Thread: Do you believe in ghosts, and why/not?

I do, but I'm always in a "you don't bother me and I won't bother you" situation. When I feel them around or notice something supernatural.

Originally Posted by IZ

I do, but I'm always in a "you don't bother me and I won't bother you" situation. When I feel them around or notice something supernatural.

Yeah, me 2.
I am not sure if they exicst, but they better not, cuz it is.. scarry.

I believe in them, and scared sh1tless of them.

I was camping on an island when i was in scouts, i then looked at a bush while i was running on a log and i see an image of a woman reaching out to me all mangled up asking for help, been afraid of being alone in the woods at night ever since, and i used to always go alone in the woods at night.

I was asleep as my dad took my now dead dog for a walk and i hear something fall in the basement, and some movement....im laying on the couch then i hear creeks going up the steps, through the kitchen and dining room and into the living room only to stop RIGHT behind me, i'm frozen in fear and 20 seconds later the sound dissapears back downstairs
, something falls again and more movement and then it dissapears just as my dad opens the door. FREAKY!!!


It was Friday and it was egg morning at my old babysitters (she says she has a portal at her house and see's spirits every single day), i turn around and a few seconds later i see a white figure walking and turn to me, a male he was, he smiled and waved at me and walked into the livingroom, i go to the living room and see nothing but pitch black.


I've also had a feeling i was being watched and seen something come in my room and exit as i was looking at it. Stayed up for 2 hours seeing this and feeling it and telling it to go away in a scared voice.

I think i have some more but that's all i can remember atm.

I believe in them.
A lot of personal experiences that scared the living sh*t outta me.

I used to not believe in them but now I actually see apparitions regularly that could be written off by someone reading this as hallucination but I'm pretty sure they're not.

They don't scare me in any way, though, because they're just trapped in their subconscious wandering around as a shell of their former selves. Honestly whenever i see one I get struck with pity and typically try to project compassionate thoughts to help them move on.

I don't get it. Why do you assume that what you see are the spirits of dead people?

He assumes that, because his beliefs all logically point to that answer for him. Which has been constructed through his experiences, and internal representation.

Many people feel the same about seeing them though.

Originally Posted by Oneiro

I don't get it. Why do you assume that what you see are the spirits of dead people?

Seeing is believing.

I don't think ghosts are real no, first of all why are ghosts always humen, well it seems like 99% of the time I read a ghost story it has to be a ghost of a humen (well that might make sense to you christains with your humen supereority complexes), I mean billions apon billions of species existed on earth through time, theres probably a trillion diffrent creatures who have died, that makes up for some serious ghosts, ofcourse maybe ghosts only visit people who where close to them cause they have a connection, and if I were a ghost I'd be telling everyone I knew about it apon death, there should be people who think like me, and therefore ghost sightings would be far more frequent if ghosts where real, it all just doesn't make sense to me, kind of the way shared dreamign doesn't make sense to me, those 2 things seem to good/weird to be true and it just happens that not many people have ever seen them, alittle too suspecious to me.

Seems to me like wishful/fearful thinking.

Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

I don't think ghosts are real no, first of all why are ghosts always humen, well it seems like 99% of the time I read a ghost story it has to be a ghost of a humen (well that might make sense to you christains with your humen supereority complexes), I mean billions apon billions of species existed on earth through time, theres probably a trillion diffrent creatures who have died, that makes up for some serious ghosts, ofcourse maybe ghosts only visit people who where close to them cause they have a connection, and if I were a ghost I'd be telling everyone I knew about it apon death, there should be people who think like me, and therefore ghost sightings would be far more frequent if ghosts where real, it all just doesn't make sense to me, kind of the way shared dreamign doesn't make sense to me, those 2 things seem to good/weird to be true and it just happens that not many people have ever seen them, alittle too suspecious to me.

Seems to me like wishful/fearful thinking.

Like i mentioned, i believe they just need a while.

A few billion years, is slightly excessive. Though, time is perspective.

i think ghosts are mistaken for what hey really are, the spirits on different astral planes.

I would need serious hard proof to convince me of the existence of ghosts, or maybe the testimony of someone I know very well.

Until then, I'm a non-believer. I believe that after death, that's it.

Smell is the best provoker of memories of the departed. My grandmother died 6 years ago and sometimes I smell her and I know that she is there. I truly believe that there are others among us. I like the study of quatum physics in dealing with others and things that we don't see even when we know that they are there.

Originally Posted by DreamHerb

i think ghosts are mistaken for what hey really are, the spirits on different astral planes.

Technically it is a different plane that they found themselves trapped on after this life, it's like a paraplane of this one where they are trapped because they never realized they were dead, typically they refused to accept it.

The reason no other animals have ghosts is that they just don't cling, they have no reason to, they don't have egos in the same sense we do.

I have experienced two 'ghost' encounters, or 'spirit' or 'spectral', what ever fits your pants. both accounts were shared, and I was not the only person who saw/felt/heard/witnessed something

prior to both experiences there was no supernatural interest that lead into it, such as someone saying "oh this place is haunted!" no, they were at the time completely random and completely unexpected

so, there is no doubt in my mind. now for me the real questions are, what are they really, how do they interact with us, why are they here and who are they?

my interest has lead me to a lot of ideas. traditionally people feel if they see a ghost that ghost must be 'trapped' on earth unable to enter heaven or something. new stories and experiences say that may not necessarily be the case as now a lot of people no longer believe heaven is a 'place' but more of state of being. heaven can be here and there all at the same time, so not all witnessed spirits are necessarily 'trapped' but can be simply visiting or actually doing something meaningful

since I'm a believer, I actually can't wait for science to really consider this reality and look further into it. but I think before it can it has to first really discover the human consciousness in a way it hasn't before

Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

I don't think ghosts are real no, first of all why are ghosts always humen, well it seems like 99% of the time I read a ghost story it has to be a ghost of a humen (well that might make sense to you christains with your humen supereority complexes), I mean billions apon billions of species existed on earth through time, theres probably a trillion diffrent creatures who have died, that makes up for some serious ghosts, ofcourse maybe ghosts only visit people who where close to them cause they have a connection, and if I were a ghost I'd be telling everyone I knew about it apon death, there should be people who think like me, and therefore ghost sightings would be far more frequent if ghosts where real, it all just doesn't make sense to me, kind of the way shared dreamign doesn't make sense to me, those 2 things seem to good/weird to be true and it just happens that not many people have ever seen them, alittle too suspecious to me.

Seems to me like wishful/fearful thinking.

Yeah, OMG i just saw a Trex, it scared me!

Originally Posted by DreamHerb

i think ghosts are mistaken for what hey really are, the spirits on different astral planes.

I agree with that theory.

I recognize though, that there are many possible beliefs to other people though, who haven't had the same experiences, and/or internal representation.

I'm open to the idea but have not been convinced yet.

Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

I don't think ghosts are real no, first of all why are ghosts always humen, well it seems like 99% of the time I read a ghost story it has to be a ghost of a humen (well that might make sense to you christains with your humen supereority complexes), I mean billions apon billions of species existed on earth through time, theres probably a trillion diffrent creatures who have died, that makes up for some serious ghosts, ofcourse maybe ghosts only visit people who where close to them cause they have a connection, and if I were a ghost I'd be telling everyone I knew about it apon death, there should be people who think like me, and therefore ghost sightings would be far more frequent if ghosts where real, it all just doesn't make sense to me, kind of the way shared dreamign doesn't make sense to me, those 2 things seem to good/weird to be true and it just happens that not many people have ever seen them, alittle too suspecious to me.

Seems to me like wishful/fearful thinking.

it was neither wishful thinking or fear that lead to my experiences, or thousands of others. these things happen unexpectedly, and sometimes in broad daylight. they can happen so suddenly, there isn't any time to have some emotional reaction. the fear, if there is fear, can come in later. don't let horror movies cloud your understanding. for one, in a lot of ghosts experiences ghosts are not necessarily transparent. they can appear as solid as you and I

two, people have seen ghosts of their pets - why not random animals?

when you start to look at this phenomenon, you start to look at ideas about death and afterwards. NDE's tell us a lot of things, one, even if you wanted to visit your family from the other side you can't unless they are open minded enough to see you to begin with. if you are completely against seeing a spirit, you can never 'see' one of any kind - and random animals simply aren't going to be visiting us

and I think you're wrong about not many people seeing them. People have been seeing ghosts for as far back as mans history goes, cross culture, cross religion, cross continent. It's the most consistent phenomenon compared to miracles, demons, monsters and gods. Why do the numbers of people seeing a ghost appear so small? Well, they aren't. Studies have shown that today people are seeing more ghosts than ever. However, the ones who did the study believe that the supernatural isn't necessarily more active, but more people are willing to admit about their experience.

Fifty years ago, you wouldn't tell a soul about any spirit you saw at church. As obviously the bible says there is no communication with the dead. And since the church was more powerful back then, a lot of experiences that people had are only being talked about now - when they are less afraid to admit they experienced something that contradicts the bible *only in their perspective does it contradict*

If you saw a ghost, how willing or open are you telling people. . in person? Would you tell all of your friends? All of your family members? Your employees? Your teachers? It's still taboo to talk about in public, especially when most reactions are going to be "you imagined it" or "youre a liar". So if your frame of reference is how many people you know have had an experience, are you so sure??

The next thing that can make the number of ghost experiences misleading is simply age. The older you are the more likely you are to see one, as obviously the older you are the more likely someone close to you has died. An 80 year old has more departed to visit them than a teenager.

I know I did not imagine things. Whether or not the spirit is real, the phenomenon is.

I saw a ghost pet once. I was on the phone talking to a person who didn't believe at the haunted house stayed at when I saw what thought were the normal dogs there going to jump on the sofa. When it made contact with the sofa there was nothing there. It couldn't have been the other dogs either because the person only had two and they were in other rooms when it happen within sight of the owner. I even had a dream communication with the ghost in the house. I was shown one of their deaths, learned something about the area I didn't know or would have knowledge about, and had one tell me directly he wasn't the person we thought was there but sometimes gets mistaken. Then the person that we knew the name of I saw next and communicated with.

I don't know so much as to whether I believe in ghosts as much as I believe in spirits/entities. You may ask what's the difference...well my interpretation of a ghost is a human that is deceased. A spirit may be an entity that has been in existance for thousands to billions of years and has never been human, or has been human depending on if you believe in reincarnation (which I am starting to).

i beleive in spirits for one reason.
My best friend when i was in grade 7,killed himself. Ever since then, ive sensed, and seen him appear to me spiritually (only way i can explain it). It's just a very strong feeling of his presence, which usually comes on when i look at certain objects....
i can usually ALWAYS see his spirit when i see a cat, lion tiger of any type of feline.....
My theory is he might have been reincarnated as a tiger (it was his favorite animal)
OR felines have some kind of spiritual transmitor... some link to the spiritual world.

I wouldn't say that I "believe in them," but I definitely believe in the possibility that they exist. There are many scientific "truths" (as we recognize them now) that make room for the possibility of wandering spirits.

Least of all would be; there is a whole spectrum of things that we cannot (ordinarily) see. There are energies that we, as humans, can't detect, even with our most high-tech equipment. I do believe that thought can be very powerful, and I'm not inclined to believe that the energy that arises from thought is not detectable (if even on some other plane). I believe it's possible that the brain is merely a processor that allows for the attachment of a cosmic (spiritual, astral, whatever you wanna call it) energy to control a physical shell. If that is the case, then what happens when the body dies? Could that energy still exist? If so, that would constitute a ghost. And, if that is the case, we'd have to make some sort of case for why it is that some of us can see them, and some can't. I would argue, though, that some humans can hear pitches that some can't, and some humans can see images that others can't.

I simply don't know, either way. I'm definitely open to it, though.

No I know ghosts.

Why? I've met the buggers!