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      Back to the journey!

      I started my trail of lucid dreaming on november with no success, demotivated, sad which lead me to quit trying. After some months, now that school is close to its end, i feel ready to start again! I initially wanted to do WILD and thats my goal still but do you guys think it's possible for me to have my first lucid dream with wild? I am asking this after hearing that wild is hard, which i sincerely do not believe and i think i am correct. Now that i start again i will actually follow the rules and not try to wild immediatly after sleep
      Also, do you guys think that i can have my first wild with daynaps or is it "harder"?
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      Welcome to Dreamviews!

      It's important to start off the right way. Makes no sense not to follow tutorials (at least till you have a few LDs), because then if it doesn't work, you don't know what really is at fault.

      Here is a great one to start you off Induction Methods and Techniques
      and here is a very detailed one, that will explain everything and I urge you to read it WILD

      And is WILD harder than DILD? Let me borrow a quote from Sageous, that should be required reading for everybody. Entire post here http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...ml#post1929151

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      I think the real difference between DILD and WILD are the people who choose them as shortcuts to LD adventures. The "DILD" folks seem to be people who start out with a real respect for self-awareness, and for the difficulty inherent in carrying it into a dream. So they prepare first: they learn to RC, to look for the odd, maybe practice ADA (not a big fan of that, BTW) and really train their memory because they know that becoming lucid is not easy. Well those people are probably very rare visitors to DV, or show up long after
      they've mastered their craft. Not much need to teach them DILD! Then there are the WILD bunch:

      The other group of newbies are folks who heard about LD'ing, think it's cool, and want to do it NOW. So they browse the tutorials, and see that DILD is cluttered with waking-life activities, reliance on awareness, and seems require much work. Then they check out WILD, and find that with WILD all you have to do is lie down, hold still, wait, and Bam!, you're in!

      So the problem I think isn't with the teaching system, it's with the nature of the students themselves. They want their LD's now, fundamentals be damned, and WILD seems on paper to be just the right technique. And, of course, succeeding at it turns out to be incredibly hard, if not impossible, because they're not interested in the mental prep. Later, when they finally give up, or their drive and expectation finally deliver them an accidental DILD (more likely a false lucid, but I won't got there today), they "discover" this technique and find it much "easier," because at least with DILD you can bumble into a LD sometimes, and without the wait or much ballyhooed noise that accompanies WILD, no less.
      Naps are great for all lucid dreams. But that's just a tiny detail, that will not matter so much, if you know the fundamentals of lucid dreaming.

      So please read up and ask any questions you may have. Happy dreams.

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      Thanks for repling mister gab! I am not on any of the categories described on the quote though, I am the kind of person that heard about LDing and just did masive research for it all over the web and after mastering the theory, not moving forward to the actual thing.I didn't choose DILD because of the time and dedication that it requires since I have a very tight program with school but now that summer draws near I may start to write to my dream journal again. Also, thanks for answering my question about naps because I feel better about lucid dreaming with daynaps since the transition won't be as creepy as at night in my opinion.

      PS: I have a problem with connecting to the chat... I think I changed my username in IRC and can't remember it but (this one to be specific. Old account : MariosDrougas) I still couldn't connect to chat even with a brand new account (this one to be specific. Old account : MariosDrougas).

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      *I'm PMing you about your questions.

      And I didn't mean to imply that you are either of the groups. It's simply to show which technique is "easier" or why could WILD be perceived as "hard to do".

      The point is, that both require same mental preparation, without which there will be no success, no matter how easy or hard something looks like. Same awareness practice, RCs, Dream Journaling, mental state, intent and expectation, memory training,...

      As people gain experience, they will eventually find out, that technique is not that important. It's all in the head. But when someone is starting, technique and accompanying practices and training are important.

      Thats why DILD is recommended to start with, because that's when people learn about all the mental prep. But if you learn the mental prep, you could jump straight into WILD. Although you may be missing out on having experiencing how a LD feels like. But everybody is different, and what doesn't work for some, may work for you. Good luck and happy dreams.

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      Welcome to DV EssenseOfLight! I hope to see you around!

      Lucid dreams make your dreams come true!!

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      Thanks for all your replies gab and hello sparkley

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