Thread: Dutchraptor's Deild Guide - Become an Ld god.

I heard somebody somewhere say that you don't actually experience it in that length of time, you experience it in time lapses. Like trying to recall past years of your life. Some memories won't be re-callable and all you'll get are certain parts of the years.

Isn't this thread a DEILD tutorial? Did I miss something? Did someone stream Inception while we weren't looking?

Seriously. Show Dutchraptor a little respect and at least nod occasionally to the theme of the thread ... Better yet, leave the sheer nonsense and accompanying philosophical fantasy of claims of 500 year dreams to other threads, where they belong.

Originally Posted by Sageous

Isn't this thread a DEILD tutorial? Did I miss something? Did someone stream Inception while we weren't looking?

Seriously. Show Dutchraptor a little respect and at least nod occasionally to the theme of the thread ... Better yet, leave the sheer nonsense and accompanying philosophical fantasy of claims of 500 year dreams to other threads, where they belong.

Oh wow, that's a little harsh. Even though I'm new and I don't know how this site properly works, I really enjoyed reading the above "sheer nonsense"... I learnt something new which is why I read forums like these, just like how I learnt so much from Dutchraptor's guide.. Thanks again Dutchraptor And if Dutchraptor doesn't like how the thread is going, I'm sure he'd say it and everyone would be genuinely sorry and stop it.

Harsh it was not, Kaffy, by even the gentlest of measures. Rude maybe, but not harsh. Perhaps You're correct and it wasn't my place to sound out, but I did. Sorry if I annoyed you...

Yay! One more DEILD, a LONG one (longest in my short history of LD's). I tried to re-enter the dream with DEILD (failed) and ended up forgetting some of my lucid

I failed again.
Fail.
Fail.
Fail.
Fail.
Did I mention I failed?.
Yeahhhhhh. .____.

I understand where Sageous is coming from. This Is a DEILD thread. But, that's also how Sageous is, it's not the first time I've seen him get upset over something and backfire on someone. (No offense to you good sir, we're all only human.)
And it's not just this thread that's like that, many threads get off topic, and become something that should be in the senseless banter forum. Much respect to Dutchraptor for this Amazing guide, I'm sure he put Lots of effort into it to help Many people, it's helped me a couple of times! So thank you, Dutchraptor.

Originally Posted by Sageous

Isn't this thread a DEILD tutorial? Did I miss something? Did someone stream Inception while we weren't looking?

Seriously. Show Dutchraptor a little respect and at least nod occasionally to the theme of the thread ... Better yet, leave the sheer nonsense and accompanying philosophical fantasy of claims of 500 year dreams to other threads, where they belong.

Hi sageous,
I understand that time dilation etc might not be the most suitable topic in this thread (probably belongs in beyond dreaming). However this is the kind of thing I want people to discuss, I believe that this thread has grown past just being a tutorial, here we can discuss each others experiences and idea's. The people here (lucidraider, kaffy, hawkeye etc) are all regulars and this has become a kind of Q&A/chat thread.
Thank you for the concern though.

I personally do not believe in time dilation, our brains are already working quite hard to dream at a normal pace, imagine how much work it would take to dream in 2x speed or like some people claim 1000x. Throughout my lucid journeys I have realized this, not only can our senses be manipulated so can our emotions. Most people don't think about this and usually assume that our emotions are caused by what we just experienced.
I believe that time dilation is caused by these fabricated experiences/emotions, we do not actually live an entire 500 yrs we just feel like we have. Most likely the dreamer will remember actually living through 5-6 fragments and our brain will fill in the gap between it.

I believe you're correct, Dutch. I've remembered spending days in a dream, not as if it was actually prolonged time, but my brain only felt as though it were. Which means mastering something in years in a dream wouldn't quite be possible, but you could still use the general method of learning in a dream with normal dream time. Very thoughtful response on time dilation DR!

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

Hi sageous,
I understand that time dilation etc might not be the most suitable topic in this thread (probably belongs in beyond dreaming). However this is the kind of thing I want people to discuss, I believe that this thread has grown past just being a tutorial, here we can discuss each others experiences and idea's. The people here (lucidraider, kaffy, hawkeye etc) are all regulars and this has become a kind of Q&A/chat thread.
Thank you for the concern though.

Woohoo i'm part of something. :') ahaha!.
Anyway the mind is an amazing concept, capable of amazing things, so is the soul. So I'm not surprised really. C: amazing stuffs.

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

Hi sageous,
I understand that time dilation etc might not be the most suitable topic in this thread (probably belongs in beyond dreaming). However this is the kind of thing I want people to discuss, I believe that this thread has grown past just being a tutorial, here we can discuss each others experiences and idea's. The people here (lucidraider, kaffy, hawkeye etc) are all regulars and this has become a kind of Q&A/chat thread.
Thank you for the concern though.

Never mind then!

Sorry for disrupting the flow. I'll try to keep my nose in my own business from now on ... I'll likely fail, but I'll still try!

Originally Posted by Sageous

Never mind then!

Sorry for disrupting the flow. I'll try to keep my nose in my own business from now on ... I'll likely fail, but I'll still try!

Lol Sageous, if you are going to go snooping around threads making sure they are on topic you should be a forum mod, it would suit you.

^^ I hope that's a good thing...

I won't give up on this technique. I may have not gotten it yet, But I will. Even if I fail, I will carry on.

As for the soul, I believe it's capable of much more than we know.
For all we know, science may have the answer, it could just be under their noses.

^^ Or about two inches to the right of their noses. Never to be seen ...

That's why we press on, I think.

Well maybe scientist are simply too narrow minded to even consider the possibility of the soul because the thought of us being more than just walking meatbags hurts their belief system. And the ones that are open minded about the soul doing research on OBE seem to be behind the scenes.

^^ It doesn't hurt their belief system; it confuses it. Confounds it. They hate that.

Originally Posted by Daredevilpwn

Well maybe scientist are simply too narrow minded to even consider the possibility of the soul because the thought of us being more than just walking meatbags hurts their belief system. And the ones that are open minded about the soul doing research on OBE seem to be behind the scenes.

I agree. Scientists who aren't open minded are just... well, a bit useless in the end, because there is stuff out there that needs some explanation, and if they reject these things, well we might never know. :'/

Aha this thread. XD
Imma DEILD. Attempt. Tonight again. c:

Originally Posted by LucidRaider

Aha this thread. XD
Imma DEILD. Attempt. Tonight again. c:

Go go go go go go go go. You got this bro

Originally Posted by bobberski

Go go go go go go go go. You got this bro

Ahaha this made me chuckle. :3
thanks bro.

The problem i get with this technique is that, when i wake up from my short alarm, i dont have a problem staying still, but when i do my mouth beecomes really dry, am i not allowed to even swallow or would that defeat the purpose of rDIELD'ing, also i have successfully remained still and did nothing before, but nothing happend for me it just remained black for like 5 mins so i eventually gave up and rolled over, any tips please?

Scientists and the belief system....
One day all will be explained.
What I'd like to know, is Why our daydreams can't be as vivid and sensational as our dreams at night.