Troubles because of 'snapping out'

**kislany** · 10-03-2011 07:54 AM

I've only started my LD practice a few days ago so I know I have a long way to go, but I'll get there with persistence.

Right now (beyond the usual problems that all newbies face with 'not getting there'), I'm having a problem that I couldn't find it mentioned here (maybe I just overlooked it) and wondering how common this is - and what to do about it.

Basically I relax my body, get the tingling and numbing feeling, and then I suddenly see somebody either talking to me or see people talking to each other. Maybe I just dozed off, I don't know. This however lasts just a second because I immediately snap out of it. I can't even hear a full sentence of what the person is telling me.

No matter what I try I can't get around this snapping out of a scene, and I feel this is my biggest stumbling block right now. As soon as I'm in a scene, I'm snapping out of it right away. This drives me nuts.

Any ideas as to what is going on?

Thanks!
kislany

**lawilahd** · 10-03-2011 08:03 AM

So, your saying that the people you see/hear are not actually there right? Just making sure, anyway, that sounds like HH to me, I would get to exactly this point when I used to try WILD'ing a lot. This phase of hearing people talk and almost seeing things was immediately followed by a loud ringing noise in my ears, then SP, and finally a full LD if i was able to stay calm enough to transition. My advice would be to simply remain calm, it seems like you are getting way too excited when you hear these voices, but remember its all normal as your conscious mind is about to fall asleep, if you are able to remain calm but at the same time slightly alert, you will soon transition into a LD, good luck!!

**kislany** · 10-03-2011 08:11 AM

Well, it's like one moment I'm the bed relaxing and the other moment I'm somewhere smack right in the middle of a conversation (either somebody talking with me or I see two people in a discussion). Then I'm jolted awake and that so it's so fast, that I can't see the surroundings or anything, I have no clue where it is or who the people are...it's really frustrating.

**Arch** · 10-03-2011 05:42 PM

It sounds to me like sudden awareness, you realise that the dream is forming and then become too excited and 'jolt' out.
I advise remaining more passive until the dream has formed more, that way you can get more of a foot in the dream.
Other things you could try would be manipulating the forming dream, so try and change it to your will which may make it less surprising. Most wilders use visulisation to enter the dream, you could try that.

Good luck

**Puffin** · 10-03-2011 06:18 PM

Maybe a hypagogic jerk? It usually involves seeing a very faded scene when you're almost unconscious, then suddenly it changes and in a split second you may feel like you're falling or have tripped. Your real body makes a sudden "jerk", or jolt, as soon as you hit the ground. It happens to me every once in a while; I usually get the feeling that I've tripped and fallen forward down the stairs.

**kislany** · 10-03-2011 06:32 PM

Hm, not sure what it is but it really makes me crazy. And I thought swallowing would be bad, but I'm learning to get over it. But this, I just don't know how to tackle it. I can't not get excited because I don't really am. I simply lay there relaxing, then I'm in a scene with somebody talking to me (in each of these scenes somebody is talking), and then I'm suddenly pulled out of it before I even hear the rest of the sentence. I simply don't have the time to get excited or anything...

Let's see, maybe it's something that I'll grow out of as I'm practicing more lucid dreaming.