Thread: How can you have LD longer than 1 hour?

Sorry, the title of this thread was meant to say "longer than 1.5 hours".

Ok, so I've just joined and I was searching the forums for "longest lucid dreams" and found a few threads.
What confused me is that some members were responding that they have had LDs that lasted several hours.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't dreams occuring during the REM cycle? ...and since we sleep in 1.5 hour intervals with the REM stage getting progressively longer through the night, the longest possible REM stage would have to be less than 1.5 hours, right?

How is it possible for someone to be having lucid dreams for longer then 1.5 hours, when our minds aren't even capable of sustaining continuous REM sleep for any longer than this?

Is it a perceived time? Did it feel like longer than 1.5 hours, but in reality, it wasn't really that long?

Relativity, google it(Einstein- theory of relativity). Dreams actually last from 5 to 45 minutes, but they can feel like hours, also you can keep chaining lucid dreams with the DEILD technique look on the tutorials

Ok, that makes sense. Yeah, I was thinking that it was a perception thing. I was actually editing my initial post to ask that while you were replying. I'll check out the tutorials. Thanks.

Yeah. Perception and memory

If you do a technique like the spinning technique to prolong a lucid dream, you can drift straight from one dream into the next.

You could try REM-Rebound, don't recommend it though, need to stay awake for a long period of time, ie, loss of sleep.

Well first of all, you don't only dream during REM. So I think anyone with some experience can remain lucid and dreaming through various stages of sleep, not only REM.

I've had lucids that lasted hours...not "felt" like they did.

There is a tutorial on this, this may help.
Stabilize the dream first, then make sure you take a minute to aquaint yourself with your dream senses, and forget your real senses.
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=95034

Until scientific research is carried out we have no way of knowing for sure whether lucid dreams really do last for "hours" or whether our perception of time can be altered. Certainly in some nonlucids I will get the feeling I've been doing something or have been somewhere for a long time or I'll even have a false memory of something. When dreaming, our consciousness is subject to all sorts of strange perceptions - last night I had a lucid dream but I wasn't even myself, I was a GUY ffs. You're probably thinking so how was I lucid? It's impossible to explain, but I was. A friend of mine has claimed to have had a two hour lucid dream and I even mentioned this in a thread a while back - however now I'm not convinced it's possible to be lucid for hours. But I'm sure people who claim to have been genuinely believe they were.

I'd really like to see some experiments done on people maintaining lucidity during periods of non-REM. This is really the only explanation I can come up with for having had LDs that last a few hours. Unless it's possible to somehow consciously prolong/alter your REM period while you are lucid...but that seems much less likely. Since people can dream in non-REM, I see no reason why a dream can not carry over between the stages? But like I said, I'd like to see research on this...I scoured the internet for awhile but couldn't find anything.

Apparently the relativity thing is the same when taking DMT, although when smoked the trip lasts for only 30 minutes or so, people have been in the trip world for what felt like days.

dreaming doesn't only occur in the REM stage,i even dream at the very moment i fall asleep and before i wake up from a night of sleep,scientists don't know much about the human mind and even less about dreaming,they are only beginning to understand all of it.
REM stage has the most brain-activity and the rapid eye movement,they are also often the most intense dreams
In one lucid dream experience i had attained lucidity right after a heavy REM phase where everything was black and empty,there was no dreaming,only my thoughts were there,where i suddenly realized i was asleep and woke up,that was my first lucid dream,because i woke up immediately i could remember a fragment of the heavy REM dream and wrote it down,lost the paper though,all i remember was lot's of flashy colors,brilliant patterns and strange sounds and echoes
I noticed there are many dream phases(REM phases?) each with it's climax(or maybe only one with a climax) and likely followed by calm blackness or a pause(only encountered one,or was it a strange empty dream?)i estimate there are five such phases,maybe more,maybe less
the dreams that occur immediately after falling asleep are different then all the other dreams and are calm and your mind is very passive,like watching a movie or something,at the very moment you fall asleep your mind starts to drift after a certain thinking-pattern that started while being awake(strangely replaced by thoughts that are seemingly automatic,perhaps likely the subconscious mind takes full control)
So anyway i think 1.5 hours seems realistically to be the longest possible lucid dream,time perception of course is greatly altered

Well I just want to say thanks for providing link for tutorial. I was searching and couldn't found out what exactly I was looking for. I never show a dream which is such a longer. I tried to watch for longer but then I suddenly wake up in between.