Thread: Finger Induced Lucid Dream (fild)

Hello i'm trying to help you, although i tried it once, and didnt bacame lucid ,but i was pretty close as u were too.U dont need to wait this long,after u felt the sensation(in my case it was strong voice hallutination-ill write my experience in the end of the post)
u need to do an rc.Even if u r pretty sure u r still awake, do that, u may be surprised.And u dont need to ly on ur back,most people-as me, fall asleep the most difficult position on the back.Ly on ur favorite pos, for example on ur stomac.(where u usually fall asleep at the fastest way..

So here is my report, it was 2 nights ago.I was very tired when i get to bed at the night(first time), so i read here, u need to wake at the the middle of the night, or early mourning.But i tried when i get to bed after my day, coz why not?If i fail i'll wake up thanks to my alarm settings on my phone, at the middle of the night.
I was waiting about 5-10 mins with closed eyes, and pay attantion to my state of the "falling asleep extra easy and fast".When i reached this(i usually feel vibration front of my closed eyes), starting my movements of my fingers(Very important i think, to do it really gently, so u dont need to lift up your fingers, i did that way.I just put my palm under my pillow, and started the two fingers pushing(like someone said pages before, pretend u press rapitadly two buttons on a keyboard.)
I did this couple of mins i guess, and i've heard a freaking loud noise in my ears from close distance.(it was like someone pull back a string of a reed and release.It was so interesting, but the problem is my head was jolted lol.And this experience and sudden movement of my
head wakes me up totally.But i was glad, coz this is a good signe it will maybe work for me too.
I 've had noise hallutinations before, but lot more years ago, while i did the wild, it was pretty long time ago, i started to forget how it feels, until this time.Will keep trying until i turn into fales awakening.

EDIT.Ok i didnt answered all of ur question, so..
If u dont see anything does not mean u are still awake.As i read(all the pages), this tech ended up with false awakening.So if u still see the darkness, do the reality check, maybe u r already in the dream lucid.After this u can imagine ur room(while ur eyes still shutted down), or change the night-time, to daylight. i dunno it is just my theory depending to the others experience, coz i couldnt get the successfuly RC yet)
And yes, when it happened this to me 2 nights ago, and after couple of hours of sleep, i felt my legs really heavy, just went back to sleep without the fild.
But i will working on it, couse i can wake up in the middle of the night when i sugerate into my head.
But i think if u r really tired, u can get this ld with this tech, without setting alarm to wake you up.

This worked for me last night, combination of CAN-WILD and FILD, let's call it CAN-FILD (Custom Alarm Noise - Finger Induced Lucid Dream). This is my fourth lucid dream, ever, even though I have been trying for years. I think the trick is to get the timing and the details correct. I had quite a long lucid dream, had no trouble with waking up right away. Below are details of how I got it to work so that it may benefit others who are struggling.

Alarm Clock
I have a droid phone, and it use it as my alarm to wake me up in the morning. I use a distinctive piercing alarm to get out of bed. The exact ring tone is not important, it's the math problems i have to solve to turn it off. I have been conditioned to wake the f!ck up when I hear this alarm because it doesn't go away until I do a few math problems on my phone. I do this because otherwise I have the problem others have evinced on this thread, where you sleepily shut off the alarm and fall unconscious again without noticing, or sleep through it.
I got the app Alarm Clock Xtreme Free, and programmed the alarm to slowly rise to full volume over 10 seconds, then stay there for 5 seconds before auto-snoozing for 11 minutes. That means the alarm slowly gains volume and rings for 15 seconds, not jarring me awake and causing me to move. If it doesn't wake me up it goes off again after 11 minutes, then just loops that way forever.

Timing
Went to sleep at 11:30 and set the alarm for 4 hours later, 3:30AM. I was actually woken by the auto-snooze alarm at around 4:30, so that's 5 hours of sleep. I imagine this will be different for most people so this setup takes the guesswork out of it. Eventually you WILL wake up with this great app.

Technique
Upon hearing the alarm I lay still and did not get excited. Imagine if the alarm just meant it was time for you to do your homework, about that level of arousal. I did not start thinking of all the stuff I would do in my dream, I didn't even think about dreaming. Empty mind, concentrate on your fingers. I woke up on my back with my dominant hand on my stomach. This is the hand I practiced twitching my fingers with, so I used it even though it wasn't where I'd prefer (on my side or under my pillow). I twitched the fingers very gently, almost too little to move. I did not count the seconds, just focused on getting the motion right for moment to moment. I did this until I heard a faint buzzing in my ears and a mild sense of dislocation. In retrospect this may have taken 10-20 secnods, max. Again, I did not track the time or count anything.
I lifted my other hand to my nose and tried to breathe, success. I opened my eyes and was in my room, but everything was very gray and indistinct.

I imagine this is where most people wake up. A great thing to do is to deepen the reality of the dream by palpating your surroundings. I looked down at my bedspread and started looking at it up close and feeling it with my hands, moving constantly and not focusing on a single spot for more than a split second. Basically crawling over it like looking for fleas. Within a few seconds my vision became crystal clear and my surroundings solidified. From there I had a very fun lucid dream, it lasted around 10 minutes I think since when I came out of it my alarm clock was about to ring again.


Great technique, can't wait to try it again. If you sleep with someone and can't bother them with your bloody alarm ringing every ten minutes throughout the night, get a comfortable pair of in-ear headphones and wear those to sleep. They sell stuff out there that you can wear without end and not hurt your ears.

Well done, report back if u still find this tech working.I say that because i red lot of forum about this technique, and many ppl said that, it was worked for him for the very first time when he tried that and never again.It is so interresting.But i found that too, when i first tried this tech it was half a success coz i heard a loud noise in my ears(as u can read the post upper yours).So it was hopeful.But since then i tried this tech about 4-5 times with no results.I keep on to try it.

Now that I have what seems to be a working plan I will try this tech every night that I can, for a while, and I will post about my successes and failures if they are germane to this thread.

Im rather new to lucid dreaming and would like to use this technique to get my first few lucid dreams
But I have some questions regarding the actual method:
1) How important is it to sleep 4-5 hours before trying this? Can I use this technique after or before sleeping?
2) Am I going to experience hallucinations or sounds or sleep paralysis?
3) While trying these kind of things I get really nervous ( heart beating a lot faster etc) and I'm sure that is what kept me from
getting LD's ... is there a way to 'calm down' or relax before or while using this technique like slowly breathing etc?

Im really happy I found this forum and especially this technique! It looks really promissing

This seems like an extremely long post for such a simple technique. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the extent of this method would appear to be:

When you are just about to fall asleep at any point during the night, move your index and middle fingers like you are playing the piano. After a while (anywhere between 10 seconds and 5 minutes) do a nose-plug reality check.

2 sentences. Is it really that simple? I know there are a few finer details, but is there something I'm missing?

Originally Posted by Warique

This seems like an extremely long post for such a simple technique. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the extent of this method would appear to be:

When you are just about to fall asleep at any point during the night, move your index and middle fingers like you are playing the piano. After a while (anywhere between 10 seconds and 5 minutes) do a nose-plug reality check.

2 sentences. Is it really that simple? I know there are a few finer details, but is there something I'm missing?

If you're lucky it will really be that simple for you, other people have difficulty with different details like:

- How to make sure you are sleepy enough
- How much to move your fingers
- How fast to move your fingers
- What mental state you need while moving your fingers
- What to do when your reality check fails (meaning you are dreaming)

Im gonna try this technique tonight ill comment on here if it works

Well i gave it a couple days to try the technique and i jsut couldnt pull it off im gonna try it again for a few more days and see how it goes.

Gonna try this tonight. I can give you a tip for you guys: instead of doing nose pinch reality check, you can try a really subtle one:
Try to look upwards with your eyes as it's possible. If you feel anything that doesn't let you look higher, it means IT IS NOT a dream. If you don't feel anything it means you're in a dream. It's great because you don't need to move.

Yeah you guessed it right, it didn't work. I bet it was because I didn't wake up from REM state, I woke up from NREM state.

The suprising part here, is that I woke up naturally 3 minutes before alarm clock! I don't know if it was accident.
I never give up, will also try this again! I don't remember any obvious FAs, but I feel like I had one.

Yeah I tried it again. When the alarm ringed, I didn't feel like I'm waking up from sleep, I felt like I was lying there for some time and then alarm ringed. I bet it was the space between dreams. If I would notice that I'm kinda awake, I could do a DEILD. Anyway, I quickly turned off the alarm, I said to myself, well, I think I'm too awake. Let's relax a bit. I closed my eyes, and you probably know what happened next. I instantly fell asleep. Today is new year, I will be awake for a lot of time, so I'll try a WILD.

could u not just have your TV or radio playing softly in the background? dont listen to it but u should still be able to tell if it turns off... if u are in a dream it should sound like its been turned off.. right?

Originally Posted by dreamer7

could u not just have your TV or radio playing softly in the background? dont listen to it but u should still be able to tell if it turns off... if u are in a dream it should sound like its been turned off.. right?

Interesting insight dreamer7, you would think that might be the case however the sounds you hear when your asleep don't necessarily turn off, infact quite often I've had music playing all night (or audio tapes about lucid dreaming) in which I have recalled in a dream, noticed and became lucid. It's like when you are completely concentrated on something like reading or playing a game and there's other noises in the room which you physically hear but pay no attention to, when a friend or parent is shouting to you but you 'ignore' them subconsciously you would do the contrary of this

Dreaming is about disconnecting from the physical world, external stimulus will keep you closer to the physical world so no.

FILD definitely works. I did it last night. It was a short dream, but with stabilization and practice, that can be fixed. It's cool how seamless and imperceptible the transition from awake to dream was. I recommend doing it when very sleepy and likely to fall back asleep quickly. It is a great anchor for WILD I think.

Originally Posted by Matt1

FILD definitely works. I did it last night. It was a short dream, but with stabilization and practice, that can be fixed. It's cool how seamless and imperceptible the transition from awake to dream was. I recommend doing it when very sleepy and likely to fall back asleep quickly. It is a great anchor for WILD I think.

FILD is a WILD itself.

I haven't been able to get success since then with this technique. I think the problem is that subconsciously it's harder to fall asleep (with lucidity) when you KNOW the method works. Even a little anticipation or excitement will kill a WILD I think, since it keeps you wide awake in reality. I will keep trying.

Why can't I visualise? I would prefer to imagine I'm doing something to someone with those two fingers to a certain someone ^^

I tried last night and i fall asleep, i read where he said to try finger movement when we are near to the point to fall asleep, how to recognize when i close to fall asleep? I always pass out..

I wake up during the night via alarm and do the technique immediately, otherwise I fall back asleep always sooner than I think.

Can you do it in the Afternoon

I'm looking for a way to do FILD without waking my wife. I was thinking I can use my rem dreamer mask with high intensity flashes so it will wake me up when I'm in REM mode to do the FILD.

Anyone tried this? Do you think it will work ? Is it a good idea to be awaken at the beginning of the REM cycle to do FILD? I understand that one needs to be very tired. Not sure REM situation is tired phase of sleep which will allow FILD to work. What do you think?

Has anyone tried this in a nap?