So I guess I'll update. My caffeine results are still pretty good. Sunday night I was at my sister-in-laws but I still wanted to WBTB. I had green tea made up and discretely packed away. I felt odd meditating in their living room with people sleeping on the couch and I didn't want to disturbed my wife and kids, so I just chugged the tea and meditated myself to sleep. Failure. I was super tired and had little focus. BUT This morning I missed my WBTB alarm by an hour. So when I finally got up I didn't want to spend much time on WBTB. I had coffee prepared already so I just got up long enough to drink and pee and jump back into bed and do a little SSILD. The coffee was STRONG so I took 2MG melatonin and 200MG B6 for fun. It gave me a half DILD/DEILD CHAIN OBE but it was short. I got to test some new exit ideas but it was pretty bland other than that.

So what I found out- it seems that if I don't stay up awhile (30 Min is good) then I need stronger caffeine than green tea. If I do stay up and just meditate, then very little to none works. Maybe caffeine is just a WBTB cheat for me? All in all my success rate with caffeine is still near 100% but I still wouldn't say that I can LD at will (Don't get cocky, kid!) I may try caffeine pills if I can get the MG lower. It would be nice to know how much caffeine is the right amount.

And once more; I don't do it every night. I'm not saying anything is wrong with it but it is much better for my sleep patterns to rest on the caffeine 3 to 4 night out of the week. A longer WBTB with meditation does fine. In fact, Some nights I don't even care to LD.