Thread: Xanous' Workbook

Oh I see what you're saying. Yeah, FAs can be tricky little devils. That's good that you still forced yourself out of your recliner to break out of SP. Alot of people would be too worried that they're real body would move, so they might not even bother trying. Interesting that after you do it, you fall back into SP.. are you able to stand up out of the recliner a bit more slowly? Or do you have to do it forcefully like that to break out of the SP?

edit: You know something that helps me alot I just realized, than whenever I get up in the morning, I believe that I'm in a lucid dream for a while. I think this has helped me to conquer those FAs and turn them into LDs. It's like, if an FA is going to trick me, I'll just trick it right back

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

Oh I see what you're saying. Yeah, FAs can be tricky little devils. That's good that you still forced yourself out of your recliner to break out of SP. Alot of people would be too worried that they're real body would move, so they might not even bother trying. Interesting that after you do it, you fall back into SP.. are you able to stand up out of the recliner a bit more slowly? Or do you have to do it forcefully like that to break out of the SP?

Well I've found that when I go slow I feel like I only part of me is able to move and I just end up face first on the floor. I have also tried sliding out of my body from the top of my head but those just turn into OBE type dreams and when I look at myself I slam back in. So this time I just spontaneously tried something different. It worked sorta. I am still not used to transitioning into the dream from SP. I've done it only a few times. Like the mirror TOTM dream.

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

edit: You know something that helps me alot I just realized, than whenever I get up in the morning, I believe that I'm in a lucid dream for a while. I think this has helped me to conquer those FAs and turn them into LDs. It's like, if an FA is going to trick me, I'll just trick it right back

That's a good idea! May be better than a quick RC. RC's have failed me before. I will try to make this habit. Thanks!

So the next time time I SP I will know to jump up and not be fooled by FA!

Success this morning. I failed WILD but had a great DILD and then DEILD. This time in SP my legs floated up and I just visualized my feet connecting to the floor. Once my feet were on the floor I was able to stand up. I don't know... maybe concentrating on putting my feet to the floor is all I need here. I forgot to RC but there was no FA anyway. Maybe because there was no momentary loss of awareness. I think talking about all this yesterday was a big help and made me really think about things. So thanks!

Same thing this morning. Except I never could make my self see!

I kept this religiously for about a week with great results last weekend. I have been tapering off too much the last few days and totally forgot the basics (RareColas post reminded me of that) I am going back to this starting now. If anyone sees anything I need to improve on here I would love the advice. Thanks!

Lucid Dreaming Routine:

1) Morning Wake Up RC to check FA. (I almost always forget until I've been up for a while)

2) During the day Practice RRC but not to the point of mental exhaustion. Quick hand or nose RC If I see anything that is odd or rememinds me of lucid dreaming.

3) Evening Waking Journal. Record highlights of the day. Find a few minutes to practice dream yoga meditation.

4)Sleep around 9PM. Think about MILD. Set intentions with visualizations and imagining going lucid, clear mind, watch and/or form HI. 10-15min.

5)Remeber: If in SP remain calm. Focus on putting feet on the floor. Check FA RC.
WBTB MILD 3:30AM to 4:00AM on weekdays. Skip WBTB if too tired. Else, repeat MILD from 4.
WBTB WILD 5:30AM to 6:00AM on weekends. Relax, Mantra on awareness, If too awake ditch mantra and do wordless mediation on awareness.
Adjust times if needed.

I need to find a way to remain calm during WILD. Maybe a relaxation technique.

I really like the goals and focus u put into it I need to get better at fa rc's

Thanks! I finally had a successful RC last night with the nose plug but my heavy breathing woke me up!

Nice goals, xanous

Well I haven't stuck to the routine 100%. I made a few various. But I did take the suggestions from the podcast to heart and made a real breakthrough. My LD wasn't super long but it was satisfying. I was able to accomplish a few goals. I was able to keep myself calm through a type of quick meditation inside the dream. I don't know if anyone else does this but it was very effective. Dream Yoga helped my sensory focus as well. I forgot about TOTM though. I don't think I could do surgery on my brother anyway. I guess I should have tried for advanced. Oh well, I'm all into this competition with Matte87 anyway. I can't wait for next month.

Well here is my DJ Entry give it a read when you get a chance.

Awesome dream Xanous! That was quite an epic journey of stabilization and control. I love how Sivason's dream yoga is working for members. It seems like everytime you remembered to meditate in the LD, it helped you.

I know what you mean about sometimes it's easy and sometimes it's not. For me, once I get to the vibrations stage, I'm home free as far as a WILD or DEILD. But I'm not always graced with these vibrations, so then I just have to keep my fingers crossed for a DILD. It's interesting though, reading about your transitions. It's cool seeing similarities in these stages between myself and other members.

And I promise I'll come up with something less morbid for next month's TOTMs But then October.. that's another story muahahaaaa.

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

Awesome dream Xanous! That was quite an epic journey of stabilization and control. I love how Sivason's dream yoga is working for members. It seems like everytime you remembered to meditate in the LD, it helped you.

I know what you mean about sometimes it's easy and sometimes it's not. For me, once I get to the vibrations stage, I'm home free as far as a WILD or DEILD. But I'm not always graced with these vibrations, so then I just have to keep my fingers crossed for a DILD. It's interesting though, reading about your transitions. It's cool seeing similarities in these stages between myself and other members.

And I promise I'll come up with something less morbid for next month's TOTMs But then October.. that's another story muahahaaaa.

Thanks! I know... I'm trying not to use the vibrations so much as a necessary thing. I have had a few times where I watched HI form a dream non lucid. I am trying to figure out why sometimes I do everything right but I won't hit SP and other times it's almost immediate. Maybe when I don't SP I can use HI to get there? I usually just pass out if nothing happens within a few seconds though.

And thanks about the TOTM lol. I don't why I can't make myself want to do surgery. I watch some pretty gory stuff and think some crazy crap up. Maybe it just seem too real. Maybe by October I can get over it. I will try.

Oh and I began to use the meditation thing during the day for practice. I have found that it can also help me calm down when I get negative emotions like frustration or anger. I am going to continue to develop that.

Very nice work man about what's ur average dream recall a night?

Originally Posted by Wurlman

Very nice work man about what's ur average dream recall a night?

Thanks. I haven't thought much about it. I guess it depends on if I am trying to DEILD. The most I have ever had was 11. But usually its around 4.

I just thought I'd mention that the SP transition was much smoother last night. My dream body was able to get out of bed just as if I was awake. I realized that I have the power to visualise any environment I desire. next time I will pre determine where I want to be and see how that goes. My house is geting boring.

Lmao that's bad add if ur starting to get bored u have must b kicking some ass! Hows the newborn?

Originally Posted by Wurlman

Lmao that's bad add if ur starting to get bored u have must b kicking some ass! Hows the newborn?

I'm getting more frequent. maybe 2 - 4 a week. mostly DEILD. so naturally I SP out of bed.

No baby yet. Still in labor. were just chillin in the birthing room.

Originally Posted by Xanous

I kept this religiously for about a week with great results last weekend. I have been tapering off too much the last few days and totally forgot the basics (RareColas post reminded me of that) I am going back to this starting now. If anyone sees anything I need to improve on here I would love the advice. Thanks!

Lucid Dreaming Routine:

1) Morning Wake Up RC to check FA. (I almost always forget until I've been up for a while)

2) During the day Practice RRC but not to the point of mental exhaustion. Quick hand or nose RC If I see anything that is odd or rememinds me of lucid dreaming.

3) Evening Waking Journal. Record highlights of the day. Find a few minutes to practice dream yoga meditation.

4)Sleep around 9PM. Think about MILD. Set intentions with visualizations and imagining going lucid, clear mind, watch and/or form HI. 10-15min.

5)Remeber: If in SP remain calm. Focus on putting feet on the floor. Check FA RC.
WBTB MILD 3:30AM to 4:00AM on weekdays. Skip WBTB if too tired. Else, repeat MILD from 4.
WBTB WILD 5:30AM to 6:00AM on weekends. Relax, Mantra on awareness, If too awake ditch mantra and do wordless mediation on awareness.
Adjust times if needed.

I need to find a way to remain calm during WILD. Maybe a relaxation technique.

Ah I need to get to some sort of routine. The baby is sleeping longer and my recall is getting better but I haven't got lucid since the TOTM. I'm feeling stress because I should have had another one since. It's been a full week. I guess I should just relax and hit at if from another angle. I have been so focused on DEILD and WILD but I just haven't been able to pull it off. I'll have to find out what I'm doing wrong. I guess until then I will focus more on DILDo and MILD. But DEILD is my favorite.

I just feel like I hit a roadblock. If anyone has suggestions that would be great. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Xanous

DILDo

this is wrong on so many levels,on a more serius note,if you feel that you are in a middle of a dry spell,this tech helped many,maybe it will help you

Dry Spell Killer: The Actor's Technique
For anyone experiencing a dry spell or having trouble achieving lucidity for the first time you can try this simple "mind over matter" technique. I use this to help break out of dry spells and I generally suggest it to others who are experiencing dry spells. I think it will also help first timers achieve lucidity. Basically here it is...Upon laying down to sleep you need to alter your state of mind. Basically, act as if you are an expert/experienced lucid dreamer and you know 100% that you will have a lucid dream. Don't only say/think to yourself that you will have a lucid dream, but truly 100% believe that you will achieve your goal easily. The best way to describe this "state of mind alteration" is to compare it to acting. Many actors and actresses "get into character" for their particular roles. They will spend several days (or even longer depending on the actor/actress) acting as if they are a completely different person to better prepare and play their role. Basically, you are trying to "get into the character" of an experienced/expert lucid dreamer. You could even go as far as getting into the character of "The Best Lucid Dreamer Ever." The idea is to fall asleep knowing and expecting yourself to become lucid, because you have done it millions of times before and it is easy for you. If you can do it correctly, and truly convince yourself that you will achieve lucidity, than it will greatly raise your chances of success. During a dry spell, I do this for as many nights as I need to break it. I usually am able to overcome my dry spell the very first night trying. Make sure that if you do not succeed, that you stay "in-character" and tell yourself/convice yourself that last night was a fluke and there is no way you won't become lucid the next night. You would be surprised how well this simple method can work. All it takes is a bit of "acting" !

this is KingYoshi's tech not mine,but it worked for me so....

Originally Posted by areyoume

this is wrong on so many levels,on a more serius note,if you feel that you are in a middle of a dry spell,this tech helped many,maybe it will help you

Someone else started that and it stuck. Can't help it LOL.

That seems like a smart method. I think I'll give that a try.

Also I was thinking about how I DEILD. I realized that I just wait for SP and when it doesn't come straight away I give up. Maybe I will focus on visualization next time and not so much on the SP as SP is only noise anyway.

Originally Posted by Xanous

Ah I need to get to some sort of routine. The baby is sleeping longer and my recall is getting better but I haven't got lucid since the TOTM. I'm feeling stress because I should have had another one since. It's been a full week. I guess I should just relax and hit at if from another angle. I have been so focused on DEILD and WILD but I just haven't been able to pull it off. I'll have to find out what I'm doing wrong. I guess until then I will focus more on DILDo and MILD. But DEILD is my favorite.

I just feel like I hit a roadblock. If anyone has suggestions that would be great. Thanks.

Everyone hits ruts. But the avid lucid dreamers always come out of it, true story. I don't see anything wrong with hitting at it from another angle. Unless you were a super green newbie, I say there's nothing wrong with taking focus off a technique that's not getting you results right now, and focusing on another one. If for no other reason than taking pressure off yourself in regards to one particular area is often the best medicine.

I will focus more on DILDo

LOL?! Was that a typo, or did you make an enemy of someone on staff and receive a naughty edit

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

Everyone hits ruts. But the avid lucid dreamers always come out of it, true story. I don't see anything wrong with hitting at it from another angle. Unless you were a super green newbie, I say there's nothing wrong with taking focus off a technique that's not getting you results right now, and focusing on another one. If for no other reason than taking pressure off yourself in regards to one particular area is often the best medicine.

Thanks OB I was going to PM you. So what's normal then? I guess its normal to fluctuate? I don't think anyone LD's EVERY night but that's the goal right?

I've thinking about it and I really got away from my routine. Then there's the many sleep interruptions at night because of the baby. I had lost almost all recall because of it but I'm getting it back now and putting more effort in my DJ. I don't know... I had that really successful TOTM and then nothing its annoying. . I think I had put a lot of pressure on myself and it was counterproductive.

I got back to my routine today and I feel more confident. So I'm just going to DILD it up and save the DEILD and WILDs for the weekends. Unless I just wake up and it just happens. It's not something I can force.

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

LOL?! Was that a typo, or did you make an enemy of someone on staff and receive a naughty edit

LOL no. I listened to those getlucid guys for like 2 days straight. They got to me. lol but they are soooo funny.


BTW areyoume I just couldn't do that Actor's Tech. It's just not for me. I'm not good at lying to myself. LOL

Originally Posted by Xanous

Thanks OB I was going to PM you. So what's normal then? I guess its normal to fluctuate? I don't think anyone LD's EVERY night but that's the goal right?

Definitely, and therein lies the contradiction. Even an olympic runner doesn't hit his top speed at every race, or every practice.. but it's always the goal to reach or surpass it. I don't mean to say it's ok if you don't always reach your goals, as long as this doesn't hold you back from trying again. I think it's important to keep that balance in mind at all times: remember that fluctuations are normal, and that it's normal for everyone to not succeed 100%.. but also remember to keep at it and never give up, surprises are around every corner. Literally actually haha!

That's good advice. Nope not going to give up.

I realized today what it was I was missing. I hadn't been working on my self-awareness as much. I knew there was something missing or doing wrong and I just couldn't put it to words so I rambled on hoping it would click. I reread Sageous' intro to his class and I realized it where he talks about the fundamentals of lucid dreaming as a 3 legged stool. The dreamstate, memory, self-awareness. I got so caught up in techniques that I forgot the fundamentals. So today instead of the tech I am going to continue developing my self awareness. I have also come up with some methods that might help it along as well. I guess lucid dreaming isn't always about getting lucid it's about self discovery and the higher self...It's a lifestyle and a journey.

Originally Posted by Xanous

I guess lucid dreaming isn't always about getting lucid it's about self discovery and the higher self...It's a lifestyle and a journey.

So incredibly well said.