Thread: Nlp Lucid Dreaming Induction (nild)

I've been listening, but you dild was rather good to begin with, so I can't really gauge how much its helping.

Downloaded it, I'll try it tonight ---> feedback tomorrow.

Downloaded and tried it twice. First time I try one of these things and honestly it hasn't helped so far. No sweat though, since it's kind of my fault because I have a tendency to try and stay alert and move a bit rather than just listen. I kinda end up thinking at times if it's working or not instead of just sticking with it, and I guess I try to expect too much to happen without just letting go. Oh well, I might try it again some time, maybe when I'm more tired so it's not as hard to get into it.

Tried it last night on my iPod and speakers, but it kept on stopping after 8 mins. The iPod just stopped playing it and returned to the Main Menu screen. confusing. Yea so then I gave up since you can't really be in a trance and then have to find the place where you were when it stopped... Anyone know why it stops? I'll try again tonight

I listened to your recording last night, for the first time. I fell asleep before the end, but the headphones remained on. I woke up some time later from a dream that I now don't remember.
A few hours later I woke up again after a dream... and around 4:30 I woke up yet again.
Each time I fell asleep easily afterwards.
This is rare for me to wake up during the night, and I usually hear my roommate's alarm going off at 6:30 before mine goes off at 6:50-7:00.
But this morning I didn't hear his alarm at all! After I fell asleep at 4:30, I awoke at my alarm time without problem. I felt rested....
So, I don't know if I ought to attribute all of those occurrences to the trance recording or what, it is too early to tell, but it is interesting and I will try it again tonight.

Originally Posted by Feynaro

I listened to your recording last night, for the first time. I fell asleep before the end, but the headphones remained on. I woke up some time later from a dream that I now don't remember.
A few hours later I woke up again after a dream... and around 4:30 I woke up yet again.
Each time I fell asleep easily afterwards.
This is rare for me to wake up during the night, and I usually hear my roommate's alarm going off at 6:30 before mine goes off at 6:50-7:00.
But this morning I didn't hear his alarm at all! After I fell asleep at 4:30, I awoke at my alarm time without problem. I felt rested....
So, I don't know if I ought to attribute all of those occurrences to the trance recording or what, it is too early to tell, but it is interesting and I will try it again tonight.
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sounds like my command for "waking up a little bit early to assist dream recall" worked! :-)

ranma, I want to thank you. I just had my 3rd lucid dream! It was the best ever, as it actually stayed stable. I started listening to your mp3 on a cd witch headphones on. I got to the end of the mp3 and I was pissed because I wasn't in a lucid. But I WAS so close to it, closer then I ever have been with any other mp3 induction. Anyway I fell asleep and woke up the next morning. I was like man, its the morning already? wtf no one woke me up for tea or anything. But im so AWAKE! Anyway I am not going to go into full details here, I will write it in my dream journal later, but this was a dream and I realised after a while of dreaming and I became lucid! I had the most control I have ever had. So even is I don't get lucid WHILE i'm listening to your mp3, I still fall asleep afterwards and lucid dream! I will try this again now when I go to sleep and report back tomorrow morning!

Originally Posted by tommo

ranma, I want to thank you. I just had my 3rd lucid dream! It was the best ever, as it actually stayed stable. I started listening to your mp3 on a cd witch headphones on. I got to the end of the mp3 and I was pissed because I wasn't in a lucid. But I WAS so close to it, closer then I ever have been with any other mp3 induction. Anyway I fell asleep and woke up the next morning. I was like man, its the morning already? wtf no one woke me up for tea or anything. But im so AWAKE! Anyway I am not going to go into full details here, I will write it in my dream journal later, but this was a dream and I realised after a while of dreaming and I became lucid! I had the most control I have ever had. So even is I don't get lucid WHILE i'm listening to your mp3, I still fall asleep afterwards and lucid dream! I will try this again now when I go to sleep and report back tomorrow morning!
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cool, may i add this to the testominials? that's awesome. The most i've gotten was very vivid HI either during or after the induction. It's not really designed to induce a lucid dream during the induction, but rather set up lucid dreaming in a beneficial manner, so that over time, when the commands take hold, It will become easier to LD regularly. but if you LD right away that's great too!

My next induction will be called a "double induction". where one voice speaks into the left ear, and the other speaks into the right. if anyone can find some MP3's about 20 or more minutes long, of relaxing atmospheric music, or beach sounds, that would be great!

No prolem man, add away!
I tried it again last night and unfortunately I didn't have another LD. However this may be because of that part where you say the two balls of energy in your hand make an agreement with each other. You know how one doesn't want you to have an LD and one does. I made them come to the agreement that I would have an LD every second night, just to start off with. So both sides could be happy!
I have some tracks that are fairly long, some nature sounds liek birds and forest etc and also beaches. If you wanna add me on msn I can send em to ya [email protected]

Originally Posted by tommo

No prolem man, add away!
I tried it again last night and unfortunately I didn't have another LD. However this may be because of that part where you say the two balls of energy in your hand make an agreement with each other. You know how one doesn't want you to have an LD and one does. I made them come to the agreement that I would have an LD every second night, just to start off with. So both sides could be happy!
I have some tracks that are fairly long, some nature sounds liek birds and forest etc and also beaches. If you wanna add me on msn I can send em to ya [email protected]
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cool man let me know how it goes. I'll add you right away!

Any more testers????

Sorry, I forgot to get back to you:

I listened to it that first night. A few things on it were a bit distracting. I also happened to think of another idea that I decided to try that night as well. Anyway, I'm not sure which method did the trick but I did indeed have an LD that very night! I haven't listened to your recording again since then so I can't give you much more feedback as of yet. I'm still trying to focus on my "new method" I thought of. And I haven't spent much time testing it either, beyond the first few days... It's a vicious cycle.

I've been having good luck with WBTB and MILD lately so I'm enjoying those harvests at the moment. I promise I'll get back to trying your recording again soon. My verdict thus far? There's a good chance that it did work for me but, my one-shot testing is not conclusive. That's all I can say at the present time, however.

yeah I'm working on a better induction. Any insoght on exactly "What" was distracting about it would be greatly appreciated!

Distractions:

- Like you said, different volumes/blowing into the mic.

- Coughing/background sounds kinda snap you out of it

- Some hesitations or hard to hear words

- I couldve sworn you said "incongruous elephants..." before saying it correctly

Originally Posted by ranma187

keep at a moderate volume 'cause there are times when i accidently raise my voice a little or accidently blow into the mic. those might jar you out of the trance.[/b]

The first problem can be fixed with a sound dynamics effect, and the second with an EQ effect.
If you want I can do it for you.

The main problems I had was where you coughed and mumbled the words, like you said the wrong thing and stopped half way through that word and said the right thing (probably could be called, as Wildman said, hesitations). These kind of reminded me that I was listening to a person speaking if that makes any sense. I didn't find the changes in sound levels that bad, much better then in other induction type things I have tried, but this was a problem for other people so you should fix that.

The first problem can be fixed with a sound dynamics effect, and the second with an EQ effect.
If you want I can do it for you.[/b]

I don't think anything like this should be done, it just needs to be recorded straight and simple so that it is more natural. The only changes should be done by the person listening and that is to adjust the equalizer.

Originally Posted by tommo

The main problems I had was where you coughed and mumbled the words, like you said the wrong thing and stopped half way through that word and said the right thing (probably could be called, as Wildman said, hesitations). These kind of reminded me that I was listening to a person speaking if that makes any sense. I didn't find the changes in sound levels that bad, much better then in other induction type things I have tried, but this was a problem for other people so you should fix that.
I don't think anything like this should be done, it just needs to be recorded straight and simple so that it is more natural. The only changes should be done by the person listening and that is to adjust the equalizer.[/b]

Thanks guys, I do have a less noisy induction on the page, i do cough a bit on that one near the end, but eitherwise it's more straight. I found a better microphone, it makes my voice sound more bassey. so i will do my new induction with that!

I think the distractions I experienced were due to "off-topic" banter, such as "what you may expect..." or something like that. I'll have to listen again to remember exactly what it was. The speech stumbles weren't so bad, in my opinion.

I think the distractions I experienced were due to "off-topic" banter, such as "what you may expect..." or something like that.[/b]

Personally I didn't have any problem with the actual lines you said. Maybe you will have to make a seperate induction for each person haha! jk, I am eagerly awaiting your next mp3!!!!

yeah i almost got my other computer online. just fixing damn bugs. gotta install the modem the right way etc etc. It's pissing me off. But when i get it up, tommo you could send me some background mp3's

But yeah the thing with NLP. The reason why i say certain things the way I do. I'm not sure exactly what you mean. but with statements like "While you're out there and in here (hear) the sound of my voice." I once listened to an entire induction that way and it put me out cold!. that's an example of an "overload" technique. And just because you're concous mind doesn't know what's going on. your unconcious picks up on everything. The double induction will have that a lot. Because you'll have two voices speaking that way, finishing eachothers sentences sometimes embbing 5 ambigous in one statement.

Originally Posted by ranma187

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I have to say man, thank you so much. I got my first LD last night because of this. It's probably the most useful thing I have ever used for LDing. I don't know what it is but you have a very "trancey" like voice that kinda drones on and on. And that's not a bad thing. This is a really great mp3 and I'm really happy that you made it. Thanks a lot. And if you would like to read about what I dreampt (sp?) about, check out my dream journal. Thanks so much.

cool! gotta read that stuff!

I had it looped and running all last night. Anyway, the part I was saying is a bit distracting is the section about the brain's plasticity and the boy losing the speech hemisphere of the brain. Though, I'll admitt, it's not as distracting as I was thinking when I first brought up that point.

Oh that's the use of a metaphor!

a lot of people have limiting beliefs. that say "I can't do this because of X" but of course it's not true. If you run around saying "I can't I can't" you are limiting yourself. That was just the use of a metaphor, to help re-frame such limiting beliefs.