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      Witchcraft?

      I heard people think lucid dreams are witchcraft lol?...Odd, it kinda seems like it but is it very? I thought witchcraft was like voodoo and worshiping the devil, and is it ok for a 13 year to be practicing the ''lucid dream''? Is it ok for my parents to know? People, are gonna think am werid, for trying to control my dreams... what do you guys think?

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      Lucid dreaming is scientifically proven; it has nothing at all to do with witchcraft. It's completely safe for anyone of any age (except people who can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality, but that's a completely different story). The only reason you wouldn't want to tell your parents is if you think they would be inclined to immediately jump to the conclusion that lucid dreaming is evil, satanic, witchcraft, etc. As for people thinking it's weird... In my experience, people have just sort of shrugged off the topic if I ever bring it up. It really depends on how you bring up the subject. Also, keep in mind that society doesn't really emphasize dreams and that any discussion of them is sort of unusual.

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      Lucid dreaming is not witchcraft. Although witches practice lucid dreaming, but so did many of the saints of the christianity and seekers of all religions and faiths.
      You don't need to let anyone know what you are doing, if you are worried about what people may think. Of course it is OK for a 13 yr old to be practicing lucid dreaming. It is more than OK, it is GGGREAT! Go for it! Educate yourself on the phenomena of sleep paralysis and false awakenings, which can be scary if you don't understand them and they happen to you. But with education and understanding, they are harmless.
      There is nothing evil or unsafe in lucid dreaming. It is just dreaming, and knowing that you are dreaming.

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      No, but dreams are the one and only place you can successfully practice witchcraftery... lul

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      Quote Originally Posted by Barefooted Student View Post
      No, but dreams are the one and only place you can successfully practice witchcraftery... lul
      This.

      Seriously though, if you don't feel comfortable telling people because they're narrow minded and you fear they'll judge you, don't do it. If you're comfortable with it, go ahead.

      I didn't tell my folks, mainly because they thought it must have been somehow dangerous when I introduced the concept to them one day. What they don't know won't hurt them .

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      Quote Originally Posted by ShutterHoe View Post
      People, are gonna think am werid, for trying to control my dreams...
      Maybe, but why wouldn't you want to control your dreams? It's entertainment at its most immersive, great fun. You don't have to tell anybody you're not comfortable telling. For example, if you get into a conversation about dreams in general, why not slip it in? If the person is okay talking about dreams in general then they'll no doubt be intrigued by lucid dreaming. Just don't be like,
      "All right, conservative parents, I've started this new age hobby which some people think is related to witchcraft!" That will not go down well.

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      For people who think Lucid Dreaming is involved with Witchcraft is a bunch of nut jobs. As in, they are crazy. My parents know about Lucid Dreaming and they don't think it involves Witchcraft. They just think I'm weird for talking about my dreams or how to control them. Lucid Dreaming means you can do anything you want and have a hell fun time with it. For example. If you have a dream about a movie theater. You can walk through the screen with out breaking it down. You could go through it like a magic portal that leads you some where else. You can also do allot of fun stuff with Lucid Dreaming. You can also make your self have Dragonball Z powers.

      You can fly and do all tons of stuff. If you are afraid of telling your parents about Lucid Dreaming and them misjudging you. Then don't Tell them. And if they think it involves Witchcraft and all that stuff. Then I don't know what to do from there. Your parents cant force you to stop Lucid Dreaming. Lucid Dreaming happens only in your mind. Your parents don't have control over your mind so they can't tell if your having a Lucid Dream or not. They can't stop you from having a dream. Dreaming is normal and everyone has them. They can try to send you to a therapist or psychologist but they'll probably tell your parents Lucid Dreaming is normal. I bet your parents and any other parents have had a Lucid Dream before but not knowing it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ShutterHoe View Post
      I heard people think lucid dreams are witchcraft lol?...Odd, it kinda seems like it but is it very? I thought witchcraft was like voodoo and worshiping the devil, and is it ok for a 13 year to be practicing the ''lucid dream''? Is it ok for my parents to know? People, are gonna think am werid, for trying to control my dreams... what do you guys think?
      Are you scared of being considered evil or something...? Trust me it isn't anything evil. The bible talks about messages through dreams all the time. So Lucid dreaming is anything but evil because it is just making you alot more aware of something already very important. And if your parents think it is evil tell them what i just said. And if they think your insane tell them to send you to a psycologist because they are just going to say that it is perfectly natural and a great way to find out important things that your subconscious is telling you.

      EDIT: Oh ya and starting lucid dreaming at a young age isn't bad it is actually good because you will have more time to master it and you will be more aware of your surroundings unlinke every one else who is young. It did for me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by bradysdreaming View Post
      Are you scared of being considered evil or something...? Trust me it isn't anything evil. The bible talks about messages through dreams all the time. So Lucid dreaming is anything but evil because it is just making you alot more aware of something already very important. And if your parents think it is evil tell them what i just said. And if they think your insane tell them to send you to a psycologist because they are just going to say that it is perfectly natural and a great way to find out important things that your subconscious is telling you.

      EDIT: Oh ya and starting lucid dreaming at a young age isn't bad it is actually good because you will have more time to master it and you will be more aware of your surroundings unlinke every one else who is young. It did for me.
      Agreed. Without getting too into detail, there was a pivotal situation in the Old Testament of the Bible that in my opinion involved lucid dreaming. People call it witchcraft because they do not understand it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by bradysdreaming View Post
      EDIT: Oh ya and starting lucid dreaming at a young age isn't bad it is actually good because you will have more time to master it and you will be more aware of your surroundings unlinke every one else who is young. It did for me.
      Well i started a few months ago when i was 16 and i thought i was early

      Anyway as everyone else said above... It isn't evil in anyway, its just a normal every-night dream except you can control it... Nothing bad about that
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      Quote Originally Posted by Dylan Tinning View Post
      Well i started a few months ago when i was 16 and i thought i was early
      Stephen LaBerge started when he was six if i remember correctly .

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      Quote Originally Posted by Emkinator View Post
      Stephen LaBerge started when he was six if i remember correctly .
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      Lucid dreaming is just dreaming, which is necessary and inevitable, while having the knowledge that you are dreaming. People who are oppose lucid dreaming are really saying that you are not supposed to have knowledge of what you are doing when you dream. They are saying, "You are wrong for not being ignorant about your own actions." How ridiculous is that? I guess they think that if you dream and realize you are dreaming you are supposed to tell yourself, "Okay, I need to stop knowing what I am doing. Be ignorant!"

      Lucid dreaming is not witchcraft. It is self understanding.
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      First off, witchcraft is NOT devil worship. It is being in sync with nature, and practicing with the energies of the earth. NOT DEVIL WORSHIPPING. Lucid dreaming is not witchcraft either, they may have some connections such as the astral plane, but there is nothing dealing with the craft. Please, explore these topics before making assumptions.
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      Hm, I always wondered why people put LD together with that, its quite simple to ask oneself the question "Is being aware of my own actions witchcraft?" the same applies to dreaming, I would say.

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      I've recently been working on a research paper concerning Lucid Dreaming. Most holy/scriptural texts make reference to lucid dreams. In fact, the Bible is so stock full of it that it's crazy...

      Read the Book of Revelation- it's a whole book of 22 chapters describing/interpreting a dream, which I believe was lucid. Joseph (the technicolor dreamcoat one) is a story about dreams, dream interpretation, etc.

      Furthermore, it's something that most, if not all people, experience. In the simplest of terms it is recognizing that you are dreaming during the event. I'm sure if you ask anyone, they would say "oh yeah, that's happened to me." I seriously doubt in that same breath they'll accuse themselves of witchcraft. It is perfectly logical, natural, and scientifically, historically, religiously and spiritually varified/sanctioned.

      I've recently discovered that if I present the fact that it has the potential to be used thereputically that people receive it much better. I now have my university English class interested in lucid dreams, simply because I presented the possibility of theraputic lucid dreaming. It's like hypnosis: once people come to understand it, and when they see it as a means to help people, they begin to accept it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Hidden View Post
      Lucid dreaming is scientifically proven; it has nothing at all to do with witchcraft. It's completely safe for anyone of any age (except people who can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality, but that's a completely different story). The only reason you wouldn't want to tell your parents is if you think they would be inclined to immediately jump to the conclusion that lucid dreaming is evil, satanic, witchcraft, etc. As for people thinking it's weird... In my experience, people have just sort of shrugged off the topic if I ever bring it up. It really depends on how you bring up the subject. Also, keep in mind that society doesn't really emphasize dreams and that any discussion of them is sort of unusual.
      Agreed, when ever I bring up the subject nobody is really interested, unless they are people who practice LDing too.
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      Some REALLY ignorant people must think it's witchcraft, I guess.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Walms View Post
      Hm, I always wondered why people put LD together with that, its quite simple to ask oneself the question "Is being aware of my own actions witchcraft?" the same applies to dreaming, I would say.
      Probably because it's not normal to them, or they're narrow minded, or they link anything that they don't know/can't do with evil (aka ego issue), ect. The list seems to go on.

      As most people have said, there's nothing "evil" about lucid dreaming. It is the most amazing experience. And I started out as young as you, and it helps me be aware and understand myself a lot more.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Kordan View Post
      I've recently been working on a research paper concerning Lucid Dreaming. Most holy/scriptural texts make reference to lucid dreams. In fact, the Bible is so stock full of it that it's crazy...

      Read the Book of Revelation- it's a whole book of 22 chapters describing/interpreting a dream, which I believe was lucid. Joseph (the technicolor dreamcoat one) is a story about dreams, dream interpretation, etc.

      Furthermore, it's something that most, if not all people, experience. In the simplest of terms it is recognizing that you are dreaming during the event. I'm sure if you ask anyone, they would say "oh yeah, that's happened to me." I seriously doubt in that same breath they'll accuse themselves of witchcraft. It is perfectly logical, natural, and scientifically, historically, religiously and spiritually varified/sanctioned.

      I've recently discovered that if I present the fact that it has the potential to be used thereputically that people receive it much better. I now have my university English class interested in lucid dreams, simply because I presented the possibility of theraputic lucid dreaming. It's like hypnosis: once people come to understand it, and when they see it as a means to help people, they begin to accept it.
      Could I see what you have so far of your paper? Sound really interesting.
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      Considering that many, if not most people will have at least one spontaneous lucid dream in their lifetime, it is completely natural; in that sense, learning to induce lucid dream is no different than learning to whistle a tune from making the sound by accident.
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      Quote Originally Posted by YYNYM View Post
      Could I see what you have so far of your paper? Sound really interesting.
      I'm almost done with the paper. In fact, I just have to have the final edit completed, and then I'll be set for turning it in. For this paper, I had gatherd scads of information. Unfortunately, not all of it made it into the final product...or even the drafts.

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      Not at all

      People might just think it is witchcraft because they either think it is "Against God" or "Evil"

      It actually isnt at all. Everyone dreams, so why not know you are dreaming so you can make more out of it.

      Lucid dreaming has been scientifically proven many times. If you let anyone know about it and they dont believe you, point them towards scientific studies, and maybe this forum

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      Not sure if this was clarified in earlier posts, but "lucid dreaming" is also just the term we use that describes being aware that you are dreaming. I believe the word "lucid" means clarity, or awareness... something like that. And lucid dreaming can happen naturally, and there is a higher chance of it happening for someone who can remember their dreams well. I am christian and I naturally just happen to realize I'm dreaming once in a while, so there's nothing spiritually wrong against lucid dreaming. And its also scientifically proven

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