Thread: Telekinesis

Trolling is pretending to be stupid so as to aggravate somebody; examples of this include pretending to have a ridiculous opinion, using obviously spurious logic, and intentionally misunderstanding somebody.

Originally Posted by Xei

Trolling is pretending to be stupid so as to aggravate somebody; examples of this include pretending to have a ridiculous opinion, using obviously spurious logic, and intentionally misunderstanding somebody.

There is a broader definition, truly. But for in this case, this fits.

I think in generality you could define it as using dishonesty to get a rise out of someone (sometimes for fun, sometimes in a debate).

Sometimes the media refers to online bullying as 'trolling' but that's basically just them being misinformed.

Ridiculous... seriously what is your point? We can't prove it (or if we can in any way it's not accepted), and military wouldn't use it, only the biggest masters could use it to kill or do serious harm, and after a time meditation totally kills aggression out of you, so no, soldiers can't use it. Let's say we can't prove it, let's say there's no evidence so you don't have to believe it. Done. Anything else you want, or finally you'll get off this pointless arguing and do something constructive if you got so much time?

Originally Posted by 006

Ridiculous... seriously what is your point? We can't prove it (or if we can in any way it's not accepted), and military wouldn't use it, only the biggest masters could use it to kill or do serious harm, and after a time meditation totally kills aggression out of you, so no, soldiers can't use it. Let's say we can't prove it, let's say there's no evidence so you don't have to believe it. Done. Anything else you want, or finally you'll get off this pointless arguing and do something constructive if you got so much time?

1) you can prove it but no one has bothered to for some reason

2) You don't know that soldiers couldn't use it.

Originally Posted by Xei

Trolling is pretending to be stupid so as to aggravate somebody; examples of this include pretending to have a ridiculous opinion, using obviously spurious logic, and intentionally misunderstanding somebody.

Oh. No. I'm only serious. THis thread deserves nothing but seriousness. Especially considering despite my attempts to explain that it's not what people think it is people still dismiss it by saying the military and/or corporations would be taking advantage of it.

Originally Posted by 006

Ridiculous... seriously what is your point? We can't prove it (or if we can in any way it's not accepted), and military wouldn't use it, only the biggest masters could use it to kill or do serious harm, and after a time meditation totally kills aggression out of you, so no, soldiers can't use it. Let's say we can't prove it, let's say there's no evidence so you don't have to believe it. Done. Anything else you want, or finally you'll get off this pointless arguing and do something constructive if you got so much time?

If people are going to claim that telekinesis is possible, they need to present evidence that is reliable and believable. You can't just claim that you can move a car without physical contact and only using your mind. You say that the military would not use it because only masters of telekinesis would be able to do any harm, so why is it not possible that such a person exists in the military? Why wouldn't they be payed millions for their talents when they could stop bullets in their track like Neo from The Matrix? And who is to say that to achieve the ability to use telekinesis you even need to meditate? It hasn't even been proven so the method required to obtain such a power is as much of a mystery as the power itself. Not to mention that there would be an entire society of Tibetan Monks who would be able to use Telekinesis at a high level of control considering how much they meditate already ...

Yes obviously there is no such thing as qi because the military doesn't move cars with their minds.

Originally Posted by Original Poster

Yes obviously there is no such thing as qi because the military doesn't move cars with their minds.

Well, have you decided yet what makes telekinesis unimpressive or are you just not going to give any examples or reasons for such a belief.

Originally Posted by Araishu

If telekinesis even had a slight chance of existing, it would have been discovered and harnessed by corporations already. The military would use it for new types of weaponry, it would be used in factories to increase productivity and would pretty much be part of our daily lives. Not to mention the fact that some people would have discovered it on their own and proven their powers in a public place. Don't believe everything you read.

Well if we are still saying that telekinesis and Chi are the same, then it has. Chi masters are master level martial artists who use Chi energy as opposed to brute strength in there fighting. In my opinion this counts as using it in the military. BUT this fighting is useless against guns so is now outdated. People still practice it as an art to this day. The corporate choose not to involve themselves in things that not everybody believes exist. The same way lucid dreaming isn't corporately mainstream, because not everybody thinks it is normal.

the point of chi isnt to move things with your mind, it is to use your chi to give you the power to move it with your entire body instead of just your arms. And the video i posted had little to do with my "im pretty sure science supports it". I was saying I thought it was proven already, then posting a cool video. Sorry if I made it seem related.

This monk supposedly harnesses Chi to create a force around his gut and head protecting him from this drill bit. Still not proof but cool. Shaolin Monk harnesses Qi to drill his head? - YouTube

Telekinesis is totally real, just look at this video

Originally Posted by Pakman43

This monk supposedly harnesses Chi to create a force around his gut and head protecting him from this drill bit. Still not proof but cool. Shaolin Monk harnesses Qi to drill his head? - YouTube

Indeed, this is a very strange video. The idea of the existence of Chi is a very strange one to me but even if I actually had the power and was able to use it in this way, I would not test it with a drill to my throat >.<
However, I consider telekinesis to be in an entirely different class as you are not physically using any parts of your body to make contact with the object that you are moving. Perhaps it has the same root as the power of Chi, but I personally see it as something different.

Originally Posted by Original Poster

Telekinesis is totally real, just look at this video

You are a very interesting person.

Well, it's possible to learn to use it in a violent way and to kill, but it's a way shorter if they train the soldiers how to use their weapons, thus some close combat techniques, and if they would still like to train them, it takes really really really really really really really really long years to achieve it, (if they ever can master it) and if they'll somehow still have the will to do harm to anyone after dozens of meditations.

Edit: Stopping a bullet with the energy... well, I think not even the biggest masters could do that, surely not from an assault rifle.

Originally Posted by Araishu

Indeed, this is a very strange video. The idea of the existence of Chi is a very strange one to me but even if I actually had the power and was able to use it in this way, I would not test it with a drill to my throat >.<
However, I consider telekinesis to be in an entirely different class as you are not physically using any parts of your body to make contact with the object that you are moving. Perhaps it has the same root as the power of Chi, but I personally see it as something different.

Chi doesn't necessarily involve touching the object either. I once read a book on chi written by a chinese tai chi master and it is said that one of the first master of chi deflected arrows without touching them.
Personally I think that f it were true it would be using the exact same type of force.

Here's some more undeniable evidence. If telekinesis isn't real, then how did dude get the ball to move without touching it? RIDDLE ME THAT

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

Chi doesn't necessarily involve touching the object either. I once read a book on chi written by a chinese tai chi master and it is said that one of the first master of chi deflected arrows without touching them.
Personally I think that f it were true it would be using the exact same type of force.

This is the kind of thing that I really do want to believe in but as a man of logic and reasoning, I cannot possibly say that I believe in such things without conclusive evidence or conducting some sort of study on it on my own to verify the existence of Chi.

Originally Posted by Araishu

This is the kind of thing that I really do want to believe in but as a man of logic and reasoning, I cannot possibly say that I believe in such things without conclusive evidence or conducting some sort of study on it on my own to verify the existence of Chi.

Didn't you see the video I just posted. There's no other possible explanation other than qi.

Originally Posted by 123north123

Holding it makes it way easier. I have to work myself up to that.

Meditation, it seems, is one of the greatest factors in getting telekinesis/psychokinesis/psionics to work. Last night, I meditated for thirty minutes and then proceeded to spin the psi wheel 50+ times--counter-clockwise.

if you are holding it then it could be idiomoter response so there is no point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LHlO2Qtxb8

Originally Posted by 006

Edit: Stopping a bullet with the energy... well, I think not even the biggest masters could do that, surely not from an assault rifle.

This doesn't actually pertain to the topic, but you realize that the effective killing power of a weapon system like a gun or a rifle depends almost solely on the round used, right? The gun itself merely governs accuracy, the ease of aiming, and the ability to repeatedly fire again and again. Yes, these things affect the ability to reliably kill something or someone, but the point is that the same round fired from different weapon systems isn't going to magically be more dangerous or have different ballistics unless the round itself is in some way physically altered during its exit from the barrel. The fact that the round is fired from an assault rifle does not make it any more deadly or harder for a psychic or what have you to deflect or stop than a round fired from a hand gun, hunting rifle, or shotgun.

Originally Posted by snoop

This doesn't actually pertain to the topic, but you realize that the effective killing power of a weapon system like a gun or a rifle depends almost solely on the round used, right? The gun itself merely governs accuracy, the ease of aiming, and the ability to repeatedly fire again and again. Yes, these things affect the ability to reliably kill something or someone, but the point is that the same round fired from different weapon systems isn't going to magically be more dangerous or have different ballistics unless the round itself is in some way physically altered during its exit from the barrel. The fact that the round is fired from an assault rifle does not make it any more deadly or harder for a psychic or what have you to deflect or stop than a round fired from a hand gun, hunting rifle, or shotgun.

i think you are wrong

Didn't you see the video I just posted. There's no other possible explanation other than qi.

And yet somehow I bet if we were to post ufo videos, you would be the first to say they were fake. Special effects boyo, simple as that. I don't deny the existence of such things, but basing your argument on videos in the age of special effects seems a bit optimistic. Vampires.....

Nina kulagina is a true telekinetic. Get that white boy to do it under controlled circumstances and not on youtube and ill be the first to admit I was wrong about him.

No, special effects is a myth.