Thread: Vaiaphraim's workbook

Wow... I never knew that there were multiple methods to WBTB. I'll go to bed at the same time as previously, and set my timer to a few minutes before I awoke back then. Since you said, it needs to be done quickly - does that mean I need to get up, stay awake / alert for a short (10 mins? 20 mins?) time? After that I'd head right back immediately after that to hopefully dive into the next REM phase. I'm just re-iterating to make sure I understood what you told me - it's easier to WILD, after staying awake for a longer time (because I get full awareness), while a "quick" version doesn't give me the time to shake off the grogginess properly, so I really need to get myself together to focus.

One final question - I read a lot about these "auto-snooze" things, as in waking up, without having to turn the phone/alarm off manually. Moving invalidates the Dream Exit method and all.... so... is there any application which offers such functionality which you could recommend? I don't have any special tools, but I'm sure I could write the needed code for my smartphone, if nobody did it already.

Originally Posted by Vaiaphraim

Wow... I never knew that there were multiple methods to WBTB. I'll go to bed at the same time as previously, and set my timer to a few minutes before I awoke back then. Since you said, it needs to be done quickly - does that mean I need to get up, stay awake / alert for a short (10 mins? 20 mins?) time? After that I'd head right back immediately after that to hopefully dive into the next REM phase.

I suggest that you experiment with the amount of time spent with wbtb - see for yourself what is the ideal spot or range of time that boosts your awareness enough, while allowing you to fall asleep within a reasonable time frame after that. Everyone is different, so playing around is the best way to find out.

I'm just re-iterating to make sure I understood what you told me - it's easier to WILD, after staying awake for a longer time (because I get full awareness), while a "quick" version doesn't give me the time to shake off the grogginess properly, so I really need to get myself together to focus.

Right. This is the case for most people, however, there are some that are able to pull off a wild with only minimal time spent awake. These are usually the more experienced lders.

One final question - I read a lot about these "auto-snooze" things, as in waking up, without having to turn the phone/alarm off manually. Moving invalidates the Dream Exit method and all.... so... is there any application which offers such functionality which you could recommend? I don't have any special tools, but I'm sure I could write the needed code for my smartphone, if nobody did it already.

I don't have the best app, but it works for this purpose. I think it's called "Alarm clock". Pretty simple alarm clock app but it has the option of auto snooze after a few seconds, so you don't need to move. It can then turn on again in say, fifteen mins for another five ten seconds and so on. Others have also used alarms with self recorded audio as well. Instead of an alarm they hear some sort of dreaming cue or mantra. My app doesn't have this, but I'm sure there are other apps that allow for you to record your own audio/voice and use it.