Thread: oneiroer's workbook

About the dream - I think it's up to you to tell. From experience - there are moments where something happens in a dream and usually the same day something happens during the day. The events may be very similar or one may notice some sort of connection. When this happens, the recognition is as if something clicks, and you see the connection. Does that make sense?

I absolutely love the poem above! Thanks for sharing it!

Yes it does make sense thank you. And thank you very much for liking my poem, was worried no one would like it... Going to try wake back to bed tonight and tomorrow and possibly wilds. I think I will meditate with some relaxing music or something on youtube tonight. NyxCC and or CanisLucidus, do you guys meditate at all? Just wondering and how you guys meditate.

I've been asleep for far too long
Waking and dreaming life

Very nice, oneiroer, thanks for sharing that poem! The first two lines in particular resonate with me.

That's very much how I felt when I first discovered lucid dreaming (and that I could even reliably recall my dreams at all!) I was stunned on how much I'd missed out on.

But fortunately for all of us, it's never too late to start.

NyxCC and or CanisLucidus, do you guys meditate at all? Just wondering and how you guys meditate.

I don't set aside particular time to meditate. The closest I get is when I'm falling asleep at night or during WBTB. I empty my mind and just enjoy the silence of the night and the pleasant anticipation of the dream adventures to come.

It feels like a sort of quasi-meditation to me, and I really enjoy it.

Nice CanisLucidus. Thanks for liking my poem too! Well, I did a wake back to bed last night. I went to bed at 11 something or 12. Set my alarm for 4 am. Not sure if I lucid dreamed but I remember pretty vividly I had a dream about my boss. She told me she loves me (I guess it was kinda a fantasy dream... ) and she told me something like she would clean for me... I didn't get a chance to talk but it was as if my boss was really there...

NyxCC and or CanisLucidus, do you guys meditate at all? Just wondering and how you guys meditate.

For my meditation sessions, I usually sit on the couch, although if I happen to be outside I might do an open air open eyed meditation. So, while sitting with eyes closed or open, I mostly focus on the feeling of relaxation of my body, which works really nice to take care of any bothersome thoughts. I might randomly choose any other focus points, like chakras or breath or just try to feel the contours of my body. Also, I like watching the darkness behind my eyelids or the lights that appear after a while. I could try to play a "what's on my mind" type of game - quiet the mind for a few seconds and see which thought comes first. Then reset to blank state and wait again, it's fun way to explore one's mind.

never mind sorry...

^^ You forgot to remove the pic.

I like the idea of combining the different symbols together. Actually, I have a suggestion for you - why don't you try and dream of the pattern for the dream catcher and see what your subconscious mind comes up with. It can be both in an ld or a nld.

Good idea NyxCC will try

Kinda strange i guess but i think i have been dreaming about a group of indian people like from india or something... i have a vague recollection of dreams involving people from another culture anyway the last 2 nights...

^^ sounds interesting , any idea what the plot was?

Not too much we were somewhere I didn't recognize... (I think I was wanting a sandwich or something to eat though lol... )If I remember something like that again I will try to remember more details.

Hey guys, I uploaded a track to my www.soundcloud.com/Oneiroer site. I played it on my usb midi keyboard. Do you guys think I should use this as the basic structure of my song or should I get better at piano first? The song I would like you guys to check out I called Symphonic 2.

Thanks for sharing, oneiroer! It's a really beautiful song! Very dreamy and it takes me away when I listen to it.

You're welcome NyxCC! Very glad you like it! I might add electric guitar to it when I get proper equipment to go with my guitar.

Been doing reality checks throughout the day today when my app tells me to... Also been practicing some awareness like where I was 5 minutes ago now and where I will be in 5 minutes. One time I was looking in a mirror when my alarm went off and reality checked. That would be cool if I see a mirror when I am dreaming.

Reread "At the same time wonder -- really wonder -- what effect you are having on the space and people around you, and what effect the space and people around you are having on you." from lesson three. I didn't read the second part where it says really wonder what effect people are having on me. Just doing the first part made me depressed cause sometimes I feel like I am not having an effect on people. Will definitely do both parts of awareness tomorrow. Was trying to be more mindful like doing reality checks and telling myself in a dream this would be possible. Was that good on my part to be more mindful or is there something else I should be doing to be more mindful?

I did it this morning. I was dreaming i was somewhere i didnt recognize as usual. There was a plot of some sort going on but then all of a sudden i was lucid and drawing on paper on a painting in an art gallery i assume.... my drawing wasnt coming out that great as i didnt know what to draw but man did it really feel like i was drawing!

Originally Posted by oneiroer

I did it this morning. I was dreaming i was somewhere i didnt recognize as usual. There was a plot of some sort going on but then all of a sudden i was lucid and drawing on paper on a painting in an art gallery i assume.... my drawing wasnt coming out that great as i didnt know what to draw but man did it really feel like i was drawing!

Great job oneiroer!! Congratulations on the lucid!

I'm glad that you got to have a little fun creating some lucid art work.

Speaking of art work, great job with the song! It's really nice and would make an excellent dream soundtrack.

Thank you CanisLucidus much apreciated. I remembered a dream this morning where i realized i was too late for work. Hopefully i can keep this up!

Really working n awareness today. I have the day off work and as I'm writing this I'm at a Chinese resturaunt. I'm listening to everything actually tasted my food I don't usually. This awareness stuff is cool!

Originally Posted by oneiroer

Reread "At the same time wonder -- really wonder -- what effect you are having on the space and people around you, and what effect the space and people around you are having on you." from lesson three. I didn't read the second part where it says really wonder what effect people are having on me. Just doing the first part made me depressed cause sometimes I feel like I am not having an effect on people. Will definitely do both parts of awareness tomorrow. Was trying to be more mindful like doing reality checks and telling myself in a dream this would be possible. Was that good on my part to be more mindful or is there something else I should be doing to be more mindful?

Hey oneiroer! Your mindfulness practices are great! I especially liked the last one in the Chinese restaurant. Food is one of the good places to start with ADA like exercises. I think I saw a good post by Royaltramp on that actually, let me see if I can find it.

http://www.dreamviews.com/induction-...ml#post2171744

If you should feel anything while having the "how do I affect others" thoughts, it should be endless amazement. You can think about it from a chemical perspective or even from a cosmic perspective. No matter what you do you are always affecting the world around you, even if you don't do anything. On the very basic level, your cells are in constant communication not just with each other but with those around you. When you interact with others all sorts of chemicals are released and received by cells. Imagine all that! By the way, if you haven't seen the movie "what the bleep do we know", I recommend watching it. It can convey much more clearly what I am trying to explain.

Thank you NyxCC! I'll check it out.

On a side note I think I found one thing I would like to do in a lucid dream. Orchestrate some music. Preferably have a band play in a concert and direct them. Perhaps even play an instrument or two with the band. Still also want to work on lucid art work and hopefully be able to draw it out in waking reality.

Had a short lucid last night. I was feeling powerful in the dream and I or someone was out to get someone. I felt like an observer and saw someone going somewhere with like a knife or something. The cool part is this dream was at about 12 am just a couple of hours after I went to sleep! but the atmosphere was like that of a nightmare so I awoke...

Congratulations on the lucid, oneiroer! Great job on getting that LD so near the onset of sleep, too! I'm always hoping to have one of those to start off my night, but it's been a while for me now!

And your LD goal (conduct / compose original music with a full band or orchestra) sounds great!

Thank you CanisLucidus!