Thread: Dutchraptor's Deild Guide - Become an Ld god.

I did it!! I finally did it!!!
Here I was in a dream when suddenly I realized I was dreaming (score) but for fear of it ending I decided I would dive into darkness and it would do one of two things, it would A. produce a false awakening, or B. wake me up so I could perform a DEILD. And it did B, it took me a second to allow the automatic breathing to do it's thing, but once I did it and the vibrations stopped, I slowly allowed myself to sit up in bed, I then performed a RC, the noseplug check, and it worked!!! I broke my dry spell!!! Every time I did the noseplug RC check to remind myself I was dreaming, it would work.. My lights were off of course so I tried turning them on by shouting "lights on" that didn't work so I decided to look for a flashlight in my pocket, no luck there either, but then it was suddenly light in my room! I decided to practice floating stuff around and just random things, I brought a dead bunny back to life and killed it multiple times after doing so.. >.>
I'm going to have another one and I'm going to try More things!
Happy Dreaming!!

Waking up naturally is actually horrible. It is probably the reason I have so many lucid dreams and why I remember so many dreams a night. I have a bad back, anxiety issues, acid reflux and a horrible sleep schedule that make it difficult for me to sleep longer than 3 to 4 hours at a time. Though it helps with lucid dreaming, it makes it difficult to have a good nights sleep. Many of the things mentioned, I do already just because that is how my mind works. I am a very creative person and when I am laying with my eyes closed I think of random scenarios that usually could never happen in real life. I have no particular reason, I just enjoy creating. Also I have very interesting dreams with awesome plots so I taught myself to remember dreams years ago. I think it was about ten years ago when I began training myself to recall dreams and so I am very good at it now. Some dreams I purposely forget because they are boring and consist of me making drinks all night after a long day at work (these are the worst because I work forever and wake up to the realization that I am not getting paid for it haha). I am only 22 but I feel as though I have explored the dream world more than most because it is the place I can fully create without the bounds of reality to hinder me.

My recommendation for achieving lucidity is to stay relaxed and calm about the situation. If you try to force yourself to lucid dream, the stress will actually effect your dream and might make it more difficult. I actually learned to lucid dream from having nightmares. I used to have extreme night terrors growing up and lucid dreaming was my natural response to protect myself. Whenever something scares me and seems irrational, I realize I am dreaming. The best way to deal with it is to face whatever is chasing you or scaring you. I usually then decide that the object of my fear cannot harm me and I often decide to make it disappear or change it into something else. I have my best lucid dreams when they begin in a nightmare because the extreme fear I feel helps me become more lucid and then once I make sure the object of my fear is gone, I go about whatever endeavor I desire at that point

I should also mention I took about 800 mg of Vitamin B6... So that may have helped a little bit. >.>
I've also been doing what I Believe Sagaeous said to do, study the backs of your eyelids when you're falling asleep.
Become aware of what it's like when your eyes are closed, so you're able to realize when you're waking up before it's too late.
I'll try the same dose of Vitamin B6 again After 4 hours of sleep (I made the mistake of taking it just before I begun my sleep last night)
So I'll see what happens, and I'll also be doing what I've been doing, study the backs of my eyelids.
I didn't find it difficult to move in my dream at all either, by the way. It was rather easy. I need to work on my moving things with my mind. Also need to work on anchoring myself in the dream and making things a little more clear.

Well it didn't make a difference, but persistence is key. I'll keep trying and posting my results.
Hopefully it'll happen again soon, I quite enjoyed the DEILD I had, definitely the most interesting method I've done.
Also, I'd like to thank Dutchraptor for this guide and the thread that's been going for some time now. It has definitely been helpful, and the conversations have been... Interesting. lol

lol ^
I hope you succeed at this, hawk.
I am still on this too.

I just hope next time I have a lucid dream, I don't randomly decide that I want to try to eat bark from a tree....
It tasted Disgusting. Good thing is, there's never an aftertaste in dreams.

lol wow xD ^

I didn't have a lot of control.. >.>
Yeah, it was one long strip of bark, not good at all.
Describing the taste, it's probably like an old chocolate bar that was unwrapped and put in a dusty basement for a few years before someone ate it.

I'm really having trouble with the waking up part. I tried auto-suggestion every night for over a week and I just can't seem to wake up right after a dream and be aware enough to remain still or any of that. Most of the time I end up waking up in the morning like usual. I tried an alarm that auto shuts off after a few seconds but it just seems to jolt me to awake to be able to deild.

If one can master the art of waking up after a dream correctly, then your chance of nightly lucids goes way up. Which is why I am wanting to get this down so badly.

Any advice is muchly appreciated. Thanks

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

I'm really having trouble with the waking up part. I tried auto-suggestion every night for over a week and I just can't seem to wake up right after a dream and be aware enough to remain still or any of that. Most of the time I end up waking up in the morning like usual. I tried an alarm that auto shuts off after a few seconds but it just seems to jolt me to awake to be able to deild.

If one can master the art of waking up after a dream correctly, then your chance of nightly lucids goes way up. Which is why I am wanting to get this down so badly.

Any advice is muchly appreciated. Thanks

A really handy tip I found out after I wrote this guide is to WBTB first. Wake up using a constant alarm around 3 hours after waking up, turn it off and tell yourself you will wake up from your dreams etc, then fall asleep. It seems that mantra's have alot more effect if you say them during a WBTB.

Finally its the weekend. Perhaps I can finally do DEILD. Haven't been having luck lately but I am DETERMINED to do this. Thank goodness its a holiday on monday so thats one extra day to DEILD. Wish me luck

Good Luck

I came VERY close to doing it today. I woke up in the right position for once, I felt the vibes but then they died down, despite all my efforts to keep them going. (A handy trick I learned is by imagining a ball of energy and taking it into yourself actually helps with transitioning, atleast for me it does) But I am starting to get the hang of it now. It seems I have better chances sleeping on my side than on my stomach.

Bought an alarm app, hoping I can get the damn thing to work correctly, maybe it won't work correctly on a jailbroken iPod? o.o
(Nevermind I figured it out ;D)
Hoping to perform another DEILD, the last one was Amazing!
Good luck to everyone else trying this method, and happy dreaming to you all!

Good luck to you too. Hopefully I can get at least ONE DEILD this month, and I will be happy.

So last night, for the second time while attempting DEILD, I wake up without moving and such, then after a while, I start to see my "room" through my eyelids. I used to think it was just my eyes opening but the Dreamviews podcast pointed out that it's actually a FA. The problem though, is that once I open my dream eyes completely, the moment I move them, I move my real eyes and wake up. I could stare at any single point for forever but if I look anywhere else, I awaken. What should I do next time this happens? Without moving my eyes, do the nose RC?

Originally Posted by CloudOFmichael

So last night, for the second time while attempting DEILD, I wake up without moving and such, then after a while, I start to see my "room" through my eyelids. I used to think it was just my eyes opening but the Dreamviews podcast pointed out that it's actually a FA. The problem though, is that once I open my dream eyes completely, the moment I move them, I move my real eyes and wake up. I could stare at any single point for forever but if I look anywhere else, I awaken. What should I do next time this happens? Without moving my eyes, do the nose RC?

Well done, you've done most of thework I don't really know how to solve your problem, maybe you could try teleporting to a different scene

Thanks yo! I'll try that tonight!

Originally Posted by CloudOFmichael

The problem though, is that once I open my dream eyes completely, the moment I move them, I move my real eyes and wake up. I could stare at any single point for forever but if I look anywhere else, I awaken.

Can you move anything else without waking up?
Last time I did a DEILD I sat up in bed and then did a noseplug RC and was set.

Originally Posted by HawkeyeTy

Can you move anything else without waking up?
Last time I did a DEILD I sat up in bed and then did a noseplug RC and was set.

I haven't yet and nothing happened last night but I'll try both your tips tonight !

This is a great DEILD guide, and I must admit, dream exit initiated lucid dreams are the easiest to achieve. And they are amazingly vivid at times as well! The only part of DEILD that I absolutely despise is the uncomfortable feeling you get when you wake up from a dream and are about to transition into a lucid dream. For me, my body feels as though it is being compressed by a powerful exterior force

Overall, great guide and thanks for posting it!

Hey! welcome to Dreamviews .

Originally Posted by HeyImJack

This is a great DEILD guide, and I must admit, dream exit initiated lucid dreams are the easiest to achieve. And they are amazingly vivid at times as well! The only part of DEILD that I absolutely despise is the uncomfortable feeling you get when you wake up from a dream and are about to transition into a lucid dream. For me, my body feels as though it is being compressed by a powerful exterior force

Overall, great guide and thanks for posting it!

Hey, thanks for the nice words I actually happen to love the feeling of transitioning. Often I want to focus on the feeling because it gives me a happy feeling but then I kinda ruin it because I forget what I'm doing

Every time my little brother has had lucid dreams it's been with DEILD, yeah I'd say he's a natural at it just about. -.-
Then again, he's young and younger people tend to have more lucid dreams. But he's never had them or talked about them until I've told him about lucid dreaming. It's nice having a family member that you can share dreams with.