Thread: Yuppie's DEILD guide - The easiest way to lucid dream.

Nice tutorial!
I have been trying DEILD for about 2 weeks and I have had one success so far. I wake up on short Marimba alarm on my iPod (played in loudspeakers, not headphones). I try to hit my REM randomly (after about 5 to 5.5 hours of sleep usually), because I don't know my sleep cycle exactly and it's different every night depending on how fast I fall asleep.
About the possibility of DEILD after waking up naturally... People usually wake up at the end of REM. If I wake up at the end of REM and try to DEILD, I fail. I would have to wake up in the middle of REM naturally to find success. Am I wrong?

Originally Posted by ShadowOfSelf

Yes, although you would have to time it right to hit REM, natural awakenings are a lot more, natural.

Like, in the end of REM or in the middle etc.?

Madvorak: have you tried sleepyti.me ?

WDr: I have an iPod, not iPhone. Is there any program for PC I should try?

madvorak: google it, it's an online calculator to help you hit REM

I tried using a mantra to keep still when I wake up, but it didn't work the first night. However, that's expected, as it usually takes a few nights for my mantras to set in. Last night, however, I barely got any sleep at all (yet somehow managed to get a DILD) so I didn't bother with my mantra. I'll continue tonight though.

Yeah, I'm not to sure about that to be honest.. but I know it works? Aha..

Not bad for your age. But I am going to give you a bit of advice, and don't take it bad. When people are beginning lucid dreaming and they have about let's say 10 lucid dreams they think they have a technique mastered, or at least are very good at it. But the truth is that you are still new, and very inexperienced. My best advice is that you should learn how to lucid dream before you teach others.

My second bit of advice is that if you don't have anything new to add to the technique, or at least a different look at said technique then what is the point of posting a tutorial? This is a very basic DEILD guide. Instead of taking your time to write a tutorial, take that time to perfect it.

Please don't take this bad. It was well written and a very sturdy method. I'm just giving you something to take into consideration before you make another tutorial.

Cheers!

Thanks for making this guide for everyone Yuppie! I am sure it will help a few people.

Oneiron - I'm aware that it's a very simple guide, but I mainly wrote one because there aren't actually many DEILD guides on this website.. Find me five DEILD guides, or some other evidence to support your statement and then I'll agree with you. Also, even if I have nothing to add what's the worst it could do? I either help out a few people.. or there's nothing of use here and nothing great happens. Big deal.
Also, telling me I'm still a unexperienced is a very stupid thing to say. I could have had a million lucid dreams for all you know, and started at age five. I've actually been practicing DEILD for about 6 months now, so while I haven't "mastered" the method, which I think we'll both agree on, I'm not completely new and ignorant to it either. And finally, "Perfecting" making guides, like anything, comes with practice. That's what I'm doing.
Thanks so much for your comment, and your advice!

Mancon - Thanks ;3
I kind of feel like it sucks now, even though it never was anything special.
I wouldn't have been able to use/write/practice this if it wasn't for your, puffin's, and other's help in the first place! So thanks

No DEILD tonight, I was just too tired.. and didn't remember to DEILD when I woke up (I did wake up in the middle of the night).

Originally Posted by yuppie11975

Mancon - Thanks ;3
I kind of feel like it sucks now, even though it never was anything special.
I wouldn't have been able to use/write/practice this if it wasn't for your, puffin's, and other's help in the first place! So thanks

Don't say that! It has good info and it WILL help people out. So it doesn't suck. And everything is special so.... Also thank you

Edit: Also Oneiron, the point? To spread the word about DEILD, help people out, add more tutorials to the site.

Mancon, your avatar and signature kinda freak me out, I should *not* have watched "The Fourth Kind" yesterday XD

I think it's a good tutorial, *because* it's so basic. From a newbie for newbies
Also: Was it Deepak Chopra who said "Teach others what you have to learn yourself"?

Thanks miss lucy! <3

No problem, always willing to throw in a positive note ^^

You deserve the compliments yuppie. Your guide is well written and presents a very good method. Thanks again

Originally Posted by yuppie11975

I mainly wrote one because there aren't actually many DEILD guides on this website.. Find me five DEILD guides

There are plenty of deild guides, over 5 infact, nevertheless, more the merrier, deild has a good success rate so hopefully more give it a try.

The best LD I had were induced by DEILD so it has a great potential IMHO. I think that if I am going through such an extremely long dry spell period it may be because I have messed up sleeping cycle so I'll try to match with the informations given by sleepyti.me

Originally Posted by ShadowOfSelf

There are plenty of deild guides, over 5 infact, nevertheless, more the merrier, deild has a good success rate so hopefully more give it a try.

When I was trying to learn DEILD, I found myself struggling to find a decent guide, and another problem was that no one seemed to be sure how to do it, or answer my questions. I know this is a very basic and undetailed guide, but it does offer a guide on how to DEILD. And I'm happy to help anyone with questions, as much as I can.

However I'm trying not to get to defensive, but it's a natural thing, so sorry? aha..
Hopefully you're correct on the last bit.

Please do not think that this sucks. I just re read what I said before and it did sound a little crappy. I do not wish to make you upset about this. Like I said in my original post, this was well written and a sturdy technique. I guess I should learn how to express myself online.

What I said before was just what I would think about in your position before writing a guide.

Thanks oneiron! I am a little defensive

How is everyone going with their efforts?

I've had this happen before, but I didn't know what it was called. Except, what happened to me was I felt my whole body vibrating and as if the bed was shaking. Though I wasn't really thinking about anything in particular, so perhaps if I focus on the dream I just had it might work better.

Thanks for the guide! I'll keep at it.

I've been working on DEILD for a little while, and this seems like a great guide. I'll definitely do this. I think you shouldnt just think about the dream, actually feel,taste,etc. it all. Experience, but don't conciously think too much. I'm speaking of the freefloating type of mind which you hear about a lot on WILD threads. But I'll do this and give feedback. Thx for the great thread