss for the last couple of months.
I've also only been recording only my most interesting dreams.
But I do maintain a good dream awareness and still spend a few minutes remembering them each morning when I wake up.
As a result, with little effort, I'm still managing at least 1 spontaneous lucid a week.

Some people might be inclined to label themselves a natural based on the above. Not me thought!

I heard about Lucid Dreaming 2 years ago, and I 've had at about 15 LDs so far, but considering the fact that i started writing my DJ just today i would say I am a NOOB, a beginner.

Low ability dreamer... I guess haha

Well, i think i was in all of these categories at a point of my life.

I was a natural LDer ocasionally while i was a child. Rare times, countable through the fingers of an hand, but i had some natural LDs.

I was a beginner when i discovered this website for the first time and found that they were inducible. Then i practised really hard and i became an accomplished LDer. I didn't pass throught he low level at that time.

Now i got a lot to do in university so i'm more into studying. So, i would say that at moment i am a Low level LDer as i'm not much focused anymore but, eventually, i'll try to regain my skills.

I think just 4 categories are too narrow to fit all of the possibilities that there are.

To all the people saying "I hope to accomplish natural"..You cant accomplish "natural" your either a natural at it, or you train yourself to do it & so your accomplished

Natural
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somewhere between beginner and low-level. I am only just getting used to the RCs and stuff, and i have LDs in bursts like 3 a week and then none for a LONG time. I remain confident that eventually i will become high level.

on a side note, i actually am glad that i am not a natural (no offence to anybody). I just feel that I would get more enjoyment from it than someone who has been doing it his/her whole life.

I'm the beginner

somewhere in between beginner and accomplished dreamer.

I can now say I am an accomplished dreamer. With some helpful guides and previous lucid experience, its no longer hard to attain lucidity. So far out of my 5 attempts 4 of them were successful this week.