Thread: Yuppie's DEILD guide - The easiest way to lucid dream.

Dude, that's awesome! You've done really well, congratulatiions
Considering my first lucids were 5-10 seconds, mainly blackness straight after I become lucid, your dream is pretty mad, right?
I'm cheering you on to complete your lucid goals!

Thanks man.

Yeah I've realized I was dreaming plenty of times in the past but never knew about lucid dreaming so I either just chilled or woke myself up depending on if the dream was good or bad (could only stay "lucid" for about 10 seconds though).

My second proper lucid dream went for about 10-15 minutes and I managed to turn myself into a human rocket which was pretty cool. Couldn't really fly very well but it was still fun.

I also sometimes see mini movie-like dreams while falling asleep, but I'll keep switching from in a mini dream to being awake and conscious again for about 5 seconds to dreaming again etc.. So it's hard to try to enter one of them as a dream. I remember I had a very vivid one while napping on a couch and was fully aware it was one of the mini dreams but didn't really try to enter it. But maybe with some practice that could be a good way to have a lucid. Kinda like WILD/DEILD Hypnagogic Imagery but without SP.

Nice, sounds like you're a natural...
Switch bodies with me! ;D

Hey Yuppie, I've been trying your technique for some days and didnt have success.

Can you tell me how much time you usually take to "go back to the dream" ?
I think I give up too early :p

For me it took about 10-15 seconds to enter the extremely dangerous, dreadful, life-threatening (/sarcasm) SP. Unless you mean after that.

I wake up a lot of times naturally after some of my dreams and almost always try to perform a DEILD, but I never achieved the SP :/

Just now found this thread, after deciding to try a new technique. Thanks for the guide, Yuppie. I'm going to try this technique later and see how it goes, considering I've only been doing DILDs up to this point.

Rubens - Sleep Parlaysis isn't necessary for DEILD. Infact, I'd say it would be more common not to experience it, then it would be to whilst attempting to DEILD. Mainly because the transition is so fast!
Generally take about 10-30 seconds
Also, you can't expect me to help you without details.

Dragonworkz - Sounds good mate, thanks
Please do drop back and tell me how it goes!

Great post man! I've used this method before and it absolutely works! A few days practice does set the mood and intention and after that it's smooth sailing. This is a perfect straight to the point tutorial.

Thanks so much!

Had another Lucid Dream tonight, hooray! 'Tis in my DJ if you're interested. Only a week since my last dream too. It's also much better than the last one. I haven't been reading up on lucidity much recently, nor have I been sticking to my techniques. Failed to DEILD though Maybe next time.

I've been trying this the last few nights and I definitely realise I'm awake at least once a night. I keep moving and looking at my clock though. Should I try that "when I see this 'my eyes closed' I stay still" mantra?

Quick question: Does DEILDing have effects like WILDing? Like hallucinations, lights, vibrations, etc.?

also, I'm getting the feeling I may have asked this a few weeks ago, but I'm not sure, so sorry if I already asked this.

Originally Posted by Triforce

Tonight I overslept and was laying in bed, wanting to get up but way too drowsy (I tried checking the time on my phone by trying to press the power button on my phone without even having it in my hand. Twice...).

I've had some pretty similar stuff happened. Every once in a while I'd get up and start walking down stairs, only to realize I was visualizing the whole thing (not dreaming, though).

Gahhhhh, I'm sooo rusty it's not even funny!! I'm so happy DEILDs can be performed on the spot, I must get my recall back up to par!

Hey. I wanna get your opinion on something. I got SP again, but I'm not sure if it was in a dream or real life...

So I guess I woke up from a dream (not sure if FA or not). I was laying there when all of a sudden SP grabbed me. I was like "Hmmphh!" as it happened then I relaxed. I tried to snap myself out of it but then I stopped and figured I'd at least give it a chance. For a few moments I had the usual weird ringing noise or whatever but it slowed down and was pretty quiet actually. I listened for any scary sounds but there were none. I also remembered that despite my pitch-black view that it was daytime and if any scary things did appear it wouldn't be all that bad because the room would have been well-lit. Then my vision turned from black to a bit brighter and I felt myself slowly starting to spin left. I just relaxed and pretended I was spinning on something to help induce a dream. It was pretty fun actually. Then all of a sudden it stopped. I moved a little, opened my eyes, done a RC and I was awake.

It felt pretty real, but it's kinda odd how it just stopped out of nowhere, but I guess that's entirely possible. I also kinda forget what happened just before. But yeah, what do you think? I'm 50/50, maybe leaning more towards real though. Or at least I hope it was, because nothing scary happened at all and it was kinda fun when I just relaxed and let myself seemingly start moving around.

Hey guys, what up? Sorry about the late replies, I've been dealing with school work (1000 word assignments, OMG and work.
Anywhore, let's get to it.
Triforce - Nice job bro, I'll get to it eventually
Enak - Great progress man! Yeah, that souunds like a good idea Sounds like a matter of time before you get it!
Benzoe - Yes and no. I mean the transition between waking and sleep is normally so fast, it's unlikely to experience any of this. however it is not unheard o, and a fair few people have experienced this. I myself, have had HH's once or twice, although generally I do not experience them.
Azul - Kay man Tell me how it goes
landofmanytres- good for you.
triforce (again) - Hahahhaa, that's some weird shit man! By the way, don't fight sleep paralysis, go with it. It will help!
It's a cool experience, right? Like I tell most people
I couldn't really say, I think the only person who could answer that would be you, you know what I mean? Please do continue to report on what happens with that!

Sorry once again guys, hope you's understand. Sorry for the slack replies and bad wording. Anyway, back to my english assignment D:

Had another SP experience the night after but still not sure if real or dream. There were signs of it being a dream but a lot of signs of it being real too. I don't know. It wasn't scary at all though.

But what I did manage to finally do last night is... DEILD! That's right, I did it. Unfortunately I screwed myself over afterwards. Let me explain...


In a dream I was at the Spirit Temple from Zelda (I have plenty of Zelda dreams). Then I found myself and a few brothers of mine looking for Chuck Norris' house which was supposed to be a cave underneath sand. After a while we found him living in housing commission in the middle of the desert. So we entered the house and talked for a bit. I was making myself a Subway sandwich when I spot this girl from real life. At this point I know I'm dreaming but am more worried about this girl. I'm feeling a little depressed because I think she doesn't really want to talk to me, but I eventually call her over. I'm just hoping my sub-conscious lets her come over and not run away. Fortunately she comes over and starts chatting.

She gives me a big bottle of milk to go with my sandwich and starts telling me about her day at work. She tells me she only got 40 cents for a whole day's work, and a cent. I continue the convo by telling her we don't have 40 or 1 cent coins in Australia (she was somehow American in my dream rather than Australian). By this time though my vision was black and I was 80% awake. I was fully aware of this but continued to talk because I just didn't want to wake up. I must have DEILDed then because I suddenly found myself back in the dream but she was gone. I still had the milk she gave me but I felt sad. Then the dream skipped and I was unlucid in my home, sipping on the bottle of milk I had. I was waiting for a Razer Naga mouse to be delivered to my house (am in real life too) and checked the time to get an idea of how long the postie would be. Except the time said 5 AM. I remembered waking up for real at about 8 AM and falling back asleep so I knew something was up, especially when I saw 3 of those thin second-hands going backwards...

At this point I flew into a frenzy, jumping and throwing myself around like an absolute maniac while screaming "I'M LUCID DREAMING!!!1!!1!" and stuff like that. Seriously, it was ridiculous. But for some reason I felt scared, like the dream was going to turn into a nightmare, so guess what? I tried to wake myself up. Then I had a False Awakening but picked up on it almost immediately, but my troll brain said something like "This is how nightmares often begin", referring to the fact that I was still dreaming when I tried to wake myself up. So despite nothing scary happening I woke myself up for real. So after finally DEILDing, I get scared of absolutely nothing and wake myself up? Am I kidding me? Can anyone really be that stupid? Apparently I can.

Oh well... at least I've done it, now it should be even easier next time. And another Lucid Dream is never a bad thing. More Lucids mean a higher chance of becoming Lucid next time too. I've been getting lucky with spontaneous Lucids lately, and I haven't even been trying any techniques at all. Just gotta keep calm next time I guess. None of my LD or SPs have been scary so I don't know why I freaked out so much. I've always been very calm in my other dreams to the point where I'd gladly kick any scary thing's ass with no worries.

Woooooooooooooooh! Yeah dude!
Tell everyone how easy it is, right?!
I'm so happy for you!!!!

Yeah it's really quite easy, especially if you're having a good dream that you really want to go bank into. It's the perfect technique really. I'd imagine it'd be super easy to chain dreams using it too.

Had another case of unknown SP last night. I'm pretty sure it was real. I woke up through the night, sat up, looked around then went back to sleep. Then I woke up and did the same again, only this time it was morning which is about right. Then I laid back down and I felt kind of... dreamy? Kind of like I was in the state of mind to just go right back to sleep. While I was laying there I decided to try hanging onto consciousness to enter SP and it worked very quickly. Had the sensation of spinning left again, then stopped and felt really heavy which I tried to imagine myself falling through a portal of some sort to a dream world to enter a LD. Anyway, I tried to imagine a few landscapes that didn't work properly then I tried to picture myself in my house like I was in my previous dream, although I only got a clear black and white image of the floor at the side of my bed which is where it felt like I ended up after spinning 'round. I could hear my curtains flapping about like the were in real life which might hint to it being real, maybe. Anyway I went straight into a False Awakening after that. I slid off my bed like a walrus (lol) and done a failed RC and thought I just failed at entering a LD, then I woke up for real.

Excuse that wall of text. Anyway I guess the question here is... Is it possible to quickly fall into SP even after moving around and opening your eyes if you tried hard enough?

"I slid off my bed like a walrus"
Hahahahahahah!
Yeah, I don't see why not. I mean, sleep paralysis isn't really primarily being about your being tired.
Yes, it's quite possible, however, go with the sleep paralysis, they're welcomed in most guides, they're generally the onset of a lucid dream. DEILD is no exception.

I got my first chance to try DEILD'n last night. I woke up and surprisingly had no problems keeping my eyes closed. It wasn't that i regained consciousness that made me realize i had, but the breakdown of a dream i was currently in. It was a non-lucid dream, yet i felt myself waking up and understood the implications. This led me to try and fall back in without moving anything, even my eyelids! However, this is where the dilemma struck. I fell back unconscious before even a single minute had passed. I was well aware that i was awake, yet i fell back in too quick. I've only had a single successful WILD, but i prefer to remain awake for longer when i attempt it - to reaffirm my awareness and keep my thoughts tight. I believe this can work, but it seems like i'd have to fight for my awareness much harder than i expected to. Any tips on keeping your thoughts in check in such a dramatic moment?

thanks in advanced, listener.

Originally Posted by lucidlistener

I got my first chance to try DEILD'n last night. I woke up and surprisingly had no problems keeping my eyes closed. It wasn't that i regained consciousness that made me realize i had, but the breakdown of a dream i was currently in. It was a non-lucid dream, yet i felt myself waking up and understood the implications. This led me to try and fall back in without moving anything, even my eyelids! However, this is where the dilemma struck. I fell back unconscious before even a single minute had passed. I was well aware that i was awake, yet i fell back in too quick. I've only had a single successful WILD, but i prefer to remain awake for longer when i attempt it - to reaffirm my awareness and keep my thoughts tight. I believe this can work, but it seems like i'd have to fight for my awareness much harder than i expected to. Any tips on keeping your thoughts in check in such a dramatic moment?

thanks in advanced, listener.

Hey man, I'm glad you're trying out DEILD.
Yeah, that's the aspect of DEILD I struggled most with. I think the most important thing is preparing before hand. Have a little mental talk with yourself, about trusting your ability to remain aware. It'll work wonders for you. I also recommend you give a mantra a go. Try; "I will stay calm, when excited" or just "I will stay calm, when needed"

Originally Posted by yuppie11975

Hey man, I'm glad you're trying out DEILD.
Yeah, that's the aspect of DEILD I struggled most with. I think the most important thing is preparing before hand. Have a little mental talk with yourself, about trusting your ability to remain aware. It'll work wonders for you. I also recommend you give a mantra a go. Try; "I will stay calm, when excited" or just "I will stay calm, when needed"

Yes, i've had practice with mantras and what not, but i guess this time it was either too quick for me to consider before i passed out or it just didn't occur to me to try. Thanks for the advice though, i'll be sure to remember next time i get the chance.

Also, @Triforce: I've been though the same super-fast SP shortly after waking up myself. A good thing to consider next time you get the chance is to remain calm in thought. When you feel you're in deep enough, try and picture whatever environment is easiest for you. (Like Yuppie mentioned)
On that note you should also consider mapping out your own landscape ahead of time - i picture i'm on a beach at night. It's something i've created and learned how to recreate in my mind whenever i want a nice calm starting point for any potential dream or daydream.

Master Yuppie, I come seeking but a fraction of your great and infinite wisdom...

I entered SP again, but this time it was definitely real. It also felt like the others so they may have been real too. Unfortunately no Lucid Dream, but I just need some practice. Again I didn't stay still after waking up, I moved a little naturally. Then I even moved a bit on more purpose to see if I could still DEILD (or Ultra-fast WILD). And in no longer than 10 seconds I was in SP. Damn I'm good

But anyway, yeah, that happened. I was a little worried about going into it, but I took the plunge and just did it. It's really not that bad once you're in. I just thought "If I can enter a dream successfully I can tell Yuppie I did it!" It felt kinda funny cause it felt like I was trying to curl up like a cat, but I just went with it and tried to somehow amplify that feeling to induce a dream. I couldn't decide if I should try to reenter my previous dream or make a new one. My previous dream wasn't BAD but it seemed like the kind of dream I'd get stuck in the whole time doing boring stuff if I failed to change the scene. I decided to let my mind make up a scene and just go from there. My mind ended up choosing the scene "Hell" so I got really scared and woke myself up and I'm never going to try luciding again. Nah just kidding, I just woke up after that. No dream

I guess with time and practice I will get better. But do you have any advice in the meantime? (like what to imagine etc.) Seems like DEILDs can sometimes work for me even after moving quite a bit, and that's definitely a blessing I want to take full advantage of.

Also something interesting: I tried but failed to hold my breath while in SP (I tried as an experiment to see if it would wake me up). I just couldn't fully block my breathing. I could slow down but the urge to start breathing again was extra strong. Must be some sort of mechanism to make sure you don't forget to breath while sleeping I guess.