Question about WBTB

**Lorgarn** · 02-15-2011 02:35 PM

This is what I tried tonight:
I woke up from a dream, which I could remember quite clear. I did not move, tried to recall all details (as I always do) to write it down. When I got upright and took my dream journal, all of a sudden I cold not remember anything. I have never before encountered such a hard and sudden memory loss.

So I drank a bit of water, stayed awake for about 3 or 5 minutes, then tried WBTB. I thought about a certain scene, imagined to dream about it. I did not attain lucidity, but the dream I had was very, very close to the scene I had layed out before in my mind.

Is this close? Should I focus on this? Perhaps imaging to to a reality check? I am a bit astonished since I have never actually dreamed something, I thought about right before.

Regards
Lorgarn

**Nilabimini** · 03-16-2011 03:14 AM

When I had my 1.5 LDs recently, they were both at different times, after different amounts of sleep, but both WBTB. You could try both ways, if it seems you are having success with forcing an image, then keep trying that to create a dream scene for yourself. And if that doesn't seem to be helping you get lucid, perhaps just try to let your mind be free after you've woken up, gotten water and go back to bed, don't force anything, but allow your mind to wander, feel heavy, watch the black screen behind your eyes.

With my 2 WBTBs, at first they both started as false awakenings, and since I had been practicing reality checks like crazy in waking life, I think that is why I remembered to do them in the dream which helped with getting lucid.

Good luck Lorgarn!

~Steph

**mazillion** · 03-16-2011 08:48 AM

WBTBs are really really effective when you stay for about an hour. Stephen LaBerge did studies and found that (don't quote me on this) staying up for an hour increases you chances of a ld by like 50%. i don't remember exactly the number but it is really good. nevertheless, 5 minutes beats not at all if you don't want to stay up.

**FlyingDutchman** · 04-23-2011 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Lorgarn

This is what I tried tonight:
I woke up from a dream, which I could remember quite clear. I did not move, tried to recall all details (as I always do) to write it down. When I got upright and took my dream journal, all of a sudden I cold not remember anything. I have never before encountered such a hard and sudden memory loss.

So I drank a bit of water, stayed awake for about 3 or 5 minutes, then tried WBTB. I thought about a certain scene, imagined to dream about it. I did not attain lucidity, but the dream I had was very, very close to the scene I had layed out before in my mind.

Is this close? Should I focus on this? Perhaps imaging to to a reality check? I am a bit astonished since I have never actually dreamed something, I thought about right before.

Regards
Lorgarn

In my WBTB's i recall a COMPLETE NOTHINGNESS. So consider yourself llucy and focus on that

**Marm** · 04-30-2011 10:07 PM

Or you can just combine WILD and WBTB if you don't wanna stay up for 1hr.

**Matte87** · 05-01-2011 10:59 AM

It sounds like you induced your dream after the WBTB. Also a WBTB doesn't have to be an hour long, it's very hard to fall back asleep then unless you're extremely tired. 20-30 minutes is what I go for. Also the chances of getting lucid increases like 20 times from what I've read. From what I've experienced it increases atleast 5 times.

Combine it with MILD and you're ready to go