Thread: MysticalDipshit's Workbook

Thanks! Im getting more and more into the routine of reading through goals at night. I haven't really done many RCs today which is annoying me. My only excuse is I was really busy because I had to go straight from school to a rehearsal for a gig, and the gig itself that I just got back from (Its 10.30 now). It has been really hectic but I need to get used to still RCing because it will help me do it in my dreams that are hectic.

I hope I have a LD tonight but I doubt I'll even get a good nights sleep because i had an injection today, my arm is bruised I feel ill. Not to mention I drank a litre of Lucozade (An energy drink) this evening -.-

Does anyone else have a dream where when you wake up, you really think that your dream was trying to tell you something important? I'm just wondering because it might just be me being weird XD

Originally Posted by MysticalDipshit

Does anyone else have a dream where when you wake up, you really think that your dream was trying to tell you something important? I'm just wondering because it might just be me being weird XD

All the time! Most people like to attach meanings and explanations to their dreams. But most of the time, they're just really random things constructed by your imagination. And if indeed they turn out to be true or reveal some insight, then it's most probably because it's already somewhere in your mind, and you just haven't made the connections yet


And yes maybe you're just weird, but who isn't, right?

So I've been thinking about some things lately, and I figured I'd write them here so I can remember them/find them if I forget, and anyone else can see too. I've been doing quite a bit of research on persistent realms/dream worlds, and it would be so cool if I could do this. My only problem is it requires being able to LD more frequently as well as having more control. I'll probably talk more about this later (As in a few months or how ever long it takes.)

Another thing I have been thinking about it my dream guide, and dream characters in general. I read somewhere that sometimes your DG can appear in a dream, but you never realize that it was them until they appear later and tell you that you have met before or whatever. Apparently, then can also help you out, but you don't actually realize they are your DG.

With this in mind, I went back to look at the first LD I have in my DJ. If anyone has read it, it's the one with the street of hell. Anyway, I didn't write much about the guy at the end, but it was a guy, with black hair, about 16 or 17 years old. He was making people jump into pool of lava in gaps in the road. When I told him I would call the police, he just laughed and told me that because I was in a dream, they couldn't do anything. The feelings I got off him where that he had a bit of a cruel side, but he was mostly impatient. I never really bothered to think more about him until I read the information above.

It got me thinking. Could he be my DG? Just waiting for me to figure it out? Like he was telling me that because this was a dream, the police wouldn't come, but also that I could do what I wanted, and he was impatient because I didn't understand that straight away. So I want to find this guy, and speak to him, even if he isn't my DG. I just want to know who he is. Another thing is, he wasn't stupid, he seemed very intelligent and realistic, which makes me want to know more about him.

Therefore, another one of my long term goals is to find this guy, and see who he is. I'm not exactly sure how to get to him though, because I have never seen him in real life, and I do not know his name. The only name that pops into mind is Daniel, but I don't know if this is because I always thought my DG would be called Daniel, and he looks like a Daniel. If I knew his name it might be easier, because I could shout it. If I knew him in real life, I might know where to find him too, but I don't.

So I have thought of a couple of ways I could do it, but any more would be appreciated. The first one was that he might be in a lot of dreams, close by, but I never realized, and all I have to do is look around the corner. I found this quite unlikely, but told myself to look out for him in the future anyway. Another idea was creating fake dream memories such as "He wanted me to meet him here today at 9am so we could talk." and finding myself walking to meet him. My last idea was, if he was cruel or whatever, find something small going on in the surrounding area, and knowing he is the cause of it, and finding him there or something like that.

I'm not sure how well these will work but I feel it is important for some reason, and it will be a fun journey to find him, and learn about who he is.

Those are great thoughts. I particularly like the "create a fake meeting plan" to trick your subconscious into meeting with him. Go try them all! One other way is to simply call out for him. I've been doing this every now and then when I'm lucid enough to actually remember. Even though you don't know his name, you can yell out something like "DG WHERE ARE YOU!" or you could just yell Daniel, and assume it's his name. Maybe he'll even come out and tell you you got his name wrong x)

Good luck!

Well I did have some luck last night and I had a pretty long lucid. I couldn't quite find him though. Its hard to explain without writing the whole thing so I will write it in my DJ

EDIT: My entry is up now

Also can someone tell me what kind of technique it was that caused me to get lucid? Details are in me DJ entry. I'm just not sure exactly

EDIT: Nevermind, I asked paige in DV chat

So I'm trying to meet Daniel (Let's just call him that for now), and I decided to fully plan it out so that I wouldn't forget what I was doing half way through and mess it up.

The Daniel Plan

• Teleport to a busy city because I remeber I am supposed to meet Daniel
• Behind me there will be a coffee shop or something similar
• I will walk in and see him sat at a table in the corner
• I will walk over, sit down oppisite him and ask him the following questions
• "What is your name?"
• "Are you my dream guide?"
• "If not, who are you?"
• "Why did you appear?"
• "Will I see you again?"
• "Do you have magic powers/what kind of things can you do?"
• "In this LD, can we fly together/can you teach me?"

So my preparation may seem a bit too detailed, but I'd rather be prepared. And I swear, if he tells me I can't fly with him, I'll kick his ass. XD

Okay, so no LD last night, but I did have an awesomely vivid dream that was like OMG HOLY MOTHER OF I:KJBLSJ<JNBAjahKHSCGvkha. Yeah, it was that good. I had a bit of a retard DC at the start and there wasn't much that actually happened. But WOW the graphics were unbelievably EPIC. Like ultra HD. I don't even know how to describe it really XD

Anyway, DJ entry: 04.03.13 - Massive Zombie Horde - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Congrats on the lucid!

I know that summoning a DC can sometimes be hard to get just right, but I think you're doing right by preparing yourself with that list. I can't tell you how many tasks of the month I was able to get just by the sheer remembering to do it in the first place. And I achieved that by making myself remember a "To-do List" basically, and making myself go over the list before bed every night, and at every WBTB. My lists are usually shorter than yours, but if you can remember all that in your next LD, then that's awesome!

Good luck and hope you meet Daniel soon

Yeah I know its quite long, but I have a pretty good memory and hopefully with more experience at remembering to do stuff, I can make my lists shorter as well.

Also I have been meaning to ask a few things so I'll just write them now. I noticed that I never really use reality checks or stabilize much in my LDs. I know I've only had a handful, so there isn't much to go on, but I generally become lucid straight away and my LDs don't fall apart from not stabilizing. But I was thinking, does me not doing this make me have less control? (I know you learn control over time but thought Id ask) They seem like they could be related but Im not entirely sure.

Im not sure because of the same reason that I don't need RCs to become lucid. I'll do a RC just to check maybe, but it won't actually work and I'll just won't care because I know Im dreaming anyway. This may not make sense but if someone could just give me their thoughts on something like this Id appreciate it a lot.

(Sorry for any bad grammar, I am typing on my phone and my arm keeps going numb XD)

I find that RCs end up not being that useful once you get to know "that feeling" when you're dreaming, which it looks like you already do! So congrats on that. There's nothing wrong with practicing reality checks, especially if it helps you be more aware in waking life. But I don't believe that we NEED to rely on them to get lucid, or to have better control. That usually just comes with practice. So it's great that your lucids are already stable from the get go.

And it's just as well. This way you can focus more of your lucid time on your list of goals, rather than struggling with stability.

Alright, thanks for clearing that up for me!

I had no recall at all last night, but I'm sure that's just from lack of sleep. I fell asleep between 1.30-2am, and my Mum woke me up at 5.30am because she was getting my brother ready because he's in hospital today. I couldn't fall back to sleep either, but I wont worry about losing my dream recall because I'm sure it's only because I didn't sleep long enough to have longer REM cycles.

I can only remember another fragment of a dream today (I could remember it when I woke up, but I decided to go back to sleep instead of writing it down). It was something boring like my mum discussing Spanish work with me or something like that. So I'm not too disappointed.

Originally Posted by MysticalDipshit

I can only remember another fragment of a dream today (I could remember it when I woke up, but I decided to go back to sleep instead of writing it down). It was something boring like my mum discussing Spanish work with me or something like that. So I'm not too disappointed.

Ahhh I also have a lot of those lazy moments, and it results in dreams that fade. To keep my spirits up, i like to tell myself that if I can't remember the dream, it probably wasn't awesome enough to be remembered anyway haha. At least that train of thought can keep you from fretting over not recalling the dreams.

That's generally how I think anyway, but thanks

I remembered another dream I had on one of the nights where I said I had no recall but I'm not sure what night it was. Also, I woke up an hour late this morning so I didn't get much of a chance to try and remember any dreams because I was straight up and rushing around. Another weird thing that happened today, was that my friend asked me if I had spoken to my parents about something, and I had to think for a while. I distinctly remember crying in my bedroom (It was a rather sad topic), but I couldn't remember the actual conversation, so I figured it was probably a FA. Maybe my subconscious was just doing that so it felt like I'd already got it over and done with so I wouldn't have to worry about it any more. But what was weird was how I didn't remember it until my friend said something.

I also want to note, that I keep forgetting to do self-hypnosis before I go to bed, but that's usually because I'm too tired. So I'm setting myself the target of using SH every night for a week.

Another question: Does anyone know, how many things can you suggest to your subconscious in one 'session'? Because I want to use it to wake myself up more often after dreams, keep still with my eyes closed, and notice weird things in my dream to get lucid. But if I can only do 1, then I need to pick which to start off with. Also, with the question, I mean how many things can you use that will work in one go? Obviously you could suggest a thousand things if you wanted to, but it most likely wouldn't work.

I used SH last night, no lucid but I did have a nightmare style dream. It was very random but dark at the same time. I tried to WILD a couple of times during the night, and at one point my body felt REALLY weird, almost like it had no weight (This wasn't during the WILD attempt), and I checked to be if it was a FA but it wasn't.

EDIT: This might have been because last night me and my brother had a couple of friends over, and we were in our home cinema (So it was really dark and really loud), and we were playing horror games on the xbox. Mainly condemned 2 and a few others. I was so scared XD

Entry: http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/myst...-vinnie-44388/

DEILD chaining is probably the best way to achieve LDs very often, right? So that's why I've decided that I'm going to change my approach from DILD, to WILD for a few weeks (As DEILD is technically part of WILD). I will write my progress here, so I can see any improvements. As the Easter holidays are approaching, now seems like a good time to learn WILD, because I can use the time my parents wake up as a WBTB period and then WILD, and it generally gives me more time to work with.

Learning WILD seems like the best way to learn DEILD chaining too, which will become helpful in the future because that is the direction I want to be heading in. I am going to keep up with SH as well to become lucid (DILD) which would be useful anyway.

Hey,

Well, you got alot of stuff there, so I'll start off my saying that when you want to suggest things to your subconscious, I believe less is more. Simply because you're more likely to absorb 2 or 3 really important things, as opposed to an onslaught of suggestions.

Also, changing your technique or method alot probably won't get you the same results as when you focus all your energy on one method for a while. DEILD chaining is an awesome approach to lucidity, but it does involve that you wake up then go back to sleep, aka WBTB (which in your first post you said you don't think you can do that for some reason, a sleep schedule issue was it?) Anyway, if you can set your alarm for 4-6 hours after you fall asleep, then stay awake for a bit before going back to sleep, that will not only set you up really well for DEILDs, but will increase your DILD frequency as well.

So I highly recommend that if you want to do DEILDs, that you stick with it for a good while. Give it a good and fair chance to work for you. It's really worth it. I WBTB every single morning, and it has increased the frequency of DILDs as well as WILDs for me. I can't wait to see your progress on this!

Regarding what I said in my first post, that easy because I had trouble sleeping for a long time. I feel like it would be easier now, however I will start with practicing on the weekend to see how well I get back to sleep, before moving onto weekdays when I have school. That's why I said that it was good that I have a 2 week Easter break coming up because then I will have more time to practice.

Hi MysticalD! I haven't posted in your workbook in forever. Good luck on the DEILDs! The good thing about WILDs is that even if you happen to fail, you still have a pretty good chance to get a DILD!

Thanks Xanous!

Well, I haven't posted in a few days and I have been slacking on LD stuff. I've been really busy though, I've been in and out of hospital and everything is a bit hectic right now. I'm not giving up though. I had a FA yesterday, but I forgot as soon as I realized. Another good this is that I had a dream this morning which was so fun. I'd love to do it in real life. I'll probably upload it soon because thankfully I wrote it down when I woke up. I'll get doing that now then