i voted def. not. |
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Are ghosts a real phenomena or not? If so, what are they? If not how can you explain the phenomenon? |
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Last edited by Omnis Dei; 09-16-2011 at 07:12 PM.
Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
i voted def. not. |
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My guess for most "ghost encounters" is that when we're in the dark, we can't see very well. The brain fills the huge gaps in visual data with primal imagery, like people, animals, etc. The other "encounters" are probably hallucinations due to other factors like hypnagogia, schizophrenia, drugs. As for "poltergeists", well those people are just plain lying. |
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Also, maybe people long time ago used to tell stories about ghosts and one thing led to another and people believe them now |
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Well my view on it its like this. I have not experienced anything of it, this is just book knowledge. So I cant clam this being 'correct'. |
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Last edited by Ivan452; 09-16-2011 at 06:45 PM.
That is why I said that I cant claim this being 'correct' at the very start. |
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Last edited by Ivan452; 09-16-2011 at 08:46 PM.
When I hear people reciting there anecdotal ghost stories I notice two things. 1) (and this is a minor detail) is that most people with ghost experiences are predominately religious, I never met an atheist who has seen a ghost. Perhaps this implies that religious people are "more open" to the supernatural or the occult than atheists (or it could imply that people in question just use faulty logic to establish the existence of supernatural entities whether it be ghosts or gods). Also the dead being resurrected as well as a belief in the after life are ubiquitous features in religion. |
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Last edited by stormcrow; 09-16-2011 at 09:27 PM.
Sorry stormcrow, but I don't understand the quote. |
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I voted probably not because I've never encountered evidence for it. I'd say I'm pretty open to things like that. When I was younger, I was very suggestible. I was introverted, used to talk to spirits I believed were there, I often daydreamed and stared at nothing to the point of people commenting a lot, etc. I'm less like that now, but it seems I was the type of person who should be open to seeing ghosts if any existed. Not once in my life have I experienced anything that I'd consider evidence for anything paranormal. |
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sometimes when its dark with maybe one small light on (so pretty dark) you might see wisps or air here and there |
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I wasn't sure whether I should have posted it or not considering it didn't necessarily contribute to my points. First of all I think what he is getting at in the first sentence (which is the most significant part of the quote) is that ghosts are (psychological) manifestations of a persons longing to return to this idealized state where they are united with their loved ones. Usually when we remember deceased loved ones we have a tendency to idealize them, remembering only the positive aspects of that persons life. Ghosts are abstractions from the personality and memories of that particular loved one, they exist in the present only through memory. Someone who lives in the past, like a memory, is as dead as the ghost they fantasize about. I don't think I'm gonna try to interpret the bit about technology, this post is already riddled with enough nonsense for one day. Haha I know you are going to shake your head at this post Cmind. |
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I think I know what you're talking about. When I'm in a dark room with a single light source, I seem to see these ghostly wispy things emanate from edges (edges of doors, tables, etc.), and they appear to move outward from the source as my eyes naturally move about. My guess is that it's related to my astigmatism making my brain work harder to hold the images, so there's sometimes a bleed-over effect. |
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Last edited by cmind; 09-16-2011 at 11:08 PM.
Some facts: |
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Last edited by Omnis Dei; 09-16-2011 at 11:34 PM.
Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
I watched this a few weeks ago. It's pretty long, about an hour, but Derren Brown is always entertaining (to me). He discusses ghost claims and follows around a guy who claims to have years' worth of experience dealing with ghosts and have indisputable proof that they're real, including electronic voice phenomena. |
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Last edited by Dianeva; 09-16-2011 at 11:34 PM.
its 9 minutes :/ |
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I say no. The ghosts in pop culture are just trickery and screenwriting, how many people do you know have had "encounters" with evidence that didn't have any outside motivation? (Money, fame, publicity, attention, drugs, etc etc.) Also, if you think about it, how much of dreaming and sleep paralysis is like a ghost encounter? |
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Dream Goals:
Punch Slenderman in the face [ ]
Ride the USS Akron [ ]
Play the intro riff to Wanted Dead or Alive [ ]
Find Tartarus [ ]
Find more attainable goals [ ]
Thats pretty much what I'm trying to articulate (rather badly) yes. I think ghosts exist only as a memory in the human mind not physically. |
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Last edited by stormcrow; 09-17-2011 at 01:42 AM.
Nothing substantial, I'm looking into ghosts scientifically for the purpose of this topic so I'm sticking to commonalities, studies and research if at all possible. I may not seem it on the forum but I'm actually very skeptical IRL. I'm just not afraid to advocate things I haven't convinced myself of. For me, there's plenty of "feeling" associated with creepy places that seems to be different depending on where I'm at. For instance this house I'm at right now is well lit, elegant, properly modernized... there's nothing creepy about it. But everyone here feels a presence and people typically have trouble being here alone. Since I've been here alone for a week, I've noticed there's a lot of energy collecting in the hallway. This isn't a creepy hallway I dislike crossing. It can be very well lit and even if it wasn't I've more than faced my fear of darkness. (Pitch black hallways do not create this feeling) It just feels like there's something there. I came to this conclusion before anyone ever told me they thought it was haunted. That's all I can say. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
If you want to understand why people believe in ghosts, just watch one of those paranormal shows where somebody gets an exorcist or the like in. |
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Those are great, you should see the alcatraz one. That psychic was acting way off her rocker. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
When my cousin, Lydia, was a teenager she lived in an old house with her sister and my aunt and uncle. One night my uncle was out with friends, my aunt was working late as a nurse, and my other cousin was staying over at a friends house, so Lydia was home alone. She was in her bedroom reading a book, all the lights were on, when a girl suddenly appeared in her room. Lydia dropped the book and pulled the bed covers up to herself huddling in the corner, she was too terrified to speak. The girl was standing just inside the doorway, had long black hair, and was wearing a nightgown. Lydia said she looked like a real girl...but then she tried to speak...and quickly vanished. Lydia was paralyzed with fear. She eventually got up enough courage to reach for her telephone and call a friend to come over. She said it was terrifying, and there's no doubt in her mind that it was ghost. She has no reason to lie about such an experience. |
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